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what is rotk?
-Become who you were born to be-
Return of the King; final episode to Lord of the Rings
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OK. please answer my q's in the other threads...i just wanna know..:) whos ur fave character in lotR?
-Become who you were born to be-
Other thread?? Wat other thread?
There aint no other thread on LOTR....
My fav character is Sam. For obvious reasons... most of which ive mentioned above^^
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my 'how old' thread...sam is ok ...he is kinda only frodos bodyguard though...lol
-Become who you were born to be-
Which he needs for obvious reasons... coz he's a wimp.
Frodo doesnt hav the same fearless look in his eyes like Sam does.
Paladin quoted one of my fav quotes from that movie on the other page of this thread.
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I think you should tell us how old you are as then I'd feel better about talkin on this forum.
Also you should try and do things that keeps your sisters happy and so you should tell them things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you like you don't have to tell everyone and you can just tell me. Cos Even MuslimSisLilSis is no longer interseted but I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know how to PM?????????????????
P.S. Its a good deed to take away burdens and answer questions of people.
"Seek and you shall find."
uh oh... :?
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Hey I'm not causing no funny business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Id just like to know how old he is. Nothing wrong with that is there????????????? lilmuslimsis asked it anyway and nobody said anything.
Anyway getting to the point of the thread my favourite character is definetly one of the hobbits. Probably Frodo.
"Seek and you shall find."
wuss
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hey, someone had to be the ring-bearer, and its not as if that was the easiest job...
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Guest you're not from [i]Oldham[/i] by any chance are you?
lol course i am, how could u forget! :shock:
true, damn the orcs, Balin was a cool character. :evil:
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whats that supposed to mean :o
Seraph is right about Sam, Frodo wouldnt have got so far without him
but sometimes Sam was a scaredy cat
and i loved LOTR too....but you guys got issues
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
yeh right - u just watched the movies, u havent read the books have u? :roll:
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Salaam *DUST*,
Goodness, I think I've found someone who knows more about the LOTR stories than I do (hurrah!
).
Actually, that’s a very interesting point you’ve raised.
From what I understand (and I’ll try to keep it brief), 'The Hobbit' was first written by Tolkien as a stand alone novel with no intention of writing a follow-up novel. In fact he wrote the first sentence of:
Whilst marking examination papers when he was a professor at Oxford University...However, 'The Hobbit' was such a success that the publishers asked Tolkien to write another novel, to which he agreed.
Tolkien pondered about what he could possibly write about? He thought long and hard and finally decided to write a story based upon the ring that Bilbo had found, and so 'The Lord of The Rings' was born. It then took Tolkien 16 years to write the book, most of which was written in the attic of his home in Oxford…
Whilst we’re vaguely on the subject of Oxford, I’ll bore you with a bit of pointless trivia:
When I was 19/20 years old I worked in Oxford for a period of six months (as part of my degree placement) and I regularly walked past a public house (pub) called [i]'The Eagle and Child'[/i] (located right next to the city centre).
Now I didn't take much notice of it, in fact I hated it because on the pub's wooden signboard was the image of a huge eagle clutching a baby in its talons - Not the most pleasant image to start the day with.
However, one day one of my colleagues explained to me that 'The Eagle and Child' pub was where J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis regularly met up to discuss their stories and plots.
After that I was always filled with wonder whenever I walked past it; for the same street that I walked down and the things that I saw would have been similar to what Tolkien experienced. I thought "What could inspire a genius, like Tolkien, to write what he did?" and the best that I could come up with was that the pub signboard must have been the inspiration for Gwaihir and his clan of great eagles.
(Pssst…It’s safe now, the trivia session is over
)
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
Wow!
You are an incredibly interesting person...
Where did you say you were from?!
wa'alaikum salaam. lol, no, u know way more than me on the topic! its been ages since i read the books. i havent touched the Hobbit since my first reading when i was 10 years old! and just to prove this, i was gonna say 'wow, i never knew that!' about the interesting info u provided above...
BUT i knew that^!
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May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
Salaam *DUST*,
I first visited Oxford when I was 8 years old (it was part of a school trip), but we only visited Christ Church Cathedral - No Tolkien stops for us along the way...
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
Salaam,
Yes, it is good to help relieve the burdens of the others...
If it helps, I'll try and e-mail the relevant detail to you.
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
lol what part of Oxford is this bar? I'm probably going there for Law School next year and i'd love to check this place out!
CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien are two of my favorite authors ever! Right up there with Patrick O'Brien
That's great news, perhaps we could meet up!
I don't live too far from Oxford and one of my brother may be starting University there in September...By that I mean Oxford Brookes University and not [i]the[/i] Oxford University :oops: .
Give me a mail, closer to the time, and I'll show you round!
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
That would be splendid! Don't really know that many people in the UK (aside from yall) and i've never actually lived there; though ive visited many times.
I'm probably attending Queens College - i've never heard of the Brookes school, I take it that's not part of the Oxford University system?
Perhaps you could do a tour of the Isles. It could be like a relay, a different forum member could look after you as you travel through the country. However, I'm not sure how that would help your studies, just a thought though...
Queens College has a good reputation - but then again I suppose all the Oxford Colleges do...
Oxford Brookes is a seperate University,...[size=9](how can I make it not sound like a rubbish University...)[/size]...of a.....erm.....less prestigious standing in the academic spectrum...
Hence why my brother is going there
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
lol yes that might be the best way to go - everybody in this forum has officially been volunteered for tourguide duty!
I was impressed by a graduate of the Queen's College, an international lawyer at my father's lawfirm. I looked into the school and continued to be impressed so bumped it up my list for top choices, and now it looks like i'll probably be going.
It's been a bear of a time working this out with my fiancee though, she desperately wants to go to Columbia Med School in the middle of NYC, and neither of us is interested in spending another several years apart - especially after getting married.
Not sure how that will work out...
lol it sounds like Brookes is like the City College of New York, good academics and a good education - just doesn't have the reputation of the bigger schools.
It's all well though - especially in law, but in most things - your degree doesn't account for much 10 years of work experience down the line.
I'm going to be real popular when the rest of them read that in the morning... :?
It sounds like you know where you're going in life - which is the way it should be...But your married situation does sound a little awkward...
I suppose you'll both be learning one of the first joys of marriage pretty soon, namely compromise
Perhaps we should continue this conversation on the 'boys board' - that way we won't ruin *DUST*'s thread with our ramblings. What do you think?
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
Salaam,
Getting back to the topic of the thread.....
Oh dear, Frodo doesn’t appear to be very popular here does he? Especially amongst those who have only seen the movies.
Well, we all take different things away from the books we read, the people we meet and the lives we live…
Some people prefer hard qualities in people; strength, power, determination etc. and others prefer softer qualities; compassion, mercy, gentleness…
Between Sam and Frodo if physical courage is prized over spiritual courage then Sam may appear more courageous…
However Sam’s defining attribute isn't his courage, it's his loyalty to Frodo. It is from this loyalty that Sam’s courage really stems from…
Frodo’s focus is more on the internal struggle which requires spiritual courage; do not underestimate the burden of evil that he wore around his neck. Remember, no else had the spiritual courage to undertake the task; not even Gandalf and Lady Galadriel - two of the most powerful characters in the book),
Yet this internal struggle takes its toll on people…
A tired body can be healed through food and rest, but a tired spirit…That is a different matter altogether…
And the end of the story is very telling in this regard:
Sam recovers from the ordeal and goes on to marry his sweetheart, becomes mayor and pretty much achieves all that he wants to live a happy and contented life.
Whereas Frodo never recovers and slips quietly away into the west, never to be seen again…
In fact, I think I was on the subject of courage and heroes when I was ending my last post… I said something like:
"Frodo is a a hero but of a completely different type... A hero who doesn’t expect any glory or song to be written about him. A hero who suffers and does not give in or complain about his burden, because he believes what he is doing is right..."
(If I could digress away from LOTR) This got me thinking of what a hero is? What makes a true hero.....in our modern world.....and how twisted this notion is becoming.....
For example I see plenty of kids, where I live, who want to be gangsters. You ask them why, and hey answer along the lines of,
"Because gangsters have the money, the bling, the girls, the fast cars, everyone's afraid of them and they can have anything they want!"
Gangsters are what the kids aspire to be. These gangsters are heroes in the eyes of the kids...
However when you try to explain to the same kids:
"Do want to know who the real heroes are? Your fathers, who day in days out get up at 5am in the morning to do backbreaking work at the local factory. Submitting their bodies to painful labour, working through late shifts in the night and early shifts in the bitter morning, work that they have to undertake to care for you; while you soundly sleep, secure, in warm beds.
You have a hero in your own house and you don't even know it!?
The real heroes are like those fathers who toil everyday, tearing their bodies apart, not giving up, not surrendering to the hardness of the task. Who do all this, simply for your love and your well being.
That takes real courage and true strength...
Not pointing a replica gun in someone's faces whilst snatching their purse, that's not courage!"
They may listen attentively, but they still find it difficult to understand that courage does not always equate to violence…
Indeed, courage manifests itself in many ways, violence is one of them but at the other extreme you have mercy…
(Oh it’s late and my fingers are having trouble typing what my brain is saying. I do apologise if what I’m writing is not making sense – my brain is drifting all over the place)
Yes mercy is very important, in fact I’ll hopefully aim to make my next post (I’ll aim to log in at the weekend sometime and post it then) solely on the aspect of Mercy in ‘The Lord of the Rings’ – perhaps you already know what I’ll write...
Until then,
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
its just so amazing the way the hobbit links in with lotR...my fave character in the hobbit either has to be gollum , bilbo or gandalf..out of the dwraves i liked balin...he took great interest in bilbo...i love lotR too much to explain man...
NOTE TO DUST: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CALL THIS THREAD 'LOTR RATHER THAN HARRY POTTERS NAME IN IT!!!!!!!!
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Hey no half measures here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We want this turned into be a seperate LOTR thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Seek and you shall find."
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