Submitted by Seraphim on 30 August, 2008 - 22:22 #541
love to live but living to die wrote:
thank u thank u
now, what shall i get me drivin instructor?? something for his training car could be ideal... hmmm any ideas??
hmm
Im assuming the lessons werent free. So how about nothing?
He did his job, got paid and you passed.
Everyone goes home happy.
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Back in BLACK
Submitted by Seraphim on 30 August, 2008 - 22:34 #542
hmmm a tendancy to over-compensate. Interesting.
If, as you say, you did give him headaches im pretty sure he's well happy to be shot of you and doesnt really need the reminder. In which case nothing.
On the other hand, everyone likes to be thanked for something they do. Even when its part of their job. In which case a box of Roses (the chocolates... not the flower) would be appropriate. Not too pricy but something he will enjoy.
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Back in BLACK
Submitted by Seraphim on 30 August, 2008 - 22:38 #543
love to live but living to die wrote:
i gave him M&S chocs when i passed me theory ... ... so something other than choc, might get him an air freshner that you plug in a car... or i might not... I CAN'T decide!
In such a situation i just lye down until the feeling to do anything passes.
He was typing in the dark. Mum was trying to sleep and he didnt want to disturb her. The laptop wasnt an option as my sister was on it. Is that a satisfactory enough explanation for you?!
Oh before i forget congrats on passing your driving Long to live.....
Why dont you get him a mug which says best driving instructor or something (thats if they sell one). Winter is coming so will be handy.
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No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Submitted by Ya'qub on 31 August, 2008 - 13:42 #555
Naz wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
Naz* wrote:
Which boxes should be ticked in diskchk?
No swearing on this website, please.
He was typing in the dark. Mum was trying to sleep and he didnt want to disturb her. The laptop wasnt an option as my sister was on it. Is that a satisfactory enough explanation for you?!
He was typing in the dark. Mum was trying to sleep and he didnt want to disturb her. The laptop wasnt an option as my sister was on it. Is that a satisfactory enough explanation for you?!
I was joking... but, whatever.
The ppl that have posted on this forum for a long time know what you meant by yor post, he didnt realise what you meant by it so he took it to heart.
You need to be careful how you phrase things when new ppl come onto the forum. No hard feelings.
You're forgetting the most important question - did it work?
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Funzo on 1 September, 2008 - 05:55 #559
Did i ever tell you guys that i met shaykh hamzah yusuf himself when i went umrah?
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Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 September, 2008 - 13:49 #560
A common man marvels at uncommon things; a wise man marvels at the commonplace.
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 September, 2008 - 15:18 #561
love to live but living to die wrote:
and 'good luck' is to do with being optimistic/ positive thinking
NO, 'good luck' is about attributing factors that are outside of Allah's (swt) control. Which is Shirk.
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Naz on 1 September, 2008 - 15:32 #562
Do you have to be old to have a stroke?
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No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 September, 2008 - 15:32 #563
love to live but living to die wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
love to live but living to die wrote:
and 'good luck' is to do with being optimistic/ positive thinking
NO, 'good luck' is about attributing factors that are outside of Allah's (swt) control. Which is Shirk.
no it's not cos it aint makin sense to me!
'factors that are outside of Allah's control' >> such as? and what if you believe that all factors are initiated by Allah, where does that lead us?
'luck' means random chance. Muslims don't believe things occur by 'chance', they occur because of Allah's (swt) will.
by saying 'good luck' you are saying (whether you intend it or not) 'I hope things happen by chance in a way that is good for you.'
This would mean that Allah (swt) is not responsible for everything that happens to you.
Which mean would He is not in control of anything.
Which would mean He has 'partners'.
Which is Shirk.
I am not being an extremist, I can't see how anyone wouldn't realise this.
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Seraphim on 1 September, 2008 - 15:39 #564
Naz wrote:
Do you have to be old to have a stroke?
Not necessarily.
Can be brought on by a number of factors.
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Back in BLACK
Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 September, 2008 - 15:42 #565
love to live but living to die wrote:
but every thing has two or more sides to it, its pros and cons, and you never know which way it may swing...
that's true...BUT it doesn't swing one way because of a random chance, it swings because Allah (swt) wills it to swing that direction.
I understand the 'hoping for the best', of course this is what we all do.
I just have a problem with people saying 'good luck', 'wish me luck' or 'that was lucky'. What's wrong with saying 'May Allah (swt) make it easy for you', 'please make du'aa for me' or 'alhamdulillah'.
Surely we should say those phrases instead, because that way we're actually getting a reward too!
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Courage on 1 September, 2008 - 16:16 #566
Yaqub we've had this conersation before. Luck can be from Allah, it's just outside our control!
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Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 September, 2008 - 16:25 #567
Courage wrote:
Luck can be from Allah
That sentence doesn't make sense.
Part of the definition of the word 'luck' means that is by chance. i.e not in ANYONE's control, including Allah (swt).
In the sentence above, you are changing the meaning of the word 'luck'.
You are free to do that, but it leads to confusion when talking to other English people, so surely it would be better to not use the word 'luck' at all and use a more Islamically-acceptable word, no?
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Courage on 2 September, 2008 - 10:34 #568
All I'll say is figure of speech.
Or do you want to make a new thread called: "Good luck- HARAAAAAAAAMMMMM!"
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Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Submitted by Ya'qub on 2 September, 2008 - 11:58 #569
Courage wrote:
All I'll say is figure of speech.
If something happened which made you relieved, would you say 'thank Christ'?
That is a figure of speech too, but it is another example of shirk.
Every morning all our body parts get worried that our mouth will say something that will lead us into the hellfire. The Qur'an says that there are some things which we think are small but will be big on the Day of Judgement.
You could assume that it is nothing, but personally I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.
It's not like you lose anything be not saying 'good luck' or whatever, there are plenty of other phrases that don't run the same risk.
I don't see why your defending the use of a phrase/concept that is clearly against the fundamental principals of Islam. Is it because you have used the phrase before and thus are defensive about it?
It would be better to swallow your pride (difficult to do while fasting!) and just try to stop using it in the future.
Think of it like you always bring a friend called 'Justin Case' and he can remind you to always be prepared and take precaution.
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Courage on 2 September, 2008 - 12:08 #570
Except when I say good luck, my nia is asking Allah, I don't believe luck is out of Allah's hands just ours. I always say Inshallah to Muslims. But if it worries you, Master Yaqub, I'm not in love with that phrase. Let's say, may the force be with you. Or do you want to complain about that? It's from the Jedi Religion.
hmm
Im assuming the lessons werent free. So how about nothing?
He did his job, got paid and you passed.
Everyone goes home happy.
Back in BLACK
hmmm a tendancy to over-compensate. Interesting.
If, as you say, you did give him headaches im pretty sure he's well happy to be shot of you and doesnt really need the reminder. In which case nothing.
On the other hand, everyone likes to be thanked for something they do. Even when its part of their job. In which case a box of Roses (the chocolates... not the flower) would be appropriate. Not too pricy but something he will enjoy.
Back in BLACK
In such a situation i just lye down until the feeling to do anything passes.
Back in BLACK
if u giv an air freshner, he might think ur hinting!
'Allah gives and forgives
Man gets and forgets' Baba Ali
http://halfDate.com
Or you could get him a pair of furry dices to hang on his mirror.
Back in BLACK
Ugh! don't do that! they're sooo lame.
'Allah gives and forgives
Man gets and forgets' Baba Ali
http://halfDate.com
thats kinda the point...
Back in BLACK
wot, thers actually a point in puttin those things in ur car?!
'Allah gives and forgives
Man gets and forgets' Baba Ali
http://halfDate.com
You dont drive do you?
Back in BLACK
that was meant for me! :evil:
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
they're for 'good luck'. dice = lucky.
If you give him the dice you have to also give him a book about Tawhid so his intention remains pure!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
We dont live in the U.S so need for the dice jeez next your going to think of hydrolichs and a mullet.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
He was typing in the dark. Mum was trying to sleep and he didnt want to disturb her. The laptop wasnt an option as my sister was on it. Is that a satisfactory enough explanation for you?!
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Oh before i forget congrats on passing your driving Long to live.....
Why dont you get him a mug which says best driving instructor or something (thats if they sell one). Winter is coming so will be handy.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
I was joking... but, whatever.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
The ppl that have posted on this forum for a long time know what you meant by yor post, he didnt realise what you meant by it so he took it to heart.
You need to be careful how you phrase things when new ppl come onto the forum. No hard feelings.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
You're forgetting the most important question - did it work?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
^^^^ nope
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Did i ever tell you guys that i met shaykh hamzah yusuf himself when i went umrah?
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
A common man marvels at uncommon things; a wise man marvels at the commonplace.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
NO, 'good luck' is about attributing factors that are outside of Allah's (swt) control. Which is Shirk.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Do you have to be old to have a stroke?
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
'luck' means random chance. Muslims don't believe things occur by 'chance', they occur because of Allah's (swt) will.
by saying 'good luck' you are saying (whether you intend it or not) 'I hope things happen by chance in a way that is good for you.'
This would mean that Allah (swt) is not responsible for everything that happens to you.
Which mean would He is not in control of anything.
Which would mean He has 'partners'.
Which is Shirk.
I am not being an extremist, I can't see how anyone wouldn't realise this.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Not necessarily.
Can be brought on by a number of factors.
Back in BLACK
that's true...BUT it doesn't swing one way because of a random chance, it swings because Allah (swt) wills it to swing that direction.
I understand the 'hoping for the best', of course this is what we all do.
I just have a problem with people saying 'good luck', 'wish me luck' or 'that was lucky'. What's wrong with saying 'May Allah (swt) make it easy for you', 'please make du'aa for me' or 'alhamdulillah'.
Surely we should say those phrases instead, because that way we're actually getting a reward too!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Yaqub we've had this conersation before. Luck can be from Allah, it's just outside our control!
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
That sentence doesn't make sense.
Part of the definition of the word 'luck' means that is by chance. i.e not in ANYONE's control, including Allah (swt).
In the sentence above, you are changing the meaning of the word 'luck'.
You are free to do that, but it leads to confusion when talking to other English people, so surely it would be better to not use the word 'luck' at all and use a more Islamically-acceptable word, no?
Don't just do something! Stand there.
All I'll say is figure of speech.
Or do you want to make a new thread called: "Good luck- HARAAAAAAAAMMMMM!"
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
If something happened which made you relieved, would you say 'thank Christ'?
That is a figure of speech too, but it is another example of shirk.
Every morning all our body parts get worried that our mouth will say something that will lead us into the hellfire. The Qur'an says that there are some things which we think are small but will be big on the Day of Judgement.
You could assume that it is nothing, but personally I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.
It's not like you lose anything be not saying 'good luck' or whatever, there are plenty of other phrases that don't run the same risk.
I don't see why your defending the use of a phrase/concept that is clearly against the fundamental principals of Islam. Is it because you have used the phrase before and thus are defensive about it?
It would be better to swallow your pride (difficult to do while fasting!) and just try to stop using it in the future.
Think of it like you always bring a friend called 'Justin Case' and he can remind you to always be prepared and take precaution.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Except when I say good luck, my nia is asking Allah, I don't believe luck is out of Allah's hands just ours. I always say Inshallah to Muslims. But if it worries you, Master Yaqub, I'm not in love with that phrase.
Let's say, may the force be with you.
Or do you want to complain about that? It's from the Jedi Religion.
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
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