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Well This is the new new No Topic Topic. πŸ˜›

For those who do not know, this place is to talk about nothing. Nada. Zilch. And everything else which according to you does not deserve it's own topic. (Or you could choose to make a blog post)

[url=/node/1781]The other one[/url] was getting a bit long... So we have a new start.

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Seraphim β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 22:22

[quote=love to live but living to die]thank u thank u

now, what shall i get me drivin instructor?? something for his training car could be ideal... hmmm any ideas??[/quote]

hmm

Im assuming the lessons werent free. So how about nothing?

He did his job, got paid and you passed.

Everyone goes home happy.

Seraphim β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 22:34

hmmm a tendancy to over-compensate. Interesting.

If, as you say, you did give him headaches im pretty sure he's well happy to be shot of you and doesnt really need the reminder. In which case nothing.

On the other hand, everyone likes to be thanked for something they do. Even when its part of their job. In which case a box of Roses (the chocolates... not the flower) would be appropriate. Not too pricy but something he will enjoy.

Seraphim β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 22:38

[quote=love to live but living to die]i gave him M&S chocs when i passed me theory ... πŸ˜ƒ ... so something other than choc, might get him an air freshner that you plug in a car... or i might not... I CAN'T decide! [/quote]

In such a situation i just lye down until the feeling to do anything passes.

Seraphim β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 22:44

[quote=love to live but living to die][quote=Young Anonymous Muslimah]if u giv an air freshner, he might think ur hinting![/quote]

exactly!

o hang on, new wind screen wippers! (i defo need to hint abt them!lol) naaaah..

i'll try and forget for tonight... and flow with the current if i have to![/quote]

Or you could get him a pair of furry dices to hang on his mirror.

Seraphim β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 22:47

[quote=Young Anonymous Muslimah]Ugh! don't do that! they're sooo lame.[/quote]

thats kinda the point...

Young Anonymou… β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 22:51

[quote=Seraphim][quote=Young Anonymous Muslimah]Ugh! don't do that! they're sooo lame.[/quote]

thats kinda the point...[/quote]

wot, thers actually a point in puttin those things in ur car?!

Seraphim β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 23:00

[quote=Young Anonymous Muslimah][quote=Seraphim][quote=Young Anonymous Muslimah]Ugh! don't do that! they're sooo lame.[/quote]

thats kinda the point...[/quote]

wot, thers actually a point in puttin those things in ur car?![/quote]

You dont drive do you?

Funzo β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 23:39

[quote=xSmurfy786x][quote=Anonymous11]oops sorry didnt kno u need invite now

here it is: 686bkb6q
hope u get it first lol

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lol, i took that one, thanks πŸ™‚ [/quote]
that was meant for me! :evil:

Ya'qub β€” Sat, 30 Aug 2008 - 23:46

[quote=love to live but living to die]Is there a point in furry dice things? [/quote]

they're for 'good luck'. dice = lucky.

If you give him the dice you have to also give him a book about Tawhid so his intention remains pure!

Funzo β€” Sun, 31 Aug 2008 - 00:01

We dont live in the U.S so need for the dice jeez next your going to think of hydrolichs and a mullet.

Naz β€” Sun, 31 Aug 2008 - 13:27

[quote=Ya'qub][quote=Naz*]Which boxes should be ticked in diskchk?[/quote]

No swearing on this website, please.[/quote]

He was typing in the dark. Mum was trying to sleep and he didnt want to disturb her. The laptop wasnt an option as my sister was on it. Is that a satisfactory enough explanation for you?!

Naz β€” Sun, 31 Aug 2008 - 13:30

Oh before i forget congrats on passing your driving Long to live.....

Why dont you get him a mug which says best driving instructor or something (thats if they sell one). Winter is coming so will be handy.

Ya'qub β€” Sun, 31 Aug 2008 - 13:42

[quote=Naz][quote=Ya'qub][quote=Naz*]Which boxes should be ticked in diskchk?[/quote]

No swearing on this website, please.[/quote]

He was typing in the dark. Mum was trying to sleep and he didnt want to disturb her. The laptop wasnt an option as my sister was on it. Is that a satisfactory enough explanation for you?!

[/quote]

I was joking... but, whatever.

Naz β€” Sun, 31 Aug 2008 - 14:07

[quote=Ya'qub][quote=Naz][quote=Ya'qub][quote=Naz*]Which boxes should be ticked in diskchk?[/quote]

No swearing on this website, please.[/quote]

He was typing in the dark. Mum was trying to sleep and he didnt want to disturb her. The laptop wasnt an option as my sister was on it. Is that a satisfactory enough explanation for you?!

[/quote]

I was joking... but, whatever.[/quote]

The ppl that have posted on this forum for a long time know what you meant by yor post, he didnt realise what you meant by it so he took it to heart.
You need to be careful how you phrase things when new ppl come onto the forum. No hard feelings.

Funzo β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 05:55

Did i ever tell you guys that i met shaykh hamzah yusuf himself when i went umrah?

Ya'qub β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 13:49

A common man marvels at uncommon things; a wise man marvels at the commonplace.

Ya'qub β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 15:18

[quote=love to live but living to die]and 'good luck' is to do with being optimistic/ positive thinking[/quote]

NO, 'good luck' is about attributing factors that are outside of Allah's (swt) control. Which is Shirk.

Ya'qub β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 15:32

[quote=love to live but living to die][quote=Ya'qub][quote=love to live but living to die]and 'good luck' is to do with being optimistic/ positive thinking[/quote]

NO, 'good luck' is about attributing factors that are outside of Allah's (swt) control. Which is Shirk.[/quote]

no it's not cos it aint makin sense to me!

'factors that are outside of Allah's control' >> such as? and what if you believe that all factors are initiated by Allah, where does that lead us?[/quote]

'luck' means random chance. Muslims don't believe things occur by 'chance', they occur because of Allah's (swt) will.

by saying 'good luck' you are saying (whether you intend it or not) 'I hope things happen by chance in a way that is good for you.'

This would mean that Allah (swt) is not responsible for everything that happens to you.

Which mean would He is not in control of anything.

Which would mean He has 'partners'.

Which is Shirk.

I am not being an extremist, I can't see how anyone wouldn't realise this.

Seraphim β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 15:39

[quote=Naz]Do you have to be old to have a stroke?[/quote]

Not necessarily.

Can be brought on by a number of factors.

Ya'qub β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 15:42

[quote=love to live but living to die]

but every thing has two or more sides to it, its pros and cons, and you never know which way it may swing... [/quote]

that's true...BUT it doesn't swing one way because of a random chance, it swings because Allah (swt) wills it to swing that direction.

I understand the 'hoping for the best', of course this is what we all do.

I just have a problem with people saying 'good luck', 'wish me luck' or 'that was lucky'. What's wrong with saying 'May Allah (swt) make it easy for you', 'please make du'aa for me' or 'alhamdulillah'.

Surely we should say those phrases instead, because that way we're actually getting a reward too!

Courage β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 16:16

Yaqub we've had this conersation before. Luck can be from Allah, it's just outside our control!

Ya'qub β€” Mon, 1 Sep 2008 - 16:25

[quote=Courage]Luck can be from Allah[/quote]

That sentence doesn't make sense.

Part of the definition of the word 'luck' means that is by chance. i.e not in ANYONE's control, including Allah (swt).

In the sentence above, you are changing the meaning of the word 'luck'.

You are free to do that, but it leads to confusion when talking to other English people, so surely it would be better to not use the word 'luck' at all and use a more Islamically-acceptable word, no?

Courage β€” Tue, 2 Sep 2008 - 10:34

All I'll say is figure of speech.
Or do you want to make a new thread called: "Good luck- HARAAAAAAAAMMMMM!"

Ya'qub β€” Tue, 2 Sep 2008 - 11:58

[quote=Courage]All I'll say is figure of speech.[/quote]

If something happened which made you relieved, would you say 'thank Christ'?

That is a figure of speech too, but it is another example of shirk.

Every morning all our body parts get worried that our mouth will say something that will lead us into the hellfire. The Qur'an says that there are some things which we think are small but will be big on the Day of Judgement.

You could assume that it is nothing, but personally I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.

It's not like you lose anything be not saying 'good luck' or whatever, there are plenty of other phrases that don't run the same risk.

I don't see why your defending the use of a phrase/concept that is clearly against the fundamental principals of Islam. Is it because you have used the phrase before and thus are defensive about it?

It would be better to swallow your pride (difficult to do while fasting!) and just try to stop using it in the future.

Think of it like you always bring a friend called 'Justin Case' and he can remind you to always be prepared and take precaution.

Courage β€” Tue, 2 Sep 2008 - 12:08

Except when I say good luck, my nia is asking Allah, I don't believe luck is out of Allah's hands just ours. I always say Inshallah to Muslims. But if it worries you, Master Yaqub, I'm not in love with that phrase.
Let's say, may the force be with you.
Or do you want to complain about that? It's from the Jedi Religion.