I acidentally posted in the wrong topic, so I will put it and it's response here:
"Admin" wrote:
The kid needed an outlet. You were it. Someone the kid trusted.
Think of it as a service allowing the kid to function. Maybe the kid could not handle the information overload. Kids are prone to thinking their parents are impervious machines who keep working. Knowing about their vulnerabilities could come as a shock to the system.
Learn how to fake paying attention.
'really?' 'hmmm....' 'are you sure?...' 'so what do you think?' 'no problem'
:twisted:
"MuslimSister" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:
The kid needed an outlet. You were it. Someone the kid trusted.
Think of it as a service allowing the kid to function. Maybe the kid could not handle the information overload. Kids are prone to thinking their parents are impervious machines who keep working. Knowing about their vulnerabilities could come as a shock to the system.
Learn how to fake paying attention.
'really?' 'hmmm....' 'are you sure?...' 'so what do you think?' 'no problem'
:twisted:
Is this a reply to my post in No Topic?
^^^ those are exactly the comments I made in response....her comments were really intresting, so I had to fake having no interest, just to shut her up.
"Admin" wrote:
Yes it should be in No Topic. :oops:
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by equanimity on 27 January, 2007 - 17:55 #935
"MuslimSister" wrote:
10/11 should act like 10/11 year olds.
They should know what every other 10/11 year old knows.
10/11 year olds should NOT know about the advice that a gynaecologist gave to her mum.
your be surprised how much kids pick up , there brains are like sponges they absorb all kinds of info , this is why kids should be censored and protected from seeing and knowing certain things
Submitted by MuslimBro on 28 January, 2007 - 02:58 #936
Does anyone have a wireless internet connection?
If so can you please go into detail on how it works and what you have to do to get it connected; I'm talking about these wireless modem/routers.
I want to get one and have read about it and boy is it confusing.
Your PC needs to be in range of a router, the closer the better. Buy a wireless card which you can very easily connect to the computer, or if you're scared of that buy a USB wireless adapter. Then either let the Microsoft configuration utility find the connection (assuming you use Windows) or use the manufacturer's software. Either way it costs £20-30. You might already have a wireless card installed, check the device manager (right click My Computer and select Manage, look for Device Manager, expand Network Adapters and see if any of them are called Wireless something and if so make sure it is enabled). A wireless router isn't normally wireless, it transmits a cabled connection. If you have a router/modem with a mobile-phone style transmitter that's the one. Otherwise and assuming you don't intend to steal a neighbour's bandwidth it will set you back about £60-70 and again Windows or the manufacturer's software should make it easy. (If you want a lot of people to use the router locate it centrally or consider having additional points installed around the building.)
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[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
Submitted by Seraphim on 28 January, 2007 - 12:18 #938
"MuslimBro" wrote:
Does anyone have a wireless internet connection?
If so can you please go into detail on how it works and what you have to do to get it connected; I'm talking about these wireless modem/routers.
I want to get one and have read about it and boy is it confusing.
You will need a wireless router, and also a wireless adapter for your PC.
I myself am a firm believer in wires.
I have a wired mouse, wired keyboard. Wired internet.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by yashmaki on 28 January, 2007 - 20:57 #941
yeah i always use wireless
Submitted by Snoopz on 28 January, 2007 - 23:47 #942
we need wireless at the mo we hav wires from the attick all the way to the landing downstairz!! wires everywhere so annoying argh tripped over them a few times too.. its only a matter of tiem b4 sum1 gets seriously hurt |
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To be beautiful is to expect nothing in return.
Submitted by Snoopz on 28 January, 2007 - 23:52 #943
also when posting a reply on this thing, why does it say VIEW MORE EMOTIONS in HUGE capitals and all u get it 2 extra emotions i dint kno the neutral face thing existied.. surely instead of wasting the space saying VIEW MORE EMOTIONS u cud jus remove that and show the other two emotions..
i got bare excited clicked on it thining THERE WERE GNA BE ZILLIONs of emtions (ok thas exaggerating) but i expected more than 2 more emotions!! :roll:
got me excited for no reason
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To be beautiful is to expect nothing in return.
Submitted by MuslimBro on 29 January, 2007 - 01:56 #944
"Mr Honey's Day Out" wrote:
A wireless router isn't normally wireless, it transmits a cabled connection.
Huh? So why is it called wireless if it needs a cabled connection?
"Mr Honey's Day Out" wrote:
(If you want a lot of people to use the router locate it centrally or consider having additional points installed around the building.)
I only want it for my PC.
My mate steals his neighbours bandwidth as they have wireless. I'm assuming it's bcoz they haven't got a password activated.
Seraphim, thanks for the link. I understand it abit more.
"Admin" wrote:
You will need a wireless router, and also a wireless adapter for your PC.
I have a wired mouse, wired keyboard. Wired internet.
I also use wires for everything but recently decided that I needed to go wireless. I'm going to upgrade my internet speed to 8mb soon, and I also wanna play games (online) on my xbox 360 wirelessly.
"yashmaki" wrote:
yeah i always use wireless
Showoff
"yashmaki" wrote:
we need wireless at the mo we hav wires from the attick all the way to the landing downstairz!!
My room is on the 2nd floor and the bt line is on the 1st floor so I had to get a 15meter RJ11 wire and it doesn't look nice, I had to selotape the wire to the wall & ceiling.
Submitted by Seraphim on 29 January, 2007 - 09:59 #945
Wireless router goes onto your BT line and the adaptor goes onto your PC. You seem to have bought the USB adaptor... i would have gone with an internal one.
Funny thing is i was considering going wireless aswell... as it would solve alot of problems.... none of which are technical problems. My home network works fine... the only time we have a problem with it is when someone messes around with it. :roll: ruddy newbies
anyways let me know how it goes as im thinking of doing it too.
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Submitted by iRazor on 29 January, 2007 - 13:50 #946
"Admin" wrote:
I myself am a firm believer in wires.
I have a wired mouse, wired keyboard. Wired internet.
Shame you got a few screws loose then isnt it.
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_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________
Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight
A wireless router isn't normally wireless, it transmits a cabled connection.
Huh? So why is it called wireless if it needs a cabled connection?
"Mr Honey's Day Out" wrote:
(If you want a lot of people to use the router locate it centrally or consider having additional points installed around the building.)
I only want it for my PC.
My mate steals his neighbours bandwidth as they have wireless. I'm assuming it's bcoz they haven't got a password activated.
Sure, you're welcome. :roll:
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[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
Submitted by MuslimBro on 30 January, 2007 - 01:01 #948
"Seraphim" wrote:
Wireless router goes onto your BT line and the adaptor goes onto your PC. You seem to have bought the USB adaptor... i would have gone with an internal one.
lol....sorry I wasn't clear enough. I'm only interested in the items I have mentioned above and haven't actually bought them.
I don't do internal bcoz I did abit of DIY before and messed up my PC so had to spend £100 fixing it, that's why I do everything external now.
I was on the xbox website and came across this [url]http://www.xboxemea.com/playtogether/xboxlivemanual/[/url], it clearly explains it using pictures. First click on 'Start Question Flow', then 'Other DSL Broadband', then 'Yes' and lastly click on both 'Router' and 'Home Gateway' and compare the difference.
It says "A router is a separate device that connects to your broadband modem to allow you to share your connection with more than one device.
A home gateway is a broadband modem and router combined, commonly used with ADSL broadband connections."
So I will need to buy a Home Gateway, which is modem and router combined, whereas a router is just.....erm a router, and I don't want that bcoz I'll then need to use a separate modem.
So imagine if I get a Router:
BT Line -> Modem -> Router -> PC
But if I get a Home Gateway:
BT Line -> Home Gateway (Modem & Router combined) -> PC
Did you even look at the link i gave??? That would have broke it down even better for you (from the fantastic site 'How Things Work').
I dislike using Home Gateways as they can have compatibility issues with some broadband providers... which is why i just use the modem the provider gives and hook that up to a router... but to each his own.
"Angel" wrote:
I have all the equipment for wireless, have tired connecting few times, no luck so I have given up!
I need someone to do it for me
Angel sis... tell Seraph all about it... there there....
Tell us what you have and how you've set it up.... its usually the way you've set it up.
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Submitted by MuslimBro on 30 January, 2007 - 20:51 #951
"Seraphim" wrote:
Did you even look at the link i gave??? That would have broke it down even better for you (from the fantastic site 'How Things Work').
Yeah I did check the website out, I was looking at the xbox website bcoz as you already know I want to connect my console wirelessly along with my PC.
I noticed the link you gave explained WEP and WPA quite nicely, I was going through YouTube on wireless security issues and came across [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A88XB7_Jz7s][i]this[/i][/url] video which shows the flaws of WEP and how easy it is to hack into someone's wireless network (you HAVE to watch this video, you'll be shocked), but luckily the Gateway I'm getting has WPA & WPA2 which is way more secure than WEP.
"Seraphim" wrote:
I dislike using Home Gateways as they can have compatibility issues with some broadband providers... which is why i just use the modem the provider gives and hook that up to a router... but to each his own.
If I use a router and a modem, they'll take up more space, both have to be connected using an ethernet wire, and both will need their own power supplies, that's why I'm going for the Home Gateway. My current ISP requires us to buy the modem/router from them so I just bought my own. Hopefully my Wireless Gateway and USB adaptor should be here in a few days so I'll let you know if it worked. I really hope there isn't any compatibility issues with it as you have mentioned, or else I'm going to go mad!
I gave [url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LINKSYS-WIRELESS-BROADBAND-ROUTER-A-G-WRT55AG_W0QQ... link above and said I was interested in it, if I bought the router it wouldn't have worked bcoz I just got an email from a business which sells it. They said "This router is for to be used with NTL / Telewest and NOT ADSL". Luckily I didn't buy it.....phew for that.
Submitted by Imaani on 30 January, 2007 - 23:50 #952
Er people......what the hell is going on?
Has anyone seen DM Islam today? They shouldn't be allowed to show stuff like that.
Why do people do crazy stuff?
That kind of crap really freaks me out. I'm sorry if my comments offend anyone, but I find all that corporal punishment/ opus dei like stuff really disturbing.
Without even knowing anything about it, I think it's crazy and stupid. And I really, really hate it.
Submitted by *DUST* on 31 January, 2007 - 02:03 #953
"Imaani" wrote:
Er people......what the hell is going on?
Has anyone seen DM Islam today? They shouldn't be allowed to show stuff like that.
Why do people do crazy stuff?
That kind of crap really freaks me out. I'm sorry if my comments offend anyone, but I find all that corporal punishment/ opus dei like stuff really disturbing.
Without even knowing anything about it, I think it's crazy and stupid. And I really, really hate it.
huh?
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Seraphim on 31 January, 2007 - 11:35 #954
"Imaani" wrote:
Er people......what the hell is going on?
Has anyone seen DM Islam today? They shouldn't be allowed to show stuff like that.
Why do people do crazy stuff?
That kind of crap really freaks me out. I'm sorry if my comments offend anyone, but I find all that corporal punishment/ opus dei like stuff really disturbing.
Without even knowing anything about it, I think it's crazy and stupid. And I really, really hate it.
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it kinda helps if you tell us wat you say first...
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Submitted by Angel on 31 January, 2007 - 14:27 #955
"Seraphim" wrote:
Angel sis... tell Seraph all about it... there there....
Tell us what you have and how you've set it up.... its usually the way you've set it up.
I'm goin out now but just to let you know I will take you up on that offer, I am so not technical friendly so its gona be a mission hope you're ready.
Submitted by yashmaki on 31 January, 2007 - 21:18 #956
i have a wireless games controller now ...maybe i shudant have got one i'm getting addicted to playing games now i thght i shook that off when i was 18 lol.
Anyone got a nintendo Wi, is it worth buying one or was it more hype than worth the bother?
Submitted by Imaani on 31 January, 2007 - 21:38 #957
"Seraphim" wrote:
"Imaani" wrote:
Er people......what the hell is going on?
Has anyone seen DM Islam today? They shouldn't be allowed to show stuff like that.
Why do people do crazy stuff?
That kind of crap really freaks me out. I'm sorry if my comments offend anyone, but I find all that corporal punishment/ opus dei like stuff really disturbing.
Without even knowing anything about it, I think it's crazy and stupid. And I really, really hate it.
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it kinda helps if you tell us wat you say first...
I thought I did..........
corporal mortification, that's what.
In the streets of the UK. Broadcasted on DM Islam throughout the day. I don't understand why the police, who were present, didn't intervene??? Outside on the streets, loads of males, bare-chested punching themselves. I saw a young boy who looked about 11/12, punching himself as he walked past police officers, his chest bright red. Then, as they walked into a hall, the ropes, chains and knives came out. No police seemed to be inside the hall, but all of it being filmed and on TV on DM Islam, young males covered in blood. There was this one guy hitting himself on the head with a knife. Happening here in the UK. Televised. How and why is that possible?
Submitted by equanimity on 31 January, 2007 - 21:43 #958
because its there religous beliefs and i bet the police had a good laugh about it after
i dont understand it either it was sickening watching kids do it , cuz there doing it out of peer pressure , its child abuse/cruelty
if they really wanna hurt themselves they should play cricket with no pads on or football without the chinpads or boxing with no mouth gaurd and gloves at least they be having fun and hurting themselves
Submitted by yashmaki on 31 January, 2007 - 21:48 #959
oh your on about the shia practise of matam? i guess coz its a religious practise they allow it, can hardly arrest them for a crime they're consenting to do it themselves?
I dont know how true this is coz this site can be full of some good stuff but also a lot of hatred. But this article suggests the British endorsed the extreme forms of matam take a read u might not like the pics not for the faint hearted:
Submitted by yashmaki on 31 January, 2007 - 22:03 #960
according to the same site matam was a practise of the early christians and even pre dates it. I for one don't believe matam was a part of christianity, judaism or even Islam. I find it incredibly hard to understand and accept i just don't see the logic behind it no matter what religious arguments are put forward. No Merciful and Loving God would command us to beat ourselves in such a way.
the worst part is mothers and father doing inflicting it on their young babies and children :?
So your point is kids shouldn't know too much?
I remember being a kid and saying more then I had to.
10/11 should act like 10/11 year olds.
They should know what every other 10/11 year old knows.
10/11 year olds should NOT know about the advice that a gynaecologist gave to her mum.
I am surprised the girl even knew what that was.
I didn't know until yesterday what that meant, let alone pronounce it.
I acidentally posted in the wrong topic, so I will put it and it's response here:
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
your be surprised how much kids pick up , there brains are like sponges they absorb all kinds of info , this is why kids should be censored and protected from seeing and knowing certain things
Does anyone have a wireless internet connection?
If so can you please go into detail on how it works and what you have to do to get it connected; I'm talking about these wireless modem/routers.
I want to get one and have read about it and boy is it confusing.
Your PC needs to be in range of a router, the closer the better. Buy a wireless card which you can very easily connect to the computer, or if you're scared of that buy a USB wireless adapter. Then either let the Microsoft configuration utility find the connection (assuming you use Windows) or use the manufacturer's software. Either way it costs £20-30. You might already have a wireless card installed, check the device manager (right click My Computer and select Manage, look for Device Manager, expand Network Adapters and see if any of them are called Wireless something and if so make sure it is enabled). A wireless router isn't normally wireless, it transmits a cabled connection. If you have a router/modem with a mobile-phone style transmitter that's the one. Otherwise and assuming you don't intend to steal a neighbour's bandwidth it will set you back about £60-70 and again Windows or the manufacturer's software should make it easy. (If you want a lot of people to use the router locate it centrally or consider having additional points installed around the building.)
[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
Bro check [url=http://computer.howstuffworks.com/wireless-network.htm]this[/url] site out it pretty much explains everything about it...
Back in BLACK
[color=indigo][b]Yes and it's so annoying! [/b][/color]
You will need a wireless router, and also a wireless adapter for your PC.
I myself am a firm believer in wires.
I have a wired mouse, wired keyboard. Wired internet.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
yeah i always use wireless
we need wireless at the mo we hav wires from the attick all the way to the landing downstairz!! wires everywhere so annoying argh tripped over them a few times too.. its only a matter of tiem b4 sum1 gets seriously hurt |
To be beautiful is to expect nothing in return.
also when posting a reply on this thing, why does it say VIEW MORE EMOTIONS in HUGE capitals and all u get it 2 extra emotions i dint kno the neutral face thing existied.. surely instead of wasting the space saying VIEW MORE EMOTIONS u cud jus remove that and show the other two emotions..
i got bare excited clicked on it thining THERE WERE GNA BE ZILLIONs of emtions (ok thas exaggerating) but i expected more than 2 more emotions!! :roll:
got me excited for no reason
To be beautiful is to expect nothing in return.
Huh? So why is it called wireless if it needs a cabled connection?
I only want it for my PC.
My mate steals his neighbours bandwidth as they have wireless. I'm assuming it's bcoz they haven't got a password activated.
Seraphim, thanks for the link. I understand it abit more.
Ok, the wireless router is [url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LINKSYS-WIRELESS-BROADBAND-ROUTER-A-G-WRT55AG_W0QQ... and the wireless adapter is [url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linksys-Wireless-G-USB-Network-Adapter-WUSB54G-FAS.... Correct me if I'm wrong, I connect the wireless adaptor to my pc. I then connect the router to my bt line (or do I connect the router to my pc?).
I also use wires for everything but recently decided that I needed to go wireless. I'm going to upgrade my internet speed to 8mb soon, and I also wanna play games (online) on my xbox 360 wirelessly.
Showoff
My room is on the 2nd floor and the bt line is on the 1st floor so I had to get a 15meter RJ11 wire and it doesn't look nice, I had to selotape the wire to the wall & ceiling.
Wireless router goes onto your BT line and the adaptor goes onto your PC. You seem to have bought the USB adaptor... i would have gone with an internal one.
Funny thing is i was considering going wireless aswell... as it would solve alot of problems.... none of which are technical problems. My home network works fine... the only time we have a problem with it is when someone messes around with it. :roll: ruddy newbies
anyways let me know how it goes as im thinking of doing it too.
Back in BLACK
Shame you got a few screws loose then isnt it.
_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________
Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight
Sure, you're welcome. :roll:
[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
lol....sorry I wasn't clear enough. I'm only interested in the items I have mentioned above and haven't actually bought them.
I don't do internal bcoz I did abit of DIY before and messed up my PC so had to spend £100 fixing it, that's why I do everything external now.
I was on the xbox website and came across this [url]http://www.xboxemea.com/playtogether/xboxlivemanual/[/url], it clearly explains it using pictures. First click on 'Start Question Flow', then 'Other DSL Broadband', then 'Yes' and lastly click on both 'Router' and 'Home Gateway' and compare the difference.
It says "A router is a separate device that connects to your broadband modem to allow you to share your connection with more than one device.
A home gateway is a broadband modem and router combined, commonly used with ADSL broadband connections."
So I will need to buy a Home Gateway, which is modem and router combined, whereas a router is just.....erm a router, and I don't want that bcoz I'll then need to use a separate modem.
So imagine if I get a Router:
BT Line -> Modem -> Router -> PC
But if I get a Home Gateway:
BT Line -> Home Gateway (Modem & Router combined) -> PC
I've changed my mind and I have bought [url=http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename... and [url=http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US....
Huh, what's that supposed to mean?
I have all the equipment for wireless, have tired connecting few times, no luck so I have given up!
I need someone to do it for me
Did you even look at the link i gave??? That would have broke it down even better for you (from the fantastic site 'How Things Work').
I dislike using Home Gateways as they can have compatibility issues with some broadband providers... which is why i just use the modem the provider gives and hook that up to a router... but to each his own.
Angel sis... tell Seraph all about it... there there....
Tell us what you have and how you've set it up.... its usually the way you've set it up.
Back in BLACK
Yeah I did check the website out, I was looking at the xbox website bcoz as you already know I want to connect my console wirelessly along with my PC.
I noticed the link you gave explained WEP and WPA quite nicely, I was going through YouTube on wireless security issues and came across [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A88XB7_Jz7s][i]this[/i][/url] video which shows the flaws of WEP and how easy it is to hack into someone's wireless network (you HAVE to watch this video, you'll be shocked), but luckily the Gateway I'm getting has WPA & WPA2 which is way more secure than WEP.
If I use a router and a modem, they'll take up more space, both have to be connected using an ethernet wire, and both will need their own power supplies, that's why I'm going for the Home Gateway. My current ISP requires us to buy the modem/router from them so I just bought my own. Hopefully my Wireless Gateway and USB adaptor should be here in a few days so I'll let you know if it worked. I really hope there isn't any compatibility issues with it as you have mentioned, or else I'm going to go mad!
I gave [url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LINKSYS-WIRELESS-BROADBAND-ROUTER-A-G-WRT55AG_W0QQ... link above and said I was interested in it, if I bought the router it wouldn't have worked bcoz I just got an email from a business which sells it. They said "This router is for to be used with NTL / Telewest and NOT ADSL". Luckily I didn't buy it.....phew for that.
Er people......what the hell is going on?
Has anyone seen DM Islam today? They shouldn't be allowed to show stuff like that.
Why do people do crazy stuff?
That kind of crap really freaks me out. I'm sorry if my comments offend anyone, but I find all that corporal punishment/ opus dei like stuff really disturbing.
Without even knowing anything about it, I think it's crazy and stupid. And I really, really hate it.
huh?
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it kinda helps if you tell us wat you say first...
Back in BLACK
I'm goin out now but just to let you know I will take you up on that offer, I am so not technical friendly so its gona be a mission
hope you're ready.
i have a wireless games controller now
...maybe i shudant have got one i'm getting addicted to playing games now i thght i shook that off when i was 18 lol.
Anyone got a nintendo Wi, is it worth buying one or was it more hype than worth the bother?
I thought I did..........
corporal mortification, that's what.
In the streets of the UK. Broadcasted on DM Islam throughout the day. I don't understand why the police, who were present, didn't intervene??? Outside on the streets, loads of males, bare-chested punching themselves. I saw a young boy who looked about 11/12, punching himself as he walked past police officers, his chest bright red. Then, as they walked into a hall, the ropes, chains and knives came out. No police seemed to be inside the hall, but all of it being filmed and on TV on DM Islam, young males covered in blood. There was this one guy hitting himself on the head with a knife. Happening here in the UK. Televised. How and why is that possible?
because its there religous beliefs and i bet the police had a good laugh about it after
i dont understand it either it was sickening watching kids do it , cuz there doing it out of peer pressure , its child abuse/cruelty
if they really wanna hurt themselves they should play cricket with no pads on or football without the chinpads or boxing with no mouth gaurd and gloves
at least they be having fun and hurting themselves
oh your on about the shia practise of matam? i guess coz its a religious practise they allow it, can hardly arrest them for a crime they're consenting to do it themselves?
I dont know how true this is coz this site can be full of some good stuff but also a lot of hatred. But this article suggests the British endorsed the extreme forms of matam take a read u might not like the pics not for the faint hearted:
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/maatam.htm
according to the same site matam was a practise of the early christians and even pre dates it. I for one don't believe matam was a part of christianity, judaism or even Islam. I find it incredibly hard to understand and accept i just don't see the logic behind it no matter what religious arguments are put forward. No Merciful and Loving God would command us to beat ourselves in such a way.
the worst part is mothers and father doing inflicting it on their young babies and children :?
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