"Med" wrote:

"naj" wrote:

"hijaban" wrote:

hello everyone,
i am new to this site and i hope people will be helpfull in answering my questions. first of all i would like to know is piercing the navel for a lady allowed?

thankyou.

assalamu alaikum hijaban

belly piercing is not permissable as i know
Jamee’atul Mufteen (Board of Muftis) comprising of 12 Darul Iftas have ruled in their last sitting that belly piercing for women is not permissible.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

hope you choose to go with this answer.

Muhtarama has given the correct answer according to the Ulama of Ahnaaf. Belly piercing is forbidden and not allowed.

with google searches-u can find anything

Ruling Concerning Wearing Nose rings

Question: What is the ruling concerning wearing nose rings for beautification?

Response: It is permissible for a woman to beautify herself according to what is customary, even if that means she has to pierce part of her body, such as is the case with earrings.

Shaikh ibn Jibreen

http://islamic-world.net/sister/question.htm

^^that fatwa says that if its "customary" she can pierce what she wants

anyway-I'm gonna ask a non-extremist scholar

"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:

shaykh hamza yusuf is one of the biggest scholars in the world today
he has almost a goatie...does that make him a dodgy scholar...does he therefore have no knowledge?
i dont think so.

maybe his beard is not willing to grow, not everyone is fortunate for the full long beard. my cuz bro never shaved ...years passed still goatee like beard...may he be blessed.

Its not a physical condition.

Just like Qari Abdul Basit. He did not keep a beard, but people always tried to excuse it by saying things such as he could not grow one etc.

If you shave, it will not grow.

Alhamdulillah i shall maintain silence in regards to some1s reply to my post.

Can any1 answer what the ahnaaf of minhaj.org say abt the beard and its length. I understood this to be a general questions thread, in which a person can ask a general qsn.

Further, those who belittle the importance of the beard should ponder over the condition of their hearts. By us the ''smallest'' sunnah is more beloved to us than the world and what is in it. I remind the people about my posts regarding the Blessed Goat and Noble Slippers of Nubuwwat salallahu alayhi wa sallam. By us every sunnah, even the Holy Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallams like for kadoo, is a beloved act.

Further, I and the people of our jama'ah are called Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah. viz we are the People of the SUNNAH and the Sahabah Karaam. We are not called the Ahlul Halaal wal Mubaah. viz the People of halaal and permissible acts.

Alhamdulillah we call ourselves the people of sunnah and the Sahabah, there are many things that are halal that are not sunnah, many things mubaah but not sunnah but we claim to be the People of Sunnah and the Sahabah. Hence those who make false claims to be Ahlus Sunnah should ponder, and think over what ALLAH has given them. The beard is indeed a beautiful sunnah, my qsn abt minhaj.org and its views still remain, cud any1 be so kind as to explain the issue to me?

A beard is very important. However it is not the be all and the end all.

The reason Ed always goes on a rant about beards is because he knows some people who will only concentrate on the beard...

Am i to take it that I wont get a full answer?,

k, i asked. the reply is not in my hands

If I knew the position, I would answer. Is it any different from anyone elses? what is everybody elses.

I will leave it for a minhajian to reply.

"Admin" wrote:

If I knew the position, I would answer. Is it any different from anyone elses? what is everybody elses.

I will leave it for a minhajian to reply.

I dnt knw if its any different, thats y i was asking but mashaALLAH I appreciate your response. May ALLAH make us followers of sunnah. ameen

"Admin" wrote:

I will leave it for a minhajian to reply.

how many minhajan scholar brothers are there on this site?

dunno.

"Admin" wrote:

dunno.

None.

But just to make sure...

Will all the Minhaj scholar brothers, clued up on the rulings on the beard, please stand up.

Ok.. I'll try. You can slaughter me if I get it wrong.

I have heard something about it a few years ago.

their position:

A beard is either waajib or Sunnah Muakkadah (I dunno which is their position).

A beard of four sunnah is Sunnah. Four fingers starting under the lip. I think.

There is evidence the prophet trimming his beard, but none of anyone condemning a beard that was smaller than a fist. As there is evidence of people having a beard larger than a fist.

So the final position? Dunno.

"naj" wrote:

Jamee’atul Mufteen (Board of Muftis) comprising of [b]12 Darul Iftas [/b]have ruled in their last sitting that belly piercing for women is not permissible..

its funny when u can see clearly the above ^^^ said fatwas from board of muftis, u still choose 2 be arrogant over this fact, but the truth remains here..

BTW..the above statement is from mufti ibrahim desai for yr info.

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

anyway-I'm gonna ask a non-extremist scholar

LOL u funny, lemme know the fatwa from that scholar

naj you caught LilSis red handed...

However dif scholars can have dif opinions...

I have no idea about its legal position, and do not intend on finding out, as it does not concern me. Its not something I will ever do (coz I am a bloke).

"Admin" wrote:

However dif scholars can have dif opinions...

yea TRUE...but as you can see it aint 1 mufti involved on that same fatwa,
mufti ibrahim desai being the main one who approves it ,but how many muftis in 1 darul ifta?

we cnt go picking and choosing ALWAYZ..when it can be commen sense

"naj" wrote:

we cnt go picking and choosing ALWAYZ..when it can be commen sense

Muhtarama it is a salient feature of the Ahlul Bid'a that they engage in innovation, otherwise they wudnt be Ahlul Bid'a.

I advise u done ur bit, guidance is in ALLAH's hands, we are only bound to pass the message on.

"Med" wrote:

Muhtarama it is a salient feature of the Ahlul Bid'a that they engage in innovation, otherwise they wudnt be Ahlul Bid'a.

I advise u done ur bit, guidance is in ALLAH's hands, we are only bound to pass the message on.

u should do comedy bro

mashaALLAH.

May ALLAH lighten your face and keep you smiling always,
ameen

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

Question: What is the ruling concerning wearing nose rings for beautification?

Response: It is permissible for a woman to beautify herself according to what is customary, even if that means she has to pierce part of her body, such as is the case with earrings.

Shaikh ibn Jibreen

http://islamic-world.net/sister/question.htm

^^that fatwa says that if its "customary" she can pierce what she wants

anyway-I'm gonna ask a non-extremist scholar

u cant take your own interpretation from a fatwa - that one is clearly in response to nose-piercing. ul hav to find one where the question addresses belly button piercing.

btw, it was quite unfair of u to imply that naj's fatwa was automatically by 'extremist' scholars. u should look past the person and see what the scholars have said.

i think the hanafi opinion is that piercing anything other than the ears and nose is forbidden.

why would you pierce your belly button?

if it looks 'pretty'.......who for? supposed to be covered isnt it?

"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:

why would you pierce your belly button?

if it looks 'pretty'.......who for? supposed to be covered isnt it?

Maybe ppl wana do it for themselves, it looks pretty for them to see :roll:

Personally i dont think there is any reason why it should be forbidden unless its to do with the belly button getin infected but wudnt the same apply to ears, nose etc?

Having said that i wud never get it done, i cud imagine it to be sore!

imitating the kafir

thats a joke, but i dont knw what the position is - but im guessin its one of them, some will say total NO, others will say providing this and that

"Aasiyah" wrote:

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

Question: What is the ruling concerning wearing nose rings for beautification?

Response: It is permissible for a woman to beautify herself according to what is customary, even if that means she has to pierce part of her body, such as is the case with earrings.

Shaikh ibn Jibreen

http://islamic-world.net/sister/question.htm

^^that fatwa says that if its "customary" she can pierce what she wants

anyway-I'm gonna ask a non-extremist scholar

u cant take your own interpretation from a fatwa - that one is clearly in response to nose-piercing. ul hav to find one where the question addresses belly button piercing.

btw, it was quite unfair of u to imply that naj's fatwa was automatically by 'extremist' scholars. u should look past the person and see what the scholars have said.

i think the hanafi opinion is that piercing anything other than the ears and nose is forbidden.

i never took my opinion from the fatwa

i only pointed out that with google u can find whatever ur looking for-for and against arguments

remember I'm anti Shaykh yahoo bin google

nor did i call Naj's teachers "extremists" i just pointed out that i was gonna ask a "non extremist scholar"

read posts properly

and HyadUH i cut my hair reg and have my ears pierced-nah mahrams dont SEE this-but that dont stop me frm getting it done :roll:

and Mr Admin i thought u were gonnabe more strict with sectarian name calling?

i dismissed a FATWA and as u can see I was called someone from"Ahlul Bid'a"

God help the name callers

"Med" wrote:

Muhtarama it is a salient feature of the Ahlul Bid'a that they engage in innovation, otherwise they wudnt be Ahlul Bid'a.

I advise u done ur bit, guidance is in ALLAH's hands, we are only bound to pass the message on.

Seriously who is this ahlul biddah?

Can we have a direct and clear answer?

hes not gona say who directly now is he, altho he already has
:roll:

besides mastercardkurry, naj, his eminence Med, and a few select others.... were all Ahlul Bidah

im proud to be

"Admin" wrote:

"Med" wrote:

Muhtarama it is a salient feature of the Ahlul Bid'a that they engage in innovation, otherwise they wudnt be Ahlul Bid'a.

I advise u done ur bit, guidance is in ALLAH's hands, we are only bound to pass the message on.

Seriously who is this ahlul biddah?

Can we have a direct and clear answer?

lol he aint a he, its a word! i think

Ahlul biddah means family of innpvation. Or people of innovation.

He always rants about it.

Now lets wait for him to explain who they are.

I'll ask paxman style...

yo admin can u edit my poll and add a no on 2. it is on judgement day plz

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

nor did i call Naj's teachers "extremists" i just pointed out that i was gonna ask a "non extremist scholar"

dont contradict yself miss, that was a BIG hint in your pointin out.
if thats the case nor did med bro say your someone from "ahle bidah" :twisted:

like naj i want to hear the fatwa from your so called 1 'non-extremist scholar', where as dozen of SUBHANALLAH muftis have given the fatwa its not permissable from the likes of mufti ibrahim. ur weird dissing big muftis for 1 so called non-extremist scholar

"Med" wrote:

I advise u done ur bit, guidance is in ALLAH's hands, we are only bound to pass the message on.

i go with the above^^^, said what i have to

jazzy leave LILSIS 2 it i think shes abit confused.

w/s