Submitted by yuit on 3 November, 2005 - 09:51 #121
I think the best thing we can ask for in duas is to ask Allah swt to grant us in Dunya which can only benefit us in the akhira, surely these are the dua we would want accepted for salvation. Though I wouldn't mind praying for Pro Evolution 5.
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"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
strictly speaking nothing wrong with it... its just pointless.
Why?
Bcoz 'love' falls under free will.
We freely... willingly... fall in love with someone. Thats our right as humans... free will. God refuses to tamper with free will... wont go into why here.
The person either likes you... or he doesnt... yet. Its your job to open his eyes.
I'll leave the 'how' and 'why' to you.
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Submitted by Ramz on 24 December, 2005 - 20:54 #129
God can do anything. In Islam I heard that dua's are always answered.
God can do anything. In Islam I heard that dua's are always answered.
dua's are answered but maybe not always in the way we expected or even wanted - sometimes the thing we think is good 4 us really is not and the thing we think is not good 4 us in reality is....so we should make dua yes but should also accept the outcome whether its what we want or not because at the end of the day Allah knows best
Submitted by Seraphim on 24 December, 2005 - 21:12 #131
"Ramz" wrote:
God can do anything. In Islam I heard that dua's are always answered.
I dont understand your reasoning.
I said i wasnt going to get into this as its mind-numing stuff.
Yes God can do anything and everything but that doesnt mean he will. Its like why does God let Evil people live?? What do you think he likes evil people?? Noooo, its coz they've chosen to be like that... hence free-will. If he chose to he could smite them and smite them good but its the fact that he gave all of the sons and daughters of Adam the ability to choose to be good rather than evil otherwise we'd be no different than the angels (who hav no free will of their own).
Just bcoz you make Dua doesnt necessarily mean it will be accepted or will be answered in the way you want. Its Gods responsibility to show you the way ... if you choose to see it.
My advice ask God to show you the right way. The rest will fall into place.
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Submitted by Omrow on 24 December, 2005 - 21:14 #132
Good advice from the Jedi master.
Submitted by *DUST* on 25 December, 2005 - 02:53 #133
"Ramz" wrote:
Is it wrong to pray for someone to fall in love with you?
on its own, i'd say yes. because thats assuming the person is right for you, but as human beings we can never be 100% sure. so u can make du'a for Allah to bring u and that person together IF it is best for the two of you in this world and the Hereafter.
as muslimkuri pointed out, sometimes we think we want something (that SEEMS great) but it may turn out that its the worst thing ever. so ultimately we should leave the decision up to Allah (s.w.t) and trust that He'll do whatever is best for you in this world and in the Hereafter.
Submitted by Ramz on 25 December, 2005 - 16:04 #134
I read in one of the posts here that dua and action go together. So would it be wrong for me to make the first move on this guy I sort of like as well as pray for it to happen?
Without crossing the line of course. Do men think any less of women who make the first move?
Submitted by Seraphim on 25 December, 2005 - 18:46 #135
"Ramz" wrote:
I read in one of the posts here that dua and action go together. So would it be wrong for me to make the first move on this guy I sort of like as well as pray for it to happen?
Without crossing the line of course. Do men think any less of women who make the first move?
Depends on how you do it.
I wont go into the rules of attraction here... for obvious reasons :oops: but subtlety is the key.
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Submitted by Omrow on 26 December, 2005 - 13:03 #136
Salam
"Ramz" wrote:
Is it wrong to pray for someone to fall in love with you?
She can cast spells !!
May God save the innocents !!
Omrow
Submitted by Ramz on 26 December, 2005 - 13:48 #137
Thats not true!
I was just wondering thats all. There's this decent guy I know and I have a feeling he likes me too because he asked for my number but he just hasnt got round to calling me and talking to my parents about marraige. I was just wondering if I should make the first move by suggesting the idea first.
Submitted by yuit on 26 December, 2005 - 15:50 #138
Nothing wrong with that, as long as you keep too the islamic way of doing it, Didn't Khadijah (ra) ask for the Prophet hand in marriage. So there nothing wrong with this approach IMO.
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"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
suggesting ta get married is the best thing that one can do
Submitted by Omrow on 26 December, 2005 - 22:41 #141
Salam
"Ramz" wrote:
Do boys get put off by forward girls? Is suggesting marraige being forward and shameless?
Yes. They consider such girls dangerous.
Boys start to have nightmares. Wet their beds all over again.
Men are suspicious of loose women.
Omrow
Submitted by yuit on 26 December, 2005 - 23:08 #142
"Ramz" wrote:
Do boys get put off by forward girls? Is suggesting marraige being forward and shameless?
Depend on how you put it, if you come out with it straight then possibly yes. But if you instead put the idea into his thinking then maybe it ok, so he still thinks it his own idea. Really depend on his character of the person really.
But generally your statemnent above is true.
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"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
Submitted by *DUST* on 27 December, 2005 - 02:08 #143
"Ramz" wrote:
Do boys get put off by forward girls? Is suggesting marraige being forward and shameless?
islamically it isnt wrong at all for a woman to put forward the marriage proposal, as we see in the case of Khadija (r.a). but sadly in most cultures its considered 'forward' for a woman to do so.
there are so many things in culture which contradict Islam and we are quick to throw aside, but there are some things that are so deeply ingrained that it is difficult to imagine otherwise - in the Western, Asian and Arab culture it is almost 'wrong' for a woman to propose, even our generation sees it this way. which is really sad considering there's nothing wrong with it from an Islamic point of view. :?
Submitted by Omrow on 27 December, 2005 - 14:44 #146
Salam
"Ramz" wrote:
It is wrong to even hint?
Hints are acceptable to men, as long as the girl does not wink more than twice.
A girl, suggesting to a boy, a possible marriage, in a straight forwards way, is simply out:
She is asking to be politely elbowed.
He will give her the cold shoulder in a very diplomatic way. She will end up losing him.
The thing is that men don't like women doing the pulling, let alone pushing.
Here, I was, ofcourse, talking about their future wife, and not about girlfriends, who are expected to take initiative.
Omrow
Submitted by Ramz on 27 December, 2005 - 19:03 #147
"yuit" wrote:
Didn't Khadijah (ra) ask for the Prophet hand in marriage. So there nothing wrong with this approach IMO.
Read that Omrow. :roll:
Submitted by Omrow on 29 December, 2005 - 01:50 #148
Salam
No. That didn't happen. Yuit just wants to read it that way.
Righteous lady like Khadija would not go up to the Holy Prophet and propose marriage.
Omrow
Submitted by *DUST* on 29 December, 2005 - 01:53 #149
"Omrow" wrote:
No. That didn't happen. Yuit just wants to read it that way.
Righteous lady like Khadija would not go up to the Holy Prophet and propose marriage.
:roll:
so she sent the proposal through her friend Nafeesa (r.a.)
course she didnt go directly to the Prophet (s.a.w), but the point is: SHE proposed.
I think the best thing we can ask for in duas is to ask Allah swt to grant us in Dunya which can only benefit us in the akhira, surely these are the dua we would want accepted for salvation. Though I wouldn't mind praying for Pro Evolution 5.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url](link is external)
lol....get it for eid mate
if only i could play you at that and beat you silly........
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Like your beatin everyone SILLY at the CL game :roll:
I would like to pray that next year everyone starts Ramadan together and finishes Ramadan together.
Heard London are doin it 2day, wonder if muslimsis/lilsis are doin it 2day, hmmm
its probablt split down there as well...
im guessin they doin it 2mrw as well, they started fastin same day as us
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Is it wrong to pray for someone to fall in love with you?
strictly speaking nothing wrong with it... its just pointless.
Back in BLACK
Why?
Bcoz 'love' falls under free will.
We freely... willingly... fall in love with someone. Thats our right as humans... free will. God refuses to tamper with free will... wont go into why here.
The person either likes you... or he doesnt... yet. Its your job to open his eyes.
I'll leave the 'how' and 'why' to you.
Back in BLACK
God can do anything. In Islam I heard that dua's are always answered.
I dont understand your reasoning.
dua's are answered but maybe not always in the way we expected or even wanted - sometimes the thing we think is good 4 us really is not and the thing we think is not good 4 us in reality is....so we should make dua yes but should also accept the outcome whether its what we want or not because at the end of the day Allah knows best
I said i wasnt going to get into this as its mind-numing stuff.
Yes God can do anything and everything but that doesnt mean he will. Its like why does God let Evil people live?? What do you think he likes evil people?? Noooo, its coz they've chosen to be like that... hence free-will. If he chose to he could smite them and smite them good but its the fact that he gave all of the sons and daughters of Adam the ability to choose to be good rather than evil otherwise we'd be no different than the angels (who hav no free will of their own).
Just bcoz you make Dua doesnt necessarily mean it will be accepted or will be answered in the way you want. Its Gods responsibility to show you the way ... if you choose to see it.
My advice ask God to show you the right way. The rest will fall into place.
Back in BLACK
Good advice from the Jedi master.
on its own, i'd say yes. because thats assuming the person is right for you, but as human beings we can never be 100% sure. so u can make du'a for Allah to bring u and that person together IF it is best for the two of you in this world and the Hereafter.
as muslimkuri pointed out, sometimes we think we want something (that SEEMS great) but it may turn out that its the worst thing ever. so ultimately we should leave the decision up to Allah (s.w.t) and trust that He'll do whatever is best for you in this world and in the Hereafter.
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I read in one of the posts here that dua and action go together. So would it be wrong for me to make the first move on this guy I sort of like as well as pray for it to happen?
Without crossing the line of course. Do men think any less of women who make the first move?
Depends on how you do it.
I wont go into the rules of attraction here... for obvious reasons :oops: but subtlety is the key.
Back in BLACK
Salam
She can cast spells !!
May God save the innocents !!
Omrow
Thats not true!
I was just wondering thats all. There's this decent guy I know and I have a feeling he likes me too because he asked for my number but he just hasnt got round to calling me and talking to my parents about marraige. I was just wondering if I should make the first move by suggesting the idea first.
Nothing wrong with that, as long as you keep too the islamic way of doing it, Didn't Khadijah (ra) ask for the Prophet
hand in marriage. So there nothing wrong with this approach IMO.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url](link is external)
Do boys get put off by forward girls? Is suggesting marraige being forward and shameless?
suggesting ta get married is the best thing that one can do
Salam
Yes. They consider such girls dangerous.
Boys start to have nightmares. Wet their beds all over again.
Men are suspicious of loose women.
Omrow
Depend on how you put it, if you come out with it straight then possibly yes. But if you instead put the idea into his thinking then maybe it ok, so he still thinks it his own idea. Really depend on his character of the person really.
But generally your statemnent above is true.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url](link is external)
islamically it isnt wrong at all for a woman to put forward the marriage proposal, as we see in the case of Khadija (r.a). but sadly in most cultures its considered 'forward' for a woman to do so.
there are so many things in culture which contradict Islam and we are quick to throw aside, but there are some things that are so deeply ingrained that it is difficult to imagine otherwise - in the Western, Asian and Arab culture it is almost 'wrong' for a woman to propose, even our generation sees it this way. which is really sad considering there's nothing wrong with it from an Islamic point of view. :?
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Really? :shock:
It is wrong to even hint?
Ramz, take Omrow's posts with a pinch of salt.
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Salam
Hints are acceptable to men, as long as the girl does not wink more than twice.
A girl, suggesting to a boy, a possible marriage, in a straight forwards way, is simply out:
She is asking to be politely elbowed.
He will give her the cold shoulder in a very diplomatic way. She will end up losing him.
The thing is that men don't like women doing the pulling, let alone pushing.
Here, I was, ofcourse, talking about their future wife, and not about girlfriends, who are expected to take initiative.
Omrow
Read that Omrow. :roll:
Salam
No. That didn't happen. Yuit just wants to read it that way.
Righteous lady like Khadija would not go up to the Holy Prophet and propose marriage.
Omrow
:roll:
so she sent the proposal through her friend Nafeesa (r.a.)
course she didnt go directly to the Prophet (s.a.w), but the point is: SHE proposed.
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Thank you Aseya. Now you have understood my previous points.
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