"irfghan" wrote:

I've got Inayet Petker Salutations.

Except it's not Salutations.

It's called Celebrating The 99 Names of Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W.)

Prob an older recording.

Yeah Hayder, I see what you mean about his English singing.

Worth getting?

I'm going to be getting that CD later on today.

The 99 Names track in itself is worth getting.

On the version I've got 99 Names is listed twice. Darud Shareif is on twice also.

There's a bit too much talk and he should lay off the English singing.

But 99 Names of the Prophet (SAW) is defo top.

...Yeah that CD is worth getting just for that track. However are there any other decent tracks on that CD?

The other tracks are decent. There's nothing undecent.

Out of total curiousity what is the origin of the 99 names of Muhammad?

It kinda sounds like somebody is trying to copy the 99 names of God - the number is too coincidental.

Even if they don't use any of the names of God isn't that kinda shirkish?

"Constantine" wrote:

Out of total curiousity what is the origin of the 99 names of Muhammad?

It kinda sounds like somebody is trying to copy the 99 names of God - the number is too coincidental.

Even if they don't use any of the names of God isn't that kinda shirkish?

Good question.

The 99 names of the Holy Prophet (saw), are all in the Qur'an.

Ya-Seen, Muzamil, Ta-ha etc etc are names that you may have come across in the beginning of Surah's (chapters)...some of the names are translated as having "unknown meanings"...however these titles/names of the Holy Prophet (saw).

"MuslimSister" wrote:

"Constantine" wrote:

Out of total curiousity what is the origin of the 99 names of Muhammad?

It kinda sounds like somebody is trying to copy the 99 names of God - the number is too coincidental.

Even if they don't use any of the names of God isn't that kinda shirkish?

Good question.

The 99 names of the Holy Prophet (saw), are all in the Qur'an.

Ya-Seen, Muzamil, Ta-ha etc etc are names that you may have come across in the beginning of Surah's (chapters)...some of the names are translated as having "unknown meanings"...however these titles/names of the Holy Prophet (saw).

Gotcha - another question in the line of the 99 names of God.

I am told muslims cannot name their children any of the names of God without altering to show subservance "abdul Jabbar" et c.

But some of the names are quite common without any attached subservance - why is this?

Like name 48 "`Ali" - and that was Muhammad's cousin's name even [i]before[/i] he converted. I've got friends named Kareem and even our forum friend Latifa takes the female form of name 61 Al-Latif

does the definite article save you from this or something?

That can't be right either - i've got a friend with the surname al-`Aziz - name 44.

gud qsns.

The 99 names are not shirkish. It is from the beauty, eloquence, and poetic nature of arabic that for things which are of honour and of great love they have many names. So in arabic there 10s of words for lion, 10s of words for sword etc.

Now Holy Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam has 99 names, and this is in line with the tradition of arabic language to have a number of names for things which they hold in high esteem.

Secondly, regarding the 99 Names of ALLAH. First point is none of the names can be kept by a human with al, so al azeez, ar-rahmaan, as-salaam, al-wahhaab etc are completely and entirel impermissible. Names with the definitie article (al/the) cannot be kept in arabic.

The other thing is that SOME of the 99 names are not exclusive to ALLAH and can be kept by humans as normal names, and some names are completely impermissible for humans to have without the prefix of slave ('abd). Eg Rahmaan is not a permitted name for a human, no1 can call another human Rahmaan, he must NECESSARILY be Abd ar-Rahmaan, the slave of Rahmaan. But then other names such as 'Ali can be kept by humans without prefixing Abd, but al-Ali wud be completely wrong.

It is more complex and the reasons why some names can be kept and others not is steeped in linguistics and theology which I cant explain in much detail at present.

Naming wise, there are two names you cannot use unless showing subservance.

Those are Allah, and Rahmaan.

A person cannot be called them.

Unless it is in subservance, such of servant of allah, or servant of Rahmaan.

AbdAllah and Abd ArRahman.

^ and ^^^ are bits of Arabic grammar. thus can be A or U depending the usage...

[b]Bin sawan barsat nahi hoti,
Suraj dube bina raat nahi hoti,
Aap kisi ka dil mat todna
Kyonki dil tut ne ki awaz nahi hoti [/b]

[b]Bin sawan barsat nahi hoti,
Suraj dube bina raat nahi hoti,
Aap kisi ka dil mat todna
Kyonki dil tut ne ki awaz nahi hoti [/b]

"MuSlImAh786" wrote:

[b]Bin sawan barsat nahi hoti,
Suraj dube bina raat nahi hoti,
Aap kisi ka dil mat todna
Kyonki dil tut ne ki awaz nahi hoti [/b]

good poem.

I gotta tell wifey that one.

What does it mean?

Med you are married?

without clouds there is no rain,
without sunset there is no night,
Do not break someone's heart,
coz with a breaking heart there is no sound.

wow

"Admin" wrote:

without clouds there is no rain,
without sunset there is no night,
Do not break someone's heart,
coz with the heartbroken there is no sound.

Isn't the last line, 'A breaking heart does not make a sound'?

"irfghan" wrote:

"Admin" wrote:

without clouds there is no rain,
without sunset there is no night,
Do not break someone's heart,
coz with the heartbroken there is no sound.

Isn't the last line, 'A breaking heart does not make a sound'?

yes irfghan gave correct trans.

"Admin" wrote:

without clouds there is no rain,
without sunset there is no night,
Do not break someone's heart,
coz with a breaking heart there is no sound.

I have corrected my translation.

how many of the members here love poetry?

Personally I love it, I find it so deep and meaningful, but thatis only urdu poetry, i hate english ''poetry'' load of cobblers IMO.

I wudnt mind being a poet, but I dnt think my dad wud be too happy abt that, lol.

"Med" wrote:

how many of the members here love poetry?

Personally I love it, I find it so deep and meaningful, but thatis only urdu poetry, i hate english ''poetry'' load of cobblers IMO.

I wudnt mind being a poet, but I dnt think my dad wud be too happy abt that, lol.

ewwww...all that sop mop jummbled up with some fancy words...doesnt really float my boat

Naah.

Poetry does not float my bat either.

it doesnt have to be just sop mop. Dont u think naat is also a form of poetry, what abt nazams, nasheeds etc. They are all poetry arent they?

"Med" wrote:

it doesnt have to be just sop mop. Dont u think naat is also a form of poetry, what abt nazams, nasheeds etc. They are all poetry arent they?

Yes they are.

I can never concentrate on the words...

Poetry is not for me.

"Admin" wrote:

Yes they are.

I can never concentrate on the words...

Poetry is not for me.

Have you read [u]any[/u] Rumi?

salaam

love poetry if u havent already guessed lol however can never write my own ? my dads a part time poet loves having his mushairey at home, nearly all the time

(mushairey= mehfil type where theres just a bunch of poets each saying what they have each written sat around a hookah)

"irfghan" wrote:

Have you read [u]any[/u] Rumi?

Not knowingly.

"Saadia Khan" wrote:

salaam

love poetry if u havent already guessed lol however can never write my own :? my dads a part time poet loves having his mushairey at home, nearly all the time

(mushairey= mehfil type where theres just a bunch of poets each saying what they have each written sat around a hookah)

can i invite myself to his next mehfil, I like the sound of hookah and poetry, lol.

mmmmmm hookah and poetry.

wasn't talking about all poetry

but all that 'soppy love poetry' makes me wanna chuck :roll:

lol the only thing I couldn't really get over was "yea... but don't moths go to the flame because they are stupid and get distracted?"