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Fall in love some time - deeply
You find yourself doing all kinds of incomprehensibly unbalanced things.
Her position is a lot more painful than you might imagine
It aint about romance. Its about them trusting you to make a decision.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
That im afraid is all too true.
love is both beautiful and painful. They both come hand in hand.
As the pain is alot more devastating when caused by a loved one.
Back in BLACK
This ones my fav, I think alot of people in the asian society are biased about the skin colour, you know when they say "oh shes so beautiful and white" Hello what about "shes so beautiful and black"
THROUGH LOVE all that is bitter will be sweet.
Through Love all that is copper will be gold.
Through Love all dregs will turn to purest wine.
Through Love all pain will turn to medicine.
Through Love the king will turn into a slave!
say u make a wrong decision
who u gonna go crying back to?
holy smokes..
another hurting topic....
hey, atleast it was you who made the mistake. Atleast you will not suffer for someone elses mistake.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
why is it a hurting topic?
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
coz tiz, U wont know.. btw im impressed on what u wrote on page 1.
easier said then done.
I repeat-who ur gonna go crying to?
ur parents to hear them say "I told u so"? :roll:
It was less advice, more a series of questions ramz would have to answer truthfully to herself.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Naj this should put a smile on ur face
I cant answer ramz dilemna but what i do know is-there are ways to get out of forced marraiges
there is some truth in the jokes above
Admin, ramz was looking for help, not "a series of questions ramz would have to answer truthfully to herself".
advice can come in the form of questions aswell, she doesn't want anyone telling her what to do, but to give her a guide line
THROUGH LOVE all that is bitter will be sweet.
Through Love all that is copper will be gold.
Through Love all dregs will turn to purest wine.
Through Love all pain will turn to medicine.
Through Love the king will turn into a slave!
ramz needs to clear her own head out-be sure of what she's doing before she seeks advice
So, I gave her my advice, and I was honestly sickened by Yashmaki's approach, offense or no offense.
At the end of the day, it is her who has to decide.
So she must be sure about her position on ALL of it and all possible fall out.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
thanx alot lilsis....but cnt get out of it i know so.
NOT that im forced....asked having agreed den changing my mind when things gone to far...
cnt possibly shame my parents can I.
She can make her offers. If she offers her boyfriend love, in a Muslim marriage, and offers her parents love, let everyone say what they will say and that will be that, no problem, but it is scary, and those that won't, won't. Adding to the pressure by crunching that equaion over, with advice contrary to what ramz intends, is very upsetting for me to read. I respect her, in her position, and I was bluntly realistic, and I really cannot respect Yashmaki's advice, and I advocate that ramz lives a free and fulfilling life of her choosing and agreement in line with her plea for help. That is how not to have to marry against her wishes, which was the question.
We all did dedicate a very large amount of our time to correcting each others idiotic beliefs.
It seems more like her problem was a catalyst for our discussion about who is more right rather than a problem we are trying to solve...
I was just saying my piece man.
when you ask for advice, you have o be willing to get a reply that you may not like.
After all if you had an answer, you would not be asking.
Fair to say, you do not agree with Yashmaki. Fair enough. You do not have to.
Any objection raised to yourself was at the 'Zzzzz!', not you not liking her advice.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Yashmaki's ignoring it Admin, get over it.
I really wasn't talking about anyone in particular - i meant in general.
When you click on this page the first thing you see is
"loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool" and a congratulatory remark from med to lilsis about how right she is.
followed by discussions about whos right whos not why they are right who is being stupid and a quick comment from naj that implies shes in the same situation.
That's not about solving Ramz's problem... that's just another discussion
So I'd best point out it's no skin off my back and I don't "know". Respect, Constantine. Yaz very very good.
back to topic everyone.
truthfully I cannot see parents never understanding... they will understand, and accept. It may take time, but it'll happen.
But it may be because of the people I know.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Ramz what's your relationship like with your parents? Are they distant but controlling or do you have a solid relationship?
yeh they may understand and accept.
But personally, the relationship between parents and child wont EVER be the same again. Why risk that pure relationship for a husband/wife innit?
Like I said before, it might mean the child having to give up a lot, perhaps having to give up the best thing ever for them , perhaps having to give up that thing which seemed so perfect for them, but cant that be done for your parents?
Maybe, ALLAH will reward the child so well that he wishes he could make that sacrifice again for his parents?
Who knows? Im just chatting it, ignore me. dunno what im on abt , lol
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
And it will not be the same if they force you to change either.
You will not havbe the same level of trust in them.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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