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Amal wrote:
I remember a scholar once mentioning that whilst a person may be pronouncing the Arabic without the full tajweed, they are pronouncing it to the best that they are able to do - Allah swt will not punish us for what is not within our control, right? As long as they are making the effort is what I think should be considered and emphasised, not something that may be beyond their control.

Reading normal Arabic text doesn't require tajweed but reading the Qur'an does.

Aisha (ra) reported: Allah's Messenger Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) said, "One who is proficient in the Qur'an is associated with the noble, upright, righteous angels; and he who falters in it, and finds it difficult for him, will have a double reward". [Muslim]

MuslimBro wrote:
Amal wrote:
I remember a scholar once mentioning that whilst a person may be pronouncing the Arabic without the full tajweed, they are pronouncing it to the best that they are able to do - Allah swt will not punish us for what is not within our control, right? As long as they are making the effort is what I think should be considered and emphasised, not something that may be beyond their control.

Reading normal Arabic text doesn't require tajweed but reading the Qur'an does.

Aisha (ra) reported: Allah's Messenger Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) said, "One who is proficient in the Qur'an is associated with the noble, upright, righteous angels; and he who falters in it, and finds it difficult for him, will have a double reward". [Muslim]

JazakAllahu khair for that hadith, I think its a very important and beautiful hadith :--) and you make a very important point!

Im not sure if I got the wrong end of the stick, Id like to make it clear that im not sanctioning reciting the Qur'an without tajweed - believe me, Im a massive fan of learning and education, and Im scared of the thought of ever changing Allah aza waj'al's words even by mistake!! :shock: :!: :shock: Let me just repeat what I said (ahem)

Amal wrote:
As long as they are making the effort is what I think should be considered and emphasised, not something that may be beyond their control.

I began learning Arabic when I was 3, so Allah aza waj'al blessed me in that alhamdulilah, but Ive met many Muslims who face difficulties in pronounciation that I didnt, and it would be cruel and really arrogant and self-righteous to be so strict on them. I empathise with, and understand that some of us may have difficulties in pronounciation. But mashaAllah they are trying to improve and become better - and inshaAllah one day they will be perfect! That learning should be encouraged.. Am I wrong in my understanding? :?

May Allah shine sweet faith upon you this day and times beyond. May your heart be enriched with peace, and may your home be blessed always. Ameen.

Learning is an ongoing process and mastering tajweed takes time.

My tajweed teacher who is also a scholar on tafsir was telling us how he used to struggle reading the Qur'an... when he was 22 years old!

I was reading Qur'an with a friend of mine who is in the process of learning how to recite.

he was finding it really difficult but Alhamdulillah getting through it slowly, while making quite a few mistakes.

We got to verse 58 of surah dukhan which translates as "Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in thy tongue," and both couldn't help laughing!

Don't just do something! Stand there.

Ya'qub wrote:
I was reading Qur'an with a friend of mine who is in the process of learning how to recite.

he was finding it really difficult but Alhamdulillah getting through it slowly, while making quite a few mistakes.

We got to verse 58 of surah dukhan which translates as "Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in thy tongue," and both couldn't help laughing!

It's meant to be easy compared to Latin or Hebrew, and it would've been easy for the Arabs.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

love to live but living to die wrote:
women drivers! tut tut tut... any advice on what to do if ur car breaks down on a right turn lane only?

Get out and start pushing?

You can't push the car on your own., unless you're huge....

any1 have a dua i can read too relieve toothache?

with eng translation plz

jazakAllah!

To be beautiful is to expect nothing in return.

Snoopz wrote:

any1 have a dua i can read too relieve toothache?

with eng translation plz

jazakAllah!

Allah (swt) understands English, you know.

I don't know if there's a du'aa that is sunnah for toothache, but otherwise there would be no point using a du'aa in Arabic.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

Question for Naz......

The LPC P-time.....is it one day or one evening a week? I was under the presumption it was thursday evenings, but the website says full day thursday?

I've managed to find a paralegal job in a solicitors firm in Bolton, but i'm gonna be working mon-fri 9-5.... i told them it wont come in the way of the course, as its evenings. :doubt:

Seraphim, have you finished the LPC now?

Ya'qub wrote:
Snoopz wrote:

any1 have a dua i can read too relieve toothache?

with eng translation plz

jazakAllah!

Allah (swt) understands English, you know.

I don't know if there's a du'aa that is sunnah for toothache, but otherwise there would be no point using a du'aa in Arabic.

duhh

To be beautiful is to expect nothing in return.

Hayder/Sirus wrote:
Question for Naz......

The LPC P-time.....is it one day or one evening a week? I was under the presumption it was thursday evenings, but the website says full day thursday?

I've managed to find a paralegal job in a solicitors firm in Bolton, but i'm gonna be working mon-fri 9-5.... i told them it wont come in the way of the course, as its evenings. :doubt:

Seraphim, have you finished the LPC now?

LPC part-time is one day a week (Thursdays)... and yes thats ALL day.

Back in BLACK

Seraphim wrote:
Hayder/Sirus wrote:
Question for Naz......

The LPC P-time.....is it one day or one evening a week? I was under the presumption it was thursday evenings, but the website says full day thursday?

I've managed to find a paralegal job in a solicitors firm in Bolton, but i'm gonna be working mon-fri 9-5.... i told them it wont come in the way of the course, as its evenings. :doubt:

Seraphim, have you finished the LPC now?

LPC part-time is one day a week (Thursdays)... and yes thats ALL day.

No offence, but isn't that completely stupid?

How can someone who is working full-time study?

My ILEX course was 8 hours a week too: 5.15pm-9.15pm Mondays and Wednesdays.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

Ya'qub wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Hayder/Sirus wrote:
Question for Naz......

The LPC P-time.....is it one day or one evening a week? I was under the presumption it was thursday evenings, but the website says full day thursday?

I've managed to find a paralegal job in a solicitors firm in Bolton, but i'm gonna be working mon-fri 9-5.... i told them it wont come in the way of the course, as its evenings. :doubt:

Seraphim, have you finished the LPC now?

LPC part-time is one day a week (Thursdays)... and yes thats ALL day.

No offence, but isn't that completely stupid?

How can someone who is working full-time study?

My ILEX course was 8 hours a week too: 5.15pm-9.15pm Mondays and Wednesdays.

well...study is part time. Work finishes at 5, any study can kick in after that. Its possible, just have to manage time well inshallah.

and hope i can get thursdays off :?

Seraphim, have you finished then?

Hayder/Sirus wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Hayder/Sirus wrote:
Question for Naz......

The LPC P-time.....is it one day or one evening a week? I was under the presumption it was thursday evenings, but the website says full day thursday?

I've managed to find a paralegal job in a solicitors firm in Bolton, but i'm gonna be working mon-fri 9-5.... i told them it wont come in the way of the course, as its evenings. :doubt:

Seraphim, have you finished the LPC now?

LPC part-time is one day a week (Thursdays)... and yes thats ALL day.

No offence, but isn't that completely stupid?

How can someone who is working full-time study?

My ILEX course was 8 hours a week too: 5.15pm-9.15pm Mondays and Wednesdays.

well...study is part time. Work finishes at 5, any study can kick in after that. Its possible, just have to manage time well inshallah.

and hope i can get thursdays off :?

Seraphim, have you finished then?

To answer your question yes... yes ive finished.
On my first vacation in 5 years.

Back in BLACK

love to live but living to die wrote:
Who knows about Imam Sohaib Webb?? Has anyone attendeed any of his talks... etc etc...

Apparently he is a very good speaker ... and i missed his talk at FOSIS! :roll: (typical of me!) BUT i shall find out what he's like in his speech on Wednesday inshallah!

there's a talk at the Ladybarn Lane Al-Islah Centre... all welcome... but if some1's interested then here r the details >>

Yeah, I saw him talk last year...mash'Allah he is excellent. Very inspiring, and also he can talk to young people cos he is in touch with us-he grew up in the west. Unlike many other speakers out there who don't seem to be living in the same world as us.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

Hayder/Sirus wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Hayder/Sirus wrote:
Question for Naz......

The LPC P-time.....is it one day or one evening a week? I was under the presumption it was thursday evenings, but the website says full day thursday?

I've managed to find a paralegal job in a solicitors firm in Bolton, but i'm gonna be working mon-fri 9-5.... i told them it wont come in the way of the course, as its evenings. :doubt:

Seraphim, have you finished the LPC now?

LPC part-time is one day a week (Thursdays)... and yes thats ALL day.

No offence, but isn't that completely stupid?

How can someone who is working full-time study?

My ILEX course was 8 hours a week too: 5.15pm-9.15pm Mondays and Wednesdays.

well...study is part time. Work finishes at 5, any study can kick in after that. Its possible, just have to manage time well inshallah.

and hope i can get thursdays off :?

Seraphim, have you finished then?

LPC is HARD, part-time or full-time, you must be SEROUSLY dedicated if you want to work full-time during it. :idea: I dont know what LPC is like up north, but in London where I am, I calculted in total 34 exams in that year (about 80% of exams being 3 hours long) :shock: Alhamdulilah and mashaAllah to anyone that gets through it! :o :shock:

May Allah shine sweet faith upon you this day and times beyond. May your heart be enriched with peace, and may your home be blessed always. Ameen.

love to live but living to die wrote:
women drivers! tut tut tut... any advice on what to do if ur car breaks down on a right turn lane only?

Get out and stand beside the car. I can almost GUARANTEE you that a guy will come by and ask you if you need any help (not in a disgusting sort of way, but genuine desire to help! Dirol ) In general, Ive found a Muslim brother *on hand* to help me when Ive needed it like that lol, and mashaAllah for that Im grateful to (them and) Allah aza waj'al!! Smile

May Allah shine sweet faith upon you this day and times beyond. May your heart be enriched with peace, and may your home be blessed always. Ameen.

In pictures: Gay Pride march

... while others, such as this Muslim participant, had a more serious message of acceptance.

I was cutting a red onion today and it got me thinking why do they call them red onions when they are purple? :?

No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy

Where was this taken?

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

That post would have been better in the "Revival Creative" forum

love to live but living to die wrote:
i don't see no one minding...

that sentence means that you do see someone minding...

Don't just do something! Stand there.

love to live but living to die wrote:
You* wrote:
That post would have been better in the "Revival Creative" forum

why wots wrong with it being here? i don't see no one minding...

Nothing wrong with it being here, but IMO it would have given the post greater exposure and would have been near other creative work so that people can move within that field.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

love to live but living to die wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
love to live but living to die wrote:
i don't see no one minding...

that sentence means that you do see someone minding...

how?

Double negative, maybe? You don't see NO ONE minding!

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

I mind.

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

love to live but living to die wrote:
o silly me... i get it now... i cancelled out my statement

*Funzo : what exactly do u 'mind'?

He's just being a pain, I think.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

love to live but living to die wrote:
Courage wrote:
love to live but living to die wrote:
o silly me... i get it now... i cancelled out my statement

*Funzo : what exactly do u 'mind'?

He's just being a pain, I think.

let him speak for himself! tut tut... don't put words in his mouth!

Thank you, Courage for backing me and standing up for me!
I'll be fine now I don't want you to support me anymore, Courage.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

No the reason why i said i mind was that it doesnt really fit in the no topic are i think it would be best to post it there to liven it up.

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

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