Abu Musa al-Ash’ari said:
The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
“Any woman who puts on perfume then passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, is an adulteress.”
So women shouldn't wear perfume (outside the home or except for her husband) because it can stimulate male desires, attract them to the woman etc BUT what about men who wear cologne? Does that not excite female desires in the same way, is it not the same thing?
Another thing. What about attar (for both men and women)?
ARGHHH ON SATURDAY! this girl put attar on me!!!! and i needed to go out! >.<
i had to like, wave my scarf around, wash my hand, and like, put water over my stuffs (jilbaab, scarf), scary stuff that was...
plus it didnt smell nice, i think it went off...
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
Do women bathe in the stuff?
I find sometimes that the scent of their perfume just lingers in a room well after they've left.
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I put attar on during Salah time.
Your own soul is nourished when you are kind; it is destroyed when you are cruel.
Why is she an adultress?
bcoz she is trying to lure them with her perfume. Its her intent.
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Lure them?
THEM?
Her intent?
How do you know this just from the smelling her perfume?
Be honest.
Have you ever felt lured into something because of a perfume smell?
exactly. I think this
only applies if its her intent. Altho thats jst my opinon.
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Yes lure them, as in to seduce guys. As in, was it her intention to seduce them or to attract their gaze.
I dont know how you'd know this. Im not such a woman lol.
LOL at the last bit. And no, but it has certainly made me aware of certain women purely based on their perfume. Like makes them more noticeable.
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I've always thought it's because guys will be attracted to the smell (whether that was her intention or not) which may cause Zina (of the eyes, ears, mouth - if the latter two are possible - i think they could be).
It's kinda like the Hijaab, a woman wears it partly to help men lower their gaze which is why we shouldn't wear perfume as it'll attract rather than repel (ok not REPEL REPEL but 'not draw attention to').
BUT a guy wearing nice cologne/after-shave/fragrance, draws attention to himself and attracts chicks too (hence the forum).
I do too - well recently at least. Although again i read:
Zaynab al-Thaqafiyyah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
'If any one of you (women) goes out to the mosque, let her not touch any perfume.'
But that's just for the Masjid right? So general ruling = not in public places?
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If women didn't lave the kitchen, there would be none of them out there to smell the cologne.
You get me?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Remember people that context is important too.
Intention will also matter and if the perfume is used as a tool of the trade, then its use will also be condemned.
Sometimes when translations of ahadith are read without an understandinf of the time, their understanding may not always be simple - something that is metaphorical can be taken as a literal or vice versa. It does not help that some scholars will take the more ... conservative option and suggest that that is the only meaning.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Bah Humbug
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:O
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
@ Seraphim: clicked on the savethehijaabi link and the first thing i read was:
'"Who? Or what are you?"
"Think of me as your personal Guardian Angel." I chuckled.
Her eyes widened by a fraction before she went bright red and looked away but said nothing. I could tell she was embarrassed and it was hard not to grin. The wind changed direction and I caught a whiff of her floral scent.'
Even she wears perfume
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she sounds like a pretty hijabi who GA has got a thing for...ofcourse she's gna wear seductive perfume! ^_^
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Now we know what you would do!
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yes, i'd wear loads of make up, and jewellery and anything that makes a sound and makes me more noticeable too...
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
HEELS
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you know what? i wrote down "make up, heels and anything else..." but decided to take out heels for some reason? i thought maybe the girls would have some problem with that or something lol
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
and like all good stories, we know that she is not really a damsel in distress but a planted evil minion to foil the protagonists plans.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Yeh i thought twice too but hey as much as i love them, they make noise!
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I saw the prettiest hijaabi ever the other day. Perfect face. Not too skinny. And she had the most brilliant smile ever.
Just thought I'd mention it here.
yay! i'm glad we're on the same wavelength
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Yup mentally like two peas in a pod
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which would be like what? clones? twins? same genetic makeup? or maybe its the "time in the pod" that causes the similarities?
there's more than two peas in a pod, i'm sure...
and Truth. trust you to come up with the Guardian Angel extract, that just made me lol, maybe its her natural scent?
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
:roll:
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
apparently u can get rubber put on the heels so they dnt do the clickety-clack
"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"
It's not fair that men can go out wearing yummy aftershave
(I just like the aftershave, I wouldn't mind wearing it mmmm)
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
linx africa? hehe
but dude, you dont start imagining stuff when you smell a guy's aftershave..right...whereas guys... wait..is this is girl's section?
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