"Aasiyah" wrote:

"Admin" wrote:

Secondly, the sectarian bit was:

he is not a scholar. He has no right to call himself a scholar. he is wrong. etc... he should not have done a tafsir of the qur'an.

He shouldor should not have done that. I do not care either way. But criticising him jus for th sake of it is not good. If someone has not done full Dars Nizami (as he may not have... I do not know) it does not mean the person does not have any knowledge or understanding...

i agree with all those points admin, but i stil dont c how it contributes to sectarianism as mawdudi doesnt have his own 'sect' as such right? tho yeh, fair enuf, he does hav a loada supporters (esp. among arabs, interestingly!).

Jama'at-e-Islami is his group.Not sure if you can class it as a 'sect', but at the same time insulting it will get a strong response from his followers

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so Med, i got in touch with a Deobandi scholar about this, and here's wot he basically sed:
'we do not call Mawdudi a 'scholar' as he did not go through an instituiton such as Darul Uloom. However, he did study privately with various scholars and may well have gained ijazah through them. All humans make mistakes, so although we do not agree with Mawdudi on some points, it would be foolish to disregard his works altogether.' Incidentally, this deobandi scholar also mentioned that Mawdudi has a great book on ur favourite subject Med: Purdah!

Dars e-e nizami is not the be all and the end all.

It is a course. You can be a scholar without it. You can be unscholarly with it.

It is a syllabus.

"Admin" wrote:

"Aasiyah" wrote:

so Med, i got in touch with a Deobandi scholar about this, and here's wot he basically sed:
'we do not call Mawdudi a 'scholar' as he did not go through an instituiton such as Darul Uloom. However, he did study privately with various scholars and may well have gained ijazah through them. All humans make mistakes, so although we do not agree with Mawdudi on some points, it would be foolish to disregard his works altogether.' Incidentally, this deobandi scholar also mentioned that Mawdudi has a great book on ur favourite subject Med: Purdah!

Dars e-e nizami is not the be all and the end all.

It is a course. You can be a scholar without it. You can be unscholarly with it.

It is a syllabus.

exactly - its the institutionalised way to become a 'scholar'. but even then, i personally find it wierd that after 5 years one can call themselves a scholar. it takes much more than just that to become 'knowledgeable'.

is this the same one, duno if it's a repeat or what? Tell me please:

[u][b]Radio 4
Thursday 17th Novemeber
20:00
Koran and Country
Biography of a Bomber[/u][/b]

What turns a British-born Muslim into a suicide bomber? Nasreen Suleaman talks to those who knew Mohammad Sidique Khan, the eldest of the July 7 bombers. He tries to unravel the mystery of what turned this well integrated, popular and intelligent young man into a terrorist.

All week there's been talks on Islam..i just noticed now talk about slow lol. I don't listen in evening much..that's my excuse.

Ok there's list so let me post you all the Koran and country programmes:

[u][b]Radio Ramadan
Friday 18 November 2005 11:00-11:30 (Radio 4 FM)[/u][/b]

For British Muslims, an increasingly important part of Ramadan is the ability to tune in to local religious radio stations. These stations are given a temporary licence to broadcast 24 hours a day during the holy month.

This year there were 36 'Radio Ramadans' around the country - a far cry from when the first service appeared in Bradford in the early 1990s. Mark Whitaker meets the men and women who staffed stations in Bradford, Rochdale and Edinburgh during October, and reports on what Britain's Muslim communities have been talking and arguing about.

[u][b]20:00
Koran and Country
Inside a Muslim School
Thursday 24 November 2005 20:00-20:30 (Radio 4 FM)[/u][/b]

Jenny Cuffe gains exclusive access to Al-Islah girls' school in Blackburn, a privately run Muslim institution currently teaching nearly 200 students. It is situated above a mosque near Blackburn town centre. The school was founded in 1995 in response to demands from parents who were worried about the effect the state system might have on their children, and who favoured a strict Islamic ethos.

Jenny meets teachers, students and some of their parents - and finds out how Islam affects the curriculum, questioning whether these students are receiving a broad enough education.

Ref: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4

thank you so very kind!

"Aasiyah" wrote:

"Med" wrote:

Yes I acknowledge that some of his books were written well, but overall his wrong comments outweight his good ones.

jazakallah khair for acknowledging that! so would u not then agree that as Muslims we should judge others by their good points first and foremost?

yes. But the bad points in mawdudi sahib outweigh the good. His comments in his books are beyond me.

And yes, agreeed that dars e nizami aint the be all and end all. There are other ways of becoming alim.

But my point of mentioning it is that mawdudi, whichever way you look at it, was NOT qualified alim, by any stretch of imagination.

Dars e Nizami is minimum 6 yrs, in uk. In indo pak I think min 7 yrs, but can be for 8 years. This is not including the ibtidaa'iyyah stages. Overall course is 14 odd years.

so its not the be all and the end all, youu do not need to go through it.

But because he did not, he is not a scholar?

Just say you disagree with his opinion, and be done with the 'debate'.

in the end it does not matter wether you think he is a scholar or not.

(I am offering a way out of this debate. please take it.)

lol, brother I dont see any debate going on.

People want to take mawdudi as a scholar, they are MORE than welcome to it, lol ALL of jamaat e islami take him to be some great man, that is their choice.

I think, my post regarding his comments about Ambiya alayhimus salaatu was salaam and also Sahabah Karaam alayhim ridhwaan are pretty clear.

Anything further I add will be going round in a circle. So I best end it here.