Submitted by Angelic (not verified) on 15 March, 2010 - 11:49 #61
hudhafah wrote:
You wrote:
Calling Bush a terrorist is easy.
Calling out the rotten apples in your own side is harder and something he has completely failed at.
actually even that has been stated by zakir naik, whenever he says the phrase so called muslims, as for calling bush terrorist i dont see any sufi scholars like tahirul qadri having the guts to say that, infact they rather call the muslims who are being attacked by the americans terrorist, who started the war america, what are palestine and afghans doing, defending in return what do sufi barelvi call them terrorist, you have a guy who defends the kafir infact goes and celebrates with them and then comes out and gives some so called 600 page nonsense, besides if tahirul qadri was to show the bad things about his people he should start with himself for being a deviant and commiting shirk openly.
Just one question Hudhafah, forget for one moment that Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri issued this fatwa, is it wrong to condemn suicide bombings and terrorism and to show Muslims and non-Muslims that this is completely against Islam? Just a yes or no will do nothing else.
Well the Salafis just laughed at the fatwa and ignored it. But I see this as really important if it can steer Muslims away from the Salafi views.
From what I've seen, the Salafis seem to agree that although Islam condemns killing innocents, they also see, say, British citizens as not being innocent (and thus being fair game for blowing up) because they are taxpayers, and therefore complicit in their government's actions. They also discuss a strong haddith about destroying trees which is their covert way, I think, of discussing destroying civilian women and children (as women and children are mentioned just before the trees). Ho hum.
Just one question Hudhafah, forget for one moment that Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri issued this fatwa, is it wrong to condemn suicide bombings and terrorism and to show Muslims and non-Muslims that this is completely against Islam? Just a yes or no will do nothing else.
Well the Salafis just laughed at the fatwa and ignored it. But I see this as really important if it can steer Muslims away from the Salafi views.
From what I've seen, the Salafis seem to agree that although Islam condemns killing innocents, they also see, say, British citizens as not being innocent (and thus being fair game for blowing up) because they are taxpayers, and therefore complicit in their government's actions. They also discuss a strong haddith about destroying trees which is their covert way, I think, of discussing destroying civilian women and children (as women and children are mentioned just before the trees). Ho hum.
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