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why should i? noor means dawn a name often adopted by a recent revert whatever, muslims make up a tiny % of the population, since you seem to have no intelligent contribution to make, be silent. we the culturally euroropean non muslim majority are fed up with the attitude of mulims in the uk to us. non-mulims show some respect and there is the every chance that you will be able to continue with your strange cult in england
enjoy your jihad
have u ever thought about actually taking in what you read or listening to what someones saying?
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
if you are so fed up with muslims then why are you posting on a muslim forum?
you love us really.
Not on this forum. and when it is a religious opposition, it is mainly focussed in US Christian denominations.
There are a vast majority of Muslims who also oppose aspects of the theory of evolution (natural selection does not equal inter-species evolution, though it can encompass it.), when the majority argue against it, I doubt it is argued against from a strictly dogmatic point of view - the main one is emotional "are you saying I am descended from apes? HOW DARE YOU"
If you really read Dawud's post, I think it is a good question, while also thinking that there will be ways around it. DNA/RNA and recent unsequencing has thrown up a lot of questions that are as yet unanswered. why do humans contain so few protein coding genes - less than a quarter of what was expected and far fewer than what many plant life contain.
If this was a strictly dogmatic question, there would be no muslims accepting natural selection/evolution as possible (refer to the earlier absolutism we touched on in some other topic), but there are and they have not been condemned as apostates - they live freely amongst the Muslim community.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
[[I fully agree with Noor on the Tom thing now. Enough, it's boring and disruptive =/
Either be nice or leave us to 'enjoy our jihad' in peace. See what i did there? ;] ]]
On topic. Can't you be a theist and believe in evolution in that God could be controlling the evolution process?
But then, if you are, is that saying God is fallible because he created things that need improving and ALSO
As in, why couldn't he make them all at once, why did it take steps?
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
A theist can believe in evolution and that god created the process.
No, maybe what came first was also perfect?
Over the millennia the earth's environment has changed and its hospitability to different forms of life has adapted over time, so if everything was thrown into a melting pot, the animals that find life hospitable today would very possibly not have survived.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Yup, heard of fossils and the Cambrian explosion, when there was an 'explosion' in the number of species, no?
Excuse me for being thick, but could you tell me a bit more about what you were getting at?
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
I did not say that for fear of being sued by the apes the theory is that both developed from a common ancestor millions ofyears ago yet another muslim that has never heard of fossils and prefers to believe thet he was made by an invisible being from clay so that the invisible being would be worshipped WHY DOES God WANT/NEED TO BE WORSHIPPED?
You are a Christian if I'm not very much mistaken. Can I ask you about Christianity please?
Why do you pray?
Do you pray in the same way as Jesus (peace be upon him) prayed?
Who did Jesus (p.b.u.h.) pray to?
Do you believe Jesus (p.b.u.h.) is God in a human body? Or the Son of God? Or both? Or neither?
Because it all seems very confusing and unnecessarily complicated to me.
Thanks
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
@ tom -= can you PLEASE learn to quote properly? I cba fixing any more posts due to shoddy quoting. It does not take even an iota of intelligence to carry out such a simple task correctly, but it wastes my time. Time I would rather waste elsewhere.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I only just got that. So what you're saying is that white, British, convert Muslims are neither here nor there.
They don't count as a voice for Muslims, because we are essentially a warmongering eastern ethnicity; and they don't count as representative of their white, British roots because you think of yourself as the "culturally European non-Muslim" majority.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
it would be better for the rest of us if you learnt to type or had anything to say rather than scoring cheap shots. enjoy your jihad tom
It is not a cheap shot - til now I have been fixing your posts in order to make sure they are readable to others. but it gets tiring fast and takes effort since I have to scroll back to see which bits are quoted and which bits are not.
EDIT - and you are right, it is a cheap shot. I should know better.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Something a year old:
Read more @ Telegraph
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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