I think Love and Fear should go hand in hand. It stem from something that Hazrat Umar (ra) said
"If I heard a voice from heaven saying: O people! All will go to paradise except one person, on account of my fear of allah I would think that I was that person. And if I heard a voice from the heaven saying that all will be consigned to hell except one person, I would on account of my trust in allah mercy, think that I must be that person"
Also there a hadith that also mention something similar.
"If a believer knew about the punishment of allah swt then no one would desire for paradise and if a disbeliever knew about the mercy of allah then no one would become hopless from paradise"
Sorry no reference, got them from my tafseer.
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"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
Anyway, I've read the chapter on zikr. Really clarifies things.
Submitted by Sirus on 3 November, 2005 - 14:48 #39
pictures? lol
im still on chapter 1 , but the explanation on thier perception of life, the sufi theory, sifi practices, the 3 domains of faith, doing the beauty....
its amazin :shock:
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The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Allahuakbar on 3 November, 2005 - 23:15 #40
Sufi's. Aint they the guys who do the weird dancing stuff and totally lose themselves so that they've lost the plot while spinning around and their eyes wandering all over the place?
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The media, government, tried to blow us, but they can't out the flame, or doubt the name.
Submitted by Beast on 3 November, 2005 - 23:46 #41
Tassawuf was good only at the early stages. They forsook worldy items for a life of devotion and constant remembrance of Allah. However they slowly began to introduce new ideas and beliefs which are seen by many as contradictory to the Shariah, like dancing/whirling listening to music to get into a trance etc.
But regarding music there is a difference of opinion. some allow it, some don't. Most do.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
jeez....what y'all think of me eh?
yes ive been reading, very very very interesting - cant put it down
have you read any? you should do!
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
TOO complicated and deep
sufi books have pretty covers and catchy titles like "the fire of love"
but the info goes way over my head
the discuss love in a way I never looked at it before :?
get the one ive got
you'll be able to cope with that one
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
What's it called?
Sufism: A short introduction
William C. Chittick
it aint that short, but its very good - the author spent 13 years in Iran studying Sufism
bought it from Rumi Books - so i know its legit, and its V good
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
I'll add it to my Amazon wish list.![Biggrin](https://www.therevival.co.uk/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/biggrin.gif)
I think Love and Fear should go hand in hand. It stem from something that Hazrat Umar (ra) said
"If I heard a voice from heaven saying: O people! All will go to paradise except one person, on account of my fear of allah I would think that I was that person. And if I heard a voice from the heaven saying that all will be consigned to hell except one person, I would on account of my trust in allah mercy, think that I must be that person"
Also there a hadith that also mention something similar.
"If a believer knew about the punishment of allah swt then no one would desire for paradise and if a disbeliever knew about the mercy of allah then no one would become hopless from paradise"
Sorry no reference, got them from my tafseer.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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I just popped down to PaniPathar's and bought [url=http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1851682112.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg]it[/url].
It's very good.
But I was expecting pictures.
Anyway, I've read the chapter on zikr. Really clarifies things.
pictures? lol
im still on chapter 1 , but the explanation on thier perception of life, the sufi theory, sifi practices, the 3 domains of faith, doing the beauty....
its amazin :shock:
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Sufi's. Aint they the guys who do the weird dancing stuff and totally lose themselves so that they've lost the plot while spinning around and their eyes wandering all over the place?
The media, government, tried to blow us, but they can't out the flame, or doubt the name.
You need the book.
Tassawuf was good only at the early stages. They forsook worldy items for a life of devotion and constant remembrance of Allah. However they slowly began to introduce new ideas and beliefs which are seen by many as contradictory to the Shariah, like dancing/whirling listening to music to get into a trance etc.
Tassawuf is a concept. It is the same as before.
I take it you mean sufi's?
well as always good, and bad.
But regarding music there is a difference of opinion. some allow it, some don't. Most do.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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