so all this did not actually help me. i did not manage to get anywhere the topic, she just asked other stuff which i tried to explain but she may not have understood properly :S.
Therefore i have decided that its best to just leave her alone, untill she really looks at Islam on herself when she wants to anything i say i doubt will benefit her.
anyway thanks for the help!
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by Seraphim on 25 January, 2009 - 13:43 #32
I dont suppose shes ever considered that maybe something that she did not like is really in your interest. And its possible that the thing that she desires may actually be against her interest?
I dont suppose shes ever considered that maybe something that she did not like is really in your interest. And its possible that the thing that she desires may actually be against her interest?
erm if i've understood that properly, i dont think it is against her interest.
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by The Lamp on 26 January, 2009 - 12:25 #34
But isn't her desire against her interest?
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“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
Submitted by Seraphim on 26 January, 2009 - 15:05 #35
o erm ok :S thank you The lamp, seraphim iv told u im not clever! i thought u mean interest as in something she wants to do but obviously that would be the desire :roll: ... o well
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Parents
sometimes they make crap choices
sometimes they dont
ermmmm
uni is a good place
how about the ISOC
they could do something
and like someone mentioned in a post above, if they wanna get to know each other, then make sure theres always someone with them so things dont get naughty!
Submitted by Naz* (not verified) on 30 January, 2009 - 22:19 #38
1R4M wrote:
Parents
sometimes they make crap choices
sometimes they dont
ermmmm
uni is a good place how about the ISOC
they could do something
and like someone mentioned in a post above, if they wanna get to know each other, then make sure theres always someone with them so things dont get naughty!
As long as its not used as a dating service... but if itleads to a situation where you find someone you want to marry, then its all good IMO.
With the old was of parentally arranged marriages (slowly?) going out of the window, there need to be good alternatives - I do not think matchmaking sites etc should become the norm, but a extreme.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Ya'qub on 30 January, 2009 - 23:04 #41
Naz* wrote:
1R4M wrote:
Parents
sometimes they make crap choices
sometimes they dont
ermmmm
uni is a good place how about the ISOC
they could do something
and like someone mentioned in a post above, if they wanna get to know each other, then make sure theres always someone with them so things dont get naughty!
You are jokin right?
Isnt' that the WHOLE POINT of an ISOC (apart from bringing about the re-establishment of the Caliphate)?!
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by xSmurfy786x on 31 January, 2009 - 02:01 #42
why dont we just make it all easier for ourselves and go onto shaadionlinee.com
ull find the 'ideal' 10th century partner there!
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If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
Submitted by MuslimBro on 31 January, 2009 - 03:41 #43
1R4M wrote:
wait
ISOC is the oxford one isnt it???
OOPS!
ok
I meant uni islamic society
of anywhere!
ISoc means Islamic Society.
Where did you get Oxford from?
Submitted by Fateha 6 on 31 January, 2009 - 13:28 #44
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
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Ur Muslim Sister
Submitted by Omrow on 31 January, 2009 - 13:44 #45
Salam
Good question Miss Power.
This is what I think:
Good women have the ability to to find a perfect man to be their husband.
You dont have to sleep with anyone to find out what his personality is really like.
That act would only reveal the nature of his other brain.
In fact, that misdeed only tells you what organ he uses for thinking.
Good ladies know exactly what they are looking for.
This knowledge should help them cut the chase, and get straight to the heart of the matter.
They are quite intelligent.
Therefore, they dont HAVE to go out with a man and spend long hours in dark corners.
All that they would really NEED is a few hours to fathom his soul.
Now do you see what I mean? Women do have the power.
ISOC seems to be a popular acronym for many things. "International Society" being one.
PS Following the lead from Manchester, the Oxford one would be called ISOO or ISOX the Cambridge one would be called ISOC.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Hey Omrow! i thought u had disappeared somewhere!Thanks for the comment erm i may read that blog but from the http it sounds like i may waste my time on it? lol
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by Naz* (not verified) on 31 January, 2009 - 17:12 #49
1R4M wrote:
whats so bad about that?!
asking them to find someone
when ur ready to ge married
ppl do it all the time
wait
ISOC is the oxford one isnt it???
OOPS!
ok
I meant uni islamic society
of anywhere!
IMO i dont think they are they best ppl to turn to when finding a life partner for the obvious reason they dont know you. Your better off with family and friends.
Submitted by Naz* (not verified) on 31 January, 2009 - 17:13 #50
Omrow wrote:
Salam
Good question Miss Power.
This is what I think:
Good women have the ability to to find a perfect man to be their husband.
You dont have to sleep with anyone to find out what his personality is really like.
That act would only reveal the nature of his other brain.
In fact, that misdeed only tells you what organ he uses for thinking.
Good ladies know exactly what they are looking for.
This knowledge should help them cut the chase, and get straight to the heart of the matter.
They are quite intelligent.
Therefore, they dont HAVE to go out with a man and spend long hours in dark corners.
All that they would really NEED is a few hours to fathom his soul.
Now do you see what I mean? Women do have the power.
Good ladies know exactly what they are looking for.
?? if not i dnt see the relevance of it :/ :S
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by Seraphim on 5 February, 2009 - 16:25 #52
Fateha 6 wrote:
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
Ofcourse theres something wrong with it. He could be psycho murderer for all she knows. Best to take someone with you (or atleast tell him such and such a person knows where she is) just so he has an incentive to keep things kosher.
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
Ofcourse theres something wrong with it. He could be psycho murderer for all she knows. Best to take someone with you (or atleast tell him such and such a person knows where she is) just so he has an incentive to keep things kosher.
Can u be alone with the guy?
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by Seraphim on 5 February, 2009 - 16:31 #54
ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Fateha 6 wrote:
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
Ofcourse theres something wrong with it. He could be psycho murderer for all she knows. Best to take someone with you (or atleast tell him such and such a person knows where she is) just so he has an incentive to keep things kosher.
Can u be alone with the guy?
No, that was what i was saying. Take someone with you, so he doesnt get too friendly.
lmao, i was just imagining what it would look like if you took your Grandma with you she'd take off her slipper and chuck it at the guy if he tried anything
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
Ofcourse theres something wrong with it. He could be psycho murderer for all she knows. Best to take someone with you (or atleast tell him such and such a person knows where she is) just so he has an incentive to keep things kosher.
Can u be alone with the guy?
No, that was what i was saying. Take someone with you, so he doesnt get too friendly.
lmao, i was just imagining what it would look like if you took your Grandma with you she'd take off her slipper and chuck it at the guy if he tried anything
Lol and all the insults and stuff old people come out with is FUNNY!
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by Ya'qub on 5 February, 2009 - 16:35 #56
Seraphim wrote:
Fateha 6 wrote:
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
Ofcourse theres something wrong with it. He could be psycho murderer for all she knows. Best to take someone with you (or atleast tell him such and such a person knows where she is) just so he has an incentive to keep things kosher.
What if he's a psycho murderer and then you marry him?!
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Seraphim on 5 February, 2009 - 16:38 #57
Ya'qub wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Fateha 6 wrote:
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
Ofcourse theres something wrong with it. He could be psycho murderer for all she knows. Best to take someone with you (or atleast tell him such and such a person knows where she is) just so he has an incentive to keep things kosher.
What if he's a psycho murderer and then you marry him?!
Going off into fantasy land is hardly the point of this thread.
If he is a psycho murderer she should be able to spot it... if not then maybe get used to writing letters to each other whilst he's in prison.
Going off into fantasy land is hardly the point of this thread.If he is a psycho murderer she should be able to spot it... if not then maybe get used to writing letters to each other whilst he's in prison.
Lol! how exactly would she be able to spot it? if he is a good enough criminal he would obviously cover his tracks!
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by Seraphim on 5 February, 2009 - 17:45 #59
ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Going off into fantasy land is hardly the point of this thread.If he is a psycho murderer she should be able to spot it... if not then maybe get used to writing letters to each other whilst he's in prison.
Lol! how exactly would she be able to spot it? if he is a good enough criminal he would obviously cover his tracks!
Criminals arent usually that clever tbh. They tend to get sloppy.
But thats neither here nor there... and we're going off topic.
salamz
so all this did not actually help me. i did not manage to get anywhere the topic, she just asked other stuff which i tried to explain but she may not have understood properly :S.
Therefore i have decided that its best to just leave her alone, untill she really looks at Islam on herself when she wants to anything i say i doubt will benefit her.
anyway thanks for the help!
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
I dont suppose shes ever considered that maybe something that she did not like is really in your interest. And its possible that the thing that she desires may actually be against her interest?
Back in BLACK
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
But isn't her desire against her interest?
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
exactly... thank you lampy.
Back in BLACK
o erm ok :S thank you The lamp, seraphim iv told u im not clever! i thought u mean interest as in something she wants to do but obviously that would be the desire :roll: ... o well
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Parents
sometimes they make crap choices
sometimes they dont
ermmmm
uni is a good place
how about the ISOC
they could do something
and like someone mentioned in a post above, if they wanna get to know each other, then make sure theres always someone with them so things dont get naughty!
You are jokin right?
whats so bad about that?!
asking them to find someone
when ur ready to ge married
ppl do it all the time
wait
ISOC is the oxford one isnt it???
OOPS!
ok
I meant uni islamic society
of anywhere!
As long as its not used as a dating service... but if itleads to a situation where you find someone you want to marry, then its all good IMO.
With the old was of parentally arranged marriages (slowly?) going out of the window, there need to be good alternatives - I do not think matchmaking sites etc should become the norm, but a extreme.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Isnt' that the WHOLE POINT of an ISOC (apart from bringing about the re-establishment of the Caliphate)?!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
why dont we just make it all easier for ourselves and go onto shaadionlinee.com
ull find the 'ideal' 10th century partner there!
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
ISoc means Islamic Society.
Where did you get Oxford from?
if u know he is the guy you are gonna marry, then in my personal opinion there is no wrong in getting to know him, but if she is going date guys to find the right one i am not so sure. ask her what she wants in life, that may help.
best of luck.
fateha xxx
Ur Muslim Sister
Salam
Good question Miss Power.
This is what I think:
Good women have the ability to to find a perfect man to be their husband.
You dont have to sleep with anyone to find out what his personality is really like.
That act would only reveal the nature of his other brain.
In fact, that misdeed only tells you what organ he uses for thinking.
Good ladies know exactly what they are looking for.
This knowledge should help them cut the chase, and get straight to the heart of the matter.
They are quite intelligent.
Therefore, they dont HAVE to go out with a man and spend long hours in dark corners.
All that they would really NEED is a few hours to fathom his soul.
Now do you see what I mean? Women do have the power.
Omrow
p.s. - you may also read this website:
http://sissymen.blogspot.com/
ermmm
im not sure
I thought it was an anacronym!
yu know
like the oxford one is ISOC
and...like the one in manchester was ISOM (Islamic Society Of Manchester_
I guess I was wrong!
ISOC seems to be a popular acronym for many things. "International Society" being one.
PS Following the lead from Manchester, the Oxford one would be called ISOO or ISOX the Cambridge one would be called ISOC.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
IMO i dont think they are they best ppl to turn to when finding a life partner for the obvious reason they dont know you. Your better off with family and friends.
MashAllah well said
was that meant to be for
?? if not i dnt see the relevance of it :/ :S"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Ofcourse theres something wrong with it. He could be psycho murderer for all she knows. Best to take someone with you (or atleast tell him such and such a person knows where she is) just so he has an incentive to keep things kosher.
Back in BLACK
Can u be alone with the guy?
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
No, that was what i was saying. Take someone with you, so he doesnt get too friendly.
lmao, i was just imagining what it would look like if you took your Grandma with you
she'd take off her slipper and chuck it at the guy if he tried anything 
Back in BLACK
Lol and all the insults and stuff old people come out with is FUNNY!
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
What if he's a psycho murderer and then you marry him?!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Going off into fantasy land is hardly the point of this thread.
If he is a psycho murderer she should be able to spot it... if not then maybe get used to writing letters to each other whilst he's in prison.
Back in BLACK
Lol! how exactly would she be able to spot it? if he is a good enough criminal he would obviously cover his tracks!
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Criminals arent usually that clever tbh. They tend to get sloppy.
But thats neither here nor there... and we're going off topic.
Back in BLACK
And its ur fault we're going off topic!
Okay people Back to the topic!...
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
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