Submitted by You on 27 September, 2008 - 23:42 #31
Seraphim wrote:
You wrote:
and I typed that twice!
Lol, tbh i have no opinon on the Christmas tree.
To me it serves no purpose other than being decorative.
you see, that is the difference. I see it as a part of a religious festival.
If I saw a christmas three (yes I spelt it wrong again - can't be botehred to correct this time - rather type this long diatribe...) in a house, I would automatically assume the owners were either christians or (young) descendants of christians (who found atheism to be "clever").
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Seraphim on 27 September, 2008 - 23:45 #32
You wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
You wrote:
and I typed that twice!
Lol, tbh i have no opinon on the Christmas tree.
To me it serves no purpose other than being decorative.
you see, that is the difference. I see it as a part of a religious festival.
If I saw a christmas three (yes I spelt it wrong again - can't be botehred to correct this time - rather type this long diatribe...) in a house, I would automatically assume the owners were either christians or (young) descendants of christians (who found atheism to be "clever").
As far as I can tell Christmas hasnt really been a religious holiday in a long time.
Its all too commercialised. Therefore baring this in mind; isnt the above just a moo point?
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Submitted by You on 27 September, 2008 - 23:48 #33
On Eid people go to Whimmy road and have done so for years. bearing this in mind, can we class eid as not a religious festival but only a social festival?
being commercial is not necessarily bad.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Seraphim on 27 September, 2008 - 23:54 #34
You wrote:
On Eid people go to Whimmy road and have done so for years. bearing this in mind, can we class eid as not a religious festival but only a social festival?
being commercial is not necessarily bad.
Yes but Christmas being commercial is a worldwide phenomenon ... and as far as im aware going to Wimmy isnt.
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Submitted by You on 28 September, 2008 - 00:46 #35
Seraphim wrote:
You wrote:
On Eid people go to Whimmy road and have done so for years. bearing this in mind, can we class eid as not a religious festival but only a social festival?
being commercial is not necessarily bad.
Yes but Christmas being commercial is a worldwide phenomenon ... and as far as im aware going to Wimmy isnt.
Semantics. different people around the world do different non-religious things on Eid. A lot of the activity may even be considered commercial.
Ofcourse, that does not mean the actuivity is not allowed - nor does it make Eid a non-religious festival. Same with Christmas.
(and by "world" I assume you mean the US and its lackey.)
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by You on 28 September, 2008 - 00:53 #36
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Naz on 29 September, 2008 - 17:32 #37
You wrote:
Naz wrote:
I can see why it might feel wrong because were told not to imitate the non believers but, think of all the money your saving by buying just one present instead of many.
Aint no one getting a present from me this year. Maybe next year when im a bit richer.
This may be a good question to put in the mag for next issue. "Yo Mister Shaykh, wanna be my secret santa?"
Definitely
Seraphim wrote:
You wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
I don't understand what the harm is in playing Secret Santa?
copying rituals originally used as part of non-islamic religious festivals?
on a similar note, what is your opinion on having a christmas three?
But whats wrong with the act of giving gifts? Just bcoz ppl from different faiths do it too, doesnt mean it should automatically be made haraam... or bidah.
Plus i hav no idea what you mean by Christmas Three
Its not so much about giving the gift but looking to see where such a practice originated from. Secret santa is a tradition that has been practiced by the non muslims for a no. of years. Just because we change the name doesnt mean to say its then ok to particpate in such a custom. Its still doing something which the non believers do. If that makes any sense.
Putting a xmas tree is wrong full stop. My dads friend is a very devote muslim, been ummrah, hajj, spends most of his time in the mosque, prays all his 5 prayers. His kids who are all in their 30s, married and some even have kids always put up an xmas tree :shock: . If they were lil kids i could maybe understand but they are grown men and women! He doesnt approve and tells them not to do it but they dont listen to him.
I'm gonna be leading the first ever Eid class assembly my BNP school has ever seen.
Pretty excited about it...I think I'm going to dress up, show a power point presentation, play some nasheeds...
Already the teachers are buzzing with questions..
Is Mecca in India?
Whats Zaka? (I assumed she was teaching a Geography lesson - so I told her 'zaka' sounds like an exotic fruit)
Kids are equally excited...some are suffering from an identity crisis.
I have to remind the likes of Louise* and Joshua* every day, that they are NOT Muslims.
Submitted by Noor on 29 September, 2008 - 18:09 #39
saudi doing eid tomorrow
Submitted by Seraphim on 29 September, 2008 - 18:20 #40
MuslimSister wrote:
I have to remind the likes of Louise* and Joshua* every day, that they are NOT Muslims.
lol, they wish they were that cool.
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Submitted by Naz on 29 September, 2008 - 18:27 #41
Noor wrote:
saudi doing eid tomorrow
Yeah just heard. Noooooo. Oh well sod it im still doing mine on wednesday. I am my own molvi :badgrin:
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Submitted by Seraphim on 29 September, 2008 - 18:37 #42
Naz wrote:
Noor wrote:
saudi doing eid tomorrow
Yeah just heard. Noooooo. Oh well sod it im still doing mine on wednesday. I am my own molvi :badgrin:
Lol, you got a beard and a hat to go with, do you?
Ever get confused for a guy?
:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
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Submitted by Naz* (not verified) on 29 September, 2008 - 18:46 #43
Seraphim wrote:
Naz wrote:
Noor wrote:
saudi doing eid tomorrow
Yeah just heard. Noooooo. Oh well sod it im still doing mine on wednesday. I am my own molvi :badgrin:
Lol, you got a beard and a hat to go with, do you?
Ever get confused for a guy?
:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
You cheeky sod lol
I didnt want to resort to using this but you left me with no choice.
Eid Mubarak everyone
Submitted by Angelic (not verified) on 29 September, 2008 - 19:17 #44
so everyone doing Eid on weds?
I dont know about us, at work so going to find out when i get home.
I wish its weds, got a million things to do!!
Submitted by wednesday here (not verified) on 29 September, 2008 - 20:27 #45
As-salaam,
EID MUBARAK
MAKE SURE YOU ENJOY YOUR DAYS!
Wasalaam.
Submitted by Noor on 29 September, 2008 - 20:51 #46
we're doing it on wednesday
Submitted by Anonymous11 (not verified) on 29 September, 2008 - 22:22 #47
Noor wrote:
we're doing it on wednesday
alhumdulillah people celebrating it on the right day!
Submitted by Seraphim on 29 September, 2008 - 22:32 #48
Naz* wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Naz wrote:
Noor wrote:
saudi doing eid tomorrow
Yeah just heard. Noooooo. Oh well sod it im still doing mine on wednesday. I am my own molvi :badgrin:
Lol, you got a beard and a hat to go with, do you?
Ever get confused for a guy?
:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
You cheeky sod lol
I didnt want to resort to using this but you left me with no choice.
Eid Mubarak everyone
Mwhahahahahhaha
Evil does as evil does
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Submitted by Seraphim on 29 September, 2008 - 22:32 #49
We're doing Eid on Wednesday, so thats a full 30 Fasts!! Wooohooo sweetness!
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Submitted by xSmurfy786x on 30 September, 2008 - 00:59 #50
Wednesday
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If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
Submitted by Seraphim on 30 September, 2008 - 11:33 #51
Seraphim >=P
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Submitted by Naz* (not verified) on 30 September, 2008 - 13:11 #52
Wednesday : )
Smurfy : )
Seraphim v :badgrin:
Mum, dad, big sis, lil bro and relatives are doing eid today.
Me, two of my other sisters and my other bro doing it tomoz
Submitted by Courage on 30 September, 2008 - 13:23 #53
Some mosques and some of my friends are doing it today (Tuesday) but I'm doing it on Wednesday. I'm probably not going to get the chance then, so Eid Mubarak!!!!!!! Serpah, Naz, Smurfy, Wednesday, Anonymus and everyone else, Eid Mubarak!!
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Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Submitted by Imaani on 30 September, 2008 - 14:13 #54
Salaam. Just wanted to wish everyone 'Eid Mubarak', whether you're doing it today or tomorrow (like me) hope you have a good one.
Some might think odd of me.........but i'll be working tomorrow (after I read my eid namaaz, ofcourse) and then i've got to drive down to bournemouth (about 4.5 hours journey time) in the early hours of the morning again for work purposes...............so while most of u are rejoicing and scoffing into the early hours.....think of me ..... anyhow, I wish Eid Mubarak to the forum (those celebrating either today or tomorrow)
Submitted by Funzo on 30 September, 2008 - 20:47 #56
eid mubarrak to one and all
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Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 October, 2008 - 17:07 #59
Eid in Syria involves lots of kids running around with toy guns.
...and I don't mean brightly coloured plastic ones, either.
Full-on assault rifles and double-barrled shotguns!
Masha'Allah, so peaceful and friendly...
My mum celebrated Eid with my fiance's family, alhamdulillah! Its not something I ever imagined would happen. Insha'Allah by next year she'll be celebrating it for real!
And Eid Mubarak to all you secret sheikhs out there.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
you see, that is the difference. I see it as a part of a religious festival.
If I saw a christmas three (yes I spelt it wrong again - can't be botehred to correct this time - rather type this long diatribe...) in a house, I would automatically assume the owners were either christians or (young) descendants of christians (who found atheism to be "clever").
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
As far as I can tell Christmas hasnt really been a religious holiday in a long time.
Its all too commercialised. Therefore baring this in mind; isnt the above just a moo point?
Back in BLACK
On Eid people go to Whimmy road and have done so for years. bearing this in mind, can we class eid as not a religious festival but only a social festival?
being commercial is not necessarily bad.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Yes but Christmas being commercial is a worldwide phenomenon ... and as far as im aware going to Wimmy isnt.
Back in BLACK
Semantics. different people around the world do different non-religious things on Eid. A lot of the activity may even be considered commercial.
Ofcourse, that does not mean the actuivity is not allowed - nor does it make Eid a non-religious festival. Same with Christmas.
(and by "world" I assume you mean the US and its lackey.)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
A similar questions answered in issue 7: http://www.therevival.co.uk/taking-part-non-islamic-festivals
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Definitely
Its not so much about giving the gift but looking to see where such a practice originated from. Secret santa is a tradition that has been practiced by the non muslims for a no. of years. Just because we change the name doesnt mean to say its then ok to particpate in such a custom. Its still doing something which the non believers do. If that makes any sense.
Putting a xmas tree is wrong full stop. My dads friend is a very devote muslim, been ummrah, hajj, spends most of his time in the mosque, prays all his 5 prayers. His kids who are all in their 30s, married and some even have kids always put up an xmas tree :shock: . If they were lil kids i could maybe understand but they are grown men and women! He doesnt approve and tells them not to do it but they dont listen to him.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
I'm gonna be leading the first ever Eid class assembly my BNP school has ever seen.
Pretty excited about it...I think I'm going to dress up, show a power point presentation, play some nasheeds...
Already the teachers are buzzing with questions..
Is Mecca in India?
Whats Zaka? (I assumed she was teaching a Geography lesson - so I told her 'zaka' sounds like an exotic fruit)
Kids are equally excited...some are suffering from an identity crisis.
I have to remind the likes of Louise* and Joshua* every day, that they are NOT Muslims.
saudi doing eid tomorrow
lol, they wish they were that cool.
Back in BLACK
Yeah just heard. Noooooo. Oh well sod it im still doing mine on wednesday. I am my own molvi :badgrin:
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Lol, you got a beard and a hat to go with, do you?
Ever get confused for a guy?
:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
Back in BLACK
You cheeky sod lol
I didnt want to resort to using this but you left me with no choice.
Eid Mubarak everyone
so everyone doing Eid on weds?
I dont know about us, at work so going to find out when i get home.
I wish its weds, got a million things to do!!
As-salaam,
EID MUBARAK
MAKE SURE YOU ENJOY YOUR DAYS!
Wasalaam.
we're doing it on wednesday
alhumdulillah people celebrating it on the right day!
Mwhahahahahhaha
Evil does as evil does
Back in BLACK
We're doing Eid on Wednesday, so thats a full 30 Fasts!! Wooohooo sweetness!
Back in BLACK
Wednesday
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
Seraphim >=P
Back in BLACK
Wednesday : )
Smurfy : )
Seraphim v :badgrin:
Mum, dad, big sis, lil bro and relatives are doing eid today.
Me, two of my other sisters and my other bro doing it tomoz
Some mosques and some of my friends are doing it today (Tuesday) but I'm doing it on Wednesday. I'm probably not going to get the chance then, so Eid Mubarak!!!!!!! Serpah, Naz, Smurfy, Wednesday, Anonymus and everyone else, Eid Mubarak!!
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Salaam. Just wanted to wish everyone 'Eid Mubarak', whether you're doing it today or tomorrow (like me) hope you have a good one.
Some might think odd of me.........but i'll be working tomorrow (after I read my eid namaaz, ofcourse) and then i've got to drive down to bournemouth (about 4.5 hours journey time) in the early hours of the morning again for work purposes...............so while most of u are rejoicing and scoffing into the early hours.....think of me ..... anyhow, I wish Eid Mubarak to the forum (those celebrating either today or tomorrow)
eid mubarrak to one and all
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Eid Mubarak!
Eid Mubarak everyone whos doin it today!
We did it yesterday, it was good, Alhamdulillah.
'Allah gives and forgives
Man gets and forgets' Baba Ali
http://halfDate.com
Eid in Syria involves lots of kids running around with toy guns.
...and I don't mean brightly coloured plastic ones, either.
Full-on assault rifles and double-barrled shotguns!
Masha'Allah, so peaceful and friendly...
My mum celebrated Eid with my fiance's family, alhamdulillah! Its not something I ever imagined would happen. Insha'Allah by next year she'll be celebrating it for real!
And Eid Mubarak to all you secret sheikhs out there.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Mashallah and inshallah.
PS When is/was eid in Syria?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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