Salaam

Once Imam Basri was bothered by his non Muslim neighbour, the non Muslims waste products used to fall in the house of Imam Basri, however Imam Basri used to make no comment to him and would clean up the mess daily…a year down the line the non Muslim was so impressed by the tolerance and patience of Imam Basri that he accepted Islam.

Another one of our pious predecessors Ibn Mubarak would not feed or clothe his own children until he had fed and clothed the children of his non Muslims neighbour.

We have numerous examples from the life of the Holy Prophet when he manifested patience, tolerance and compassion towards the non Muslims, even after they abused him and as a result they accepted Islam.

Wasalaam

In todays society its totally opposite, today if you drop one can of coke into someones garden you will get the whole re-cycling bin thrown back at you!

"Umar" wrote:

In todays society its totally opposite, today if you drop one can of coke into someones garden you will get the whole re-cycling bin thrown back at you!

certainly agree..

"Umar" wrote:

In todays society its totally opposite, today if you drop one can of coke into someones garden you will get the whole re-cycling bin thrown back at you!

Lol....in B'ham my cousins have this tiff with their next door neighbour ALL the time.

She wrongly accuses them of throwing rubbish in her garden so they retaliate by emptying out their bin in her garden..... :?

I think what we need in todays society is Islamic education in how to live like a muslim, we always here about praying, namaz and zakat but what good is all that if you can't be a good human and above all a good muslim? We here a lot of lectures and stories but never constructive courses or seminars on how to live and behave...

I think we should write up a course...call it something like "The manual on How to Live a Life" and give the course to every mosque so when they teach the children arabic they can tell them to do one thing a day to be a better person.....what do you think?

"Umar" wrote:

I think what we need in todays society is Islamic education in how to live like a muslim, we always here about praying, namaz and zakat but what good is all that if you can't be a good human and above all a good muslim? We here a lot of lectures and stories but never constructive courses or seminars on how to live and behave...

I think we should write up a course...call it something like "The manual on How to Live a Life" and give the course to every mosque so when they teach the children arabic they can tell them to do one thing a day to be a better person.....what do you think?

Yeh! gud idea bro..also i personally think the topic 'adab' (respect) covers all aspects of manners too, even the way u walk, talk, eat, act etc...

wen scholars,imams etc. giv lectures out in mosques they shuld also concentrate on givin more lectures out on 'adab'.

"Umar" wrote:

I think we should write up a course...call it something like "The manual on How to Live a Life" and give the course to every mosque so when they teach the children arabic they can tell them to do one thing a day to be a better person.....what do you think?

I SO agree with you.

Islam is not a religion-it is a way of life.

Sadly, our Mosques only focus on prayer and Arabic. Whilst this is important-however knowledge of Arabic grammar will not make us better Muslims.

We are told that the best Muslim is the one with the "Best Manners". I wish our Imams would focus on this more...

"MuslimSister" wrote:

We are told that the best Muslim is the one with the "Best Manners". I wish our Imams would focus on this more...

i wish they wuld focus more on the topic of respect (adab) i heard Shaykh ul Islam's lecture once n just luved the word since then.

Its just unbelievable hw much u can learn 4rm a one word topic n like i sed it just covers all parts of hw a human shuld act towards others.

"Mujahidah" wrote:

"MuslimSister" wrote:

We are told that the best Muslim is the one with the "Best Manners". I wish our Imams would focus on this more...

i wish they wuld focus more on the topic of respect (adab) i heard Shaykh ul Islam's lecture once n just luved the word since then.

Its just unbelievable hw much u can learn 4rm a one word topic n like i sed it just covers all parts of hw a human shuld act towards others.

"Adab" is a massive topic in itself. I too love this topic.

Abdullah Ibn Wahab (a student of Imam Malik) travelled from Egypt and spread the Fiqh of Imam Malik. He spent 19 years learning Manners from Imam Malik and spent only one year learning Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) from him.

He claimed that his only regret in life was that he had spent one year learning Fiqh which he should have spent learning Manners.

Knowledge is only part of Islam. Whereas Islam IS good manner.

"MuslimSister" wrote:

"Adab" is a massive topic in itself. I too love this topic.

Abdullah Ibn Wahab (a student of Imam Malik) travelled from Egypt and spread the Fiqh of Imam Malik. He spent 19 years learning Manners from Imam Malik and spent only one year learning Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) from him.

He claimed that his only regret in life was that he had spent one year learning Fiqh which he should have spent learning Manners.

Knowledge is only part of Islam. Whereas Islam IS good manner.

I remember this story too ..it was mentioned in the lecture of "Adab"

I think someone needs to make a start...I was thinking of setting up a website for children but wanted ideas and I think this would be the best idea by far....

I just hope the Revival Editor puts something in the next issue or even Admin or Ed could go around mosques locally and give breif lectures to Imams regarding what to teach children?

Honeslty when I go to a mosque and children are reading the quran I wonder what they are actually thinking when reading, do they know what they are reading is a holy book? The first thing they start off with is the Qaida, why not start them off with a short group talks on what they are to read? how to respect the Qaida when getting out of and into mosue...little things like that may seem little but its the foundation to building a good strong house...

imams dont listen to no one

if u want to preach Adab-get the works of scholars and hold study circles

or make a website

it pointless telling Imams what to do cos they dont listen

Salam

Everyone likes to think that what they possess is the Truth. This is human nature.

Very few people would give a thought to the possibility that they may be wrong.

As with any other major religion, and even sciences, people are free to believe in competing theories and interpretations.

Among muslims, there are also many different versions of Islam.

Wahhabis like Bin Laden promotes their own version.

It is up any researcher to study these versions and draw their own conclusions.

Omrow

HEY WHABIS ARE NOT LIKE THAT COLD BLOODED MURDERER :evil:

Who are whabi's (u always refer to them as that) it's wahabi's! :roll:

"Aphrodite" wrote:

"St George" wrote:

"Constantine" wrote:

lol I dunno whether to believe smiley face or evil face

i a law abiding citizen, emperor

u aint got nothin on me, officer

:twisted:

*cough*

oh...didnt see u there PC aphroditee... :?

i have an alibi for da night in question, constable…honest i do…

missy aph…r u one of those community coppers? i heard those glorified security guards get £25gs a year! i gonna aply for dat job…

any coffee on the go?

dis is off topic aint it…ok, i gonna contribute my insight…those with who maintain their manners and decency, even when insulted or provoked, r da best adverts for any faith...

:idea:

I think people shouldnt get big heads and think that they have the right to TELL imams/ulama what to do. Yes discuss with them but to tell them is a matter of arrogance and pride and unacceptable.

As far as the mosques I have come across kids are told to respect qaida, quran, ghilaf, pens, paper, pencils etc.

"Med" wrote:

I think people shouldnt get big heads and think that they have the right to TELL imams/ulama what to do. Yes discuss with them but to tell them is a matter of arrogance and pride and unacceptable.
.

Are Imam’s infallible? (I thought only shia’s believed this?)

Everyone has a right to respectfully tell the Imams what they should be doing and make suggestions from time to time...

Sounds like Shias are very similar to Catholics

Is it true Ayatollah translates to "miracle from God"

Salam

No. Ayatollah means a "Sign of God".

Only Shias have Ayatollahs.

An Ayatollah is to the Shias what Pope is to the Catholic Christians.

Both follow their leader to the letter, without question.

Omrow

1. I disagree we dont have the right to TELL the imam. We can discuss and make suggestions. Telling someone something implies superiority and the alim is no doubt superior to the abid.

2. Ayatullah is actually more like the cardinal. The Pope in shia myth is the hidden Imam, the saviour for all time who is currently in hiding. It is believed by the shia story-tellers that the grand Ayatullahs are in communion with the Hidden Infallible Imam and they act as per his instructions so they are the mouthpieces of the Infalibe one.

donnt think its a true story, but interesting nonethless

Several years ago an imaam moved to London. He oftentook the bus from his home to the downtown area. Someweeks after he arrived, he had occasion to ride thesame bus. When he sat down, he discovered that thedriver had accidentally given him twenty pence toomuch change. As he considered what to do, he thoughtto himself, 'you better give the twenty pence back. Itwould be wrong to keep it'.

Then he thought, 'oh forget it, it's only twenty
pence. Who would worry about this little amount?
Anyway, the bus company already gets too much fare;
they will never miss it. Accept it as a gift from
Almighty Allah and keep quiet'.

When his stop came, the Imaam paused momentarily at
the door, then he handed the twenty pence back to the driver and said:

"Here, you gave me
too much change."

The driver with a smile replied:

"Aren't you the new Imaam in this area? I have been
thinking lately about going to worship at your mosque.I just wanted to see what you would do if I gave you too much change."

When the Imaam stepped off the bus, his knees became weak and soft. He had to grab the nearest light pole and held for support, and looked up to the heavens and cried:

"Oh Allah, I almost sold Islam for twenty pence!"

Bottom-line: We may never see the impact our actions have on people... Sometimes we may be the only Islam a non-Muslim will see. Let us be an example for others to see. Be careful and be honest everyday, because you never know who is watching your actions.

O Allah! Guide us, make our intentions sincere,
accept our deeds, answer our prayers, and make us of
those who are patient

"khan" wrote:

i don't dress like a muslim - i wear the usual western jeans t-shirt etc,
i don't behave like a muslim should - i smoke, swear, sin,
i don't have a beard, - shave every couple of days, sometimes even go over it twice.
i don't have any symbols on me that shows my affiliation with islam.

funny thing happened to me last week, was smoking outside the place I work, and an irish guy asked for a cigarette, I only had one left in my pack and didn't wanna give it.

he then turns around and says.. ur a Muslim u shouldn't smoke.. which then developed into a fight.. wont go into it..

??

I still think today, why did he assume i was Muslim? my skin colour?

I think most non believers are like that, they automatically think ur a muslim if ur brown (obviously they never paid attention in their R.S. lessons). In situations like this you can tell which are the educated ones and which aint.

[size=18]Many 'less positive about Islam' [/size]

A fifth of people polled by the BBC say they feel less positive about Islam since the London bombings.

More than a third said they had no understanding of Islam - but three-quarters said their views had not been changed by the suicide attacks.

When asked if they felt more or less positive towards Islam since the 7 July bombings, 73% said it had made no difference to their views - but 19% said they now felt less positive.

Broken down by religious belief, the two groups showing the least positive feelings towards Islam were Jews and Sikhs.

However, approximately a third of Jews and Christians interviewed said they generally had "positive" views of Islam.

About 35% of all people said they did not understand anything about Islam as a faith, although similar or higher numbers of people said the same about other faiths.

While many policy makers remain concerned about dialogue between Jews and Muslims, the poll suggests that contacts between the two faiths are haphazard.

Jews were found in interviews to be the least likely to know anything about Islam - while 37% of Muslims said they knew nothing about Judaism. Significantly, 31% of Jews said they knew nothing about their own faith, indicating people born into Jewish families but having chosen not to follow the faith.

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