Submitted by Imaani on 18 December, 2007 - 23:11 #31
I thought this episode was better, but still there was so much strange stuff in it like the swimming bit, and the niqab bit. I think even I would have felt uncomfortable about some of that. I too couldn't understand the reasons behind that other than entertainment value. It was just throwing people in at the deep end before they even had an understanding of the basic stuff. I was looking forward to it when they said they were going to try to highlight the high status of women in islam and they did that by telling the women to wear niqab, which I don't think was the best way at all.
The comments of that taxi driver re. asylum seekers was frightening, soooo many people think like that! And the arrogance and ignorance displayed by some of the public is just so shocking and disheartening. And shows like this don't really do much about it.
The end show was alright, but in this climate I don't think alright is good enough at all. Islam still came across as strange and extreme so not what it really is. Therefore this show has probably just caused more confusion.
Submitted by Ya'qub on 18 December, 2007 - 23:15 #32
having only seen the 1st episode, i have to say it felt like it was made by the same production team as 'wife-swap'
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Imaani on 18 December, 2007 - 23:18 #33
The 2nd and 3rd weren't much different unfortunately.
as imam shafi said (rough translation):
Islam without tasawwuf is incomplete
Tassawuf without islam is misguidance
The combination of the two is complete Islam
So u cant deny tasawuf but u cant just follow tasawuf and ignore othere tenents of islam.
It was Imam Malik r.a who said:
"whoever studies Jurisprudence [tafaqaha] and didn't study Sufism [tasawwaf] will be corrupted; and whoever studied Sufism and didn't study Jurisprudence will become a heretic; and whoever combined both will reach the Truth."
['Ali al-Adawi , vol. 2, p 195.]
Imam Shafi'i r.a said:
"I accompanied the Sufi people and I received from them three knowledges: ...how to speak; how to treat people with leniency and a soft heart... and they... guided me in the ways of Sufism."
[Kashf al-Khafa, 'Ajluni, vol. 1, p 341.]
Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal r.a said:
"O my son, you have to sit with the People of Sufism, because they are like a fountain of knowledge and they keep the Remembrance of Allah in their hearts. they are the ascetics and they have the most spiritual power."
[Tanwir al-Qulub p. 405]
Imam Ghazzali r.a:
"I knew verily that Sufis are the seekers in Allah's Way, and their conduct is the best conduct, and their way is the best way, and their manners are the most sanctified. They have cleaned their hearts from other than Allah and they have made them as pathways for rivers to run receiving knowledge of the Divine Presence."
[al-Munqidh, p. 131].
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Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
I thought this episode was better, but still there was so much strange stuff in it like the swimming bit, and the niqab bit. I think even I would have felt uncomfortable about some of that. I too couldn't understand the reasons behind that other than entertainment value. It was just throwing people in at the deep end before they even had an understanding of the basic stuff. I was looking forward to it when they said they were going to try to highlight the high status of women in islam and they did that by telling the women to wear niqab, which I don't think was the best way at all.
The comments of that taxi driver re. asylum seekers was frightening, soooo many people think like that! And the arrogance and ignorance displayed by some of the public is just so shocking and disheartening. And shows like this don't really do much about it.
The end show was alright, but in this climate I don't think alright is good enough at all. Islam still came across as strange and extreme so not what it really is. Therefore this show has probably just caused more confusion.
having only seen the 1st episode, i have to say it felt like it was made by the same production team as 'wife-swap'
Don't just do something! Stand there.
The 2nd and 3rd weren't much different unfortunately.
It was Imam Malik r.a who said:
"whoever studies Jurisprudence [tafaqaha] and didn't study Sufism [tasawwaf] will be corrupted; and whoever studied Sufism and didn't study Jurisprudence will become a heretic; and whoever combined both will reach the Truth."
['Ali al-Adawi , vol. 2, p 195.]
Imam Shafi'i r.a said:
"I accompanied the Sufi people and I received from them three knowledges: ...how to speak; how to treat people with leniency and a soft heart... and they... guided me in the ways of Sufism."
[Kashf al-Khafa, 'Ajluni, vol. 1, p 341.]
Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal r.a said:
"O my son, you have to sit with the People of Sufism, because they are like a fountain of knowledge and they keep the Remembrance of Allah in their hearts. they are the ascetics and they have the most spiritual power."
[Tanwir al-Qulub p. 405]
Imam Ghazzali r.a:
"I knew verily that Sufis are the seekers in Allah's Way, and their conduct is the best conduct, and their way is the best way, and their manners are the most sanctified. They have cleaned their hearts from other than Allah and they have made them as pathways for rivers to run receiving knowledge of the Divine Presence."
[al-Munqidh, p. 131].
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
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