Shes a joke, the program was a joke, the bbc representation of pakistan is a joke and anyone who thought it was honestly good is a joke. Its like getting a member of the kkk to talk about black oppression, it was that stupid.

"Irfan.khan" wrote:

...Its like getting a member of the kkk to talk about black oppression...

I would (maybe) watch that...

"You" wrote:

"Irfan.khan" wrote:

...Its like getting a member of the kkk to talk about black oppression...

I would (maybe) watch that...

LOL, the program was not all bad. We got to see a lot of different places of pakistan, the beauty of its scenery etc.

But, unfortunatly there was a lot of misrepresentation, sheisnt the smartest woman alive, so she can be forgiven for somemajor mistakes made in the program.

@ Beast, cultural nuances are infact correct, but we live in a multicultural society, so people of other cultures copy things.

If a member of BNP comes out one day n in a public speech says "silly pakis" we will all be offended, but that member may well say, well im jus quoting what pakistani people say to each other with no offense taken.

Would one agree then that to save face, we must not call eachother by names which may cause offense when said by others.

"razor" wrote:

@ Beast, cultural nuances are infact correct, but we live in a multicultural society, so people of other cultures copy things.

If a member of BNP comes out one day n in a public speech says "silly pakis" we will all be offended, but that member may well say, well im jus quoting what pakistani people say to each other with no offense taken.

Would one agree then that to save face, we must not call eachother by names which may cause offense when said by others.

Ideally, people shouldn't characterise anyone's faults with reference to their ethnic, religious or racial background. But I don't where

But in the case of the "n" word people make the case that if black people use it about each other then it takes away the offensiveness. On other hand it is also used by black people to put down other black people who maybe seen to be lazy or stupid. But non-black people should know that if they use it then they are causing offence. I don't make the rules.

In your example of a BNP member, this person is most likely to be racist anyway. I don't think he or she can credibly make the case that they heard a Pakistani say it so that's why they are saying it. However, if a person who not otherwise racist hears a Pakistani person say "paki" and then repeats it, they may be doing it not knowing that it is an offensive term if terms used in the wrong context. Once they realise they have caused offence they would most likely apologise for the offence.

But yeah, people should really refrain from using either term anyway.