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Well if you don't make it clear you condemn the boiling liquids poured and you say I don't feel for that person then you are inviting my wrath as I feel more awake then usual today.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
1. You didn't read my post properly and quoted only a small part.
2. You laboured under the impression that I was mistaken about Barot's crime, which you could easily have researched.
3. I forgive you.
[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
You still said 'I don't feel for him' and did not condemn the people responsible.
I did not hint that you were mistaken I said 'How do you know he was trying to plant a bomb??? Does it say it in the article?' Does that mean I am saying that you are mistaken???
Thank you very much and I also forgive you.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Not good enough. You insulted me. I objected. You challenged me. I clarified. You brought up a cheap, off-topic vote-winner on which we disagree, comparing Barot to kidnapped Israeli troops, and challenged my understanding of Barot's crime. I provided a source. You wormed out of backing down by complaining that I didn't recite the history of the world in my original post. I'm giving you every opportunity to acknowledge this, or we can leave it there. And I don't feel for Barot.
You said you were in a bad mood earlier. What's up?
[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
He did not do anything. He does not need to condemn the action.
We are going into a world of trivial opposition.
For that matter I am not really sympathetic with the guy either. Maybe I should be. but there are more than 6 billion people in the world.
You can only be sympathetic if you know about a person, his story, his situation. Otherwise it is fake.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
And so it continues.....
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
We don't really know his situation but what I am seeing of front of me invites my sympathy and I think that we all should be sympathetic as having boiling hot oil poured over your back and still not being provided with medical attention should surely be condemned no matter what the victim did. Torture is a breach of human rights and should be condemned as often as possible.
Come on people, whats wrong with you!
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
not if you don't continue it!
The Prophet said "I guarantee a house on the outskirts of Paradise to one who refrains from argument, even if he is right" (Abu Daud)
Don't just do something! Stand there.
I find that quite difficult, I have always been an excellent debater and I predict that I would turn out as a good politician :wink:, I will have to try to get a house in paradise using other means.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
ok, here's the rest of the hadith as a starter! :
"I guarantee a house in the centre of Paradise for one who forsakes lying, even when he is joking; and a house in the highest part of Paradise for one whose manners are good." (Abu Daud)
Don't just do something! Stand there.
You love using sarcasm don't you :roll: .
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
And I shall debate within these limits Insh'allah however there is another Hadith:
“He who amongst you sees something abominable should modify it with the help of his hand; and if he has not strength enough to do it, then he should do it with his tongue, and if he has not strength enough to do it, (even) then he should (abhor it) from his heart, and that is the least of faith.”
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 1, #79
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
well you've already done the second one of those so you've fulfilled ur obligation...constantly repeating urself over and over again will not make people all of a sudden agree with you. U have very good intentions, but, i think now everyone knows where u stand. Maybe it would be best to leave the debate because there not much new to say on the issue.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Allow people to disagree. We are not though nazi's.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
...yet!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Disagree if you want. I think I have made my points clear enough.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Sleep on it.
[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
fair enough. But if you keep on repeating them, you sound petulant. Sometimes it is needed, but in others, it is best once you have made you case to just stop.
You may be right. But people have their own minds.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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