Schools allowed to ban face veils

Sajid Iqbal

[quote][b]Schools allowed to ban face veils[/b]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6466221.stm

Schools will be able to ban pupils from wearing full-face veils on security, safety or learning grounds under new uniforms guidance issued by ministers.

It says efforts must be made to accommodate religious clothing, but stresses the importance of teachers and pupils being able to make eye contact.

It comes after a girl failed in a legal bid to overturn her school's niqab ban.

Islamic groups have been divided in their response - some "shocked" and others welcoming the guidance.

Headteachers' leaders have applauded the decision, saying that it would provide "clarity" and "reassurance" for schools.

The issue of religious dress has become an increasingly complicated one for schools in recent years, with a handful of high profile court cases over the right to wear a full veil.

A court victory by a Buckinghamshire school (which cannot be named for legal reasons) has prompted the updated guidance.

The school argued the veil made communication between teachers and pupils difficult and thus hampered learning.

Teachers needed to be able to tell if a pupil was enthusiastic, paying attention or even distressed but full-face veils prevented this, it said.

This position was upheld by the High Court - which refused to grant a judicial review - and is expected to form a key part of the guidance.

'Consult parents'

The guidance says schools need to be able to identify individual pupils in order to maintain good order and spot intruders.

Jim Knight
Schools Minister Jim Knight says "learning must take precedence"

"If a pupil's face is obscured for any reason the teacher may not be able to judge their engagement with learning or secure their participation in discussions and practical activities," it adds.

Schools minister Jim Knight said: "Schools should consult parents and the wider community when setting uniform policy.

"And while they should make every effort to accommodate social, religious or medical requirements of individual pupils, the needs of safety, security and effective learning in the school must always take precedence."

The head teacher of the Buckinghamshire school, who also cannot be named, said it would be very useful to have some clear guidance from the Department for Education and Skills (DfES).

"It's not right that schools should have to be arguing this out case by case," she told the BBC News website.

"Obviously there's a trade-off between schools retaining autonomy over school uniform decisions, on the other hand we will have some very clear guidance from the DfES within which to work."

'Dismayed'

There were divided responses from the Muslim community.

The chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, Massoud Shadjareh, said he was "dismayed" by the DfES guidance.

Pupils wearing veils
The guidance has divided opinion within the Muslim community

"Successive ministers dealing with education issues have failed to give proper guidance when requested by human rights campaigners about schools' obligations regarding religious dress, including the head scarf.

"To now proceed to issue guidance against Muslim communities is simply shocking," he said.

But the Muslim Council of Britain's education spokesman, Tahir Alam, said that the new guidance did not "alter the position very much" and said "the vast majority of schools are able to solve these issues locally".

Dr Tag Hargey of the Muslim Education Centre welcomed the guidance.

"When you conceal the face, that actually not only dehumanises the person involved, but also creates a chasm, a gap, a bridge of non-understanding between communities and I think the sooner we can get rid of this veil, this face veiling, this face masking in Muslim societies across Britain, so much the better."

'Equality issue'

Ayshah Ishmael, a teacher at a Muslim girls' school in Preston who wears the niqab away from the classroom, told the BBC wearing the veil promoted equality.

She said: "You're judged for who you are and not what you are, so I think there are two arguments to the whole equality issue."

The DfES said it was not ordering or advising head teachers to ban the veil, simply confirming that they have the ability to do so if they wish, so long as they carry out proper consultation.

Association of School and College Leaders' general secretary Dr John Dunford said he was pleased the government is supporting school leaders in upholding school uniforms.

"Repeated and blatant breaches of uniform policy undermine the school ethos," he added.[/quote]
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pls have your say

I dont think niqab should be banned in public life but in schools, the school uniform should be followed, so I have no problems with the ban. Also covering your face is a big no- no in this society. I can honestly see it from the teachers point of view...ie not allow niqab if its security and/or learning obstacle...
the alternative is girls only schools, Islamic schools etc....

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MuslimSister — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 - 20:40

[quote="Admin"]I assume most of that is for primary school level?[/quote]

Yes.

And I know it would bother me if the girls in my class wore a Niqab.

But..at the same time, whilst I don't hold the opinion that the Niqab restricts teaching at high school level...I believe that as part of the Uniform policy, schools have a right to ban the Niqab if they wish.

*DUST* — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 - 20:47

an 8 yr old wearing niqaab is messed up. :? it's as bad as an 8 yr old in a miniskirt/tank top etc. kids should not be made to mimic adults - they should have a [i]childhood[/i] for crying out loud!

lilsis/muslimsis as far as i know this 'ban' in schools is relating to secondary schooling so i don't see it being an issue for primary children. except ofcourse in cases relating to the primary school teachers e.g. aisha azmi.

100, having not had much contact with a niqaabi, are you really in a position to be making such judgemental remarks?

MuslimSister — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 - 20:49

The ban should be stressed more so in primary schools.

Cos thats where the main issue lies (in regards to restricting teaching etc)...and thats where girls are starting to wear the Niqab too. :?

*DUST* — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 - 20:55

i have never seen a child in niqaab. if i did i'd go and have a word with the mom. i was of the impression that its just not an issue among children, rather it was an issue among primary school teachers.

MuslimSister — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 - 20:57

[quote="*DUST*"]. i was of the impression that its just not an issue among children, rather it was an issue among primary school teachers.[/quote]

More so with teachers (I've been told that I cant wear the Niqab in schools).

However, children are beginning to do so as well....I have a feeling that its more of a novelty thing (playing dress up) encouraged by the parents...cos all the children I know are part time Niqabi's.