Is Guantanamo today's Auschwitz?
Is the Gaza Strip today’s Auschwitz?
Parallels can be drawn with the Nazi prison camps and Guantanamo.
We are, today seeing the persecution of Muslims. When a people are persecuted, they are alone. Nobody aids them. Look ate the Jewish people of Germany in the 1930s. The enslavement of blacks in America (and elsewhere) for the last 300 hundred years.
The Americans we’re involved in WW2, whether by the Japanese or (some people believe) coercion. They defeated the Nazis with the allies.
The blacks of America took their rights, through Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Jesse Jackson, Rosa Parks, etc
It’s only through Palestinian spirit that these people have not been wiped from earth. They could leave and be within their rights to do so. Seek refuge elsewhere, instead of watching their mother’s being torn to shreds by bombs.
No other race has ever known humiliation like the Palestinians. If I ever have the pleasure of meeting one, I could never look him in the eye. I’d have to kiss his hands and ask for his forgiveness.
Anyway what do you people think?
Is Guantanamo today's Auschwitz?
Is the Gaza Strip today’s Auschwitz?
No it isn't.
Salam
Guantanamo is not Auschwitz.
To compare it is to belittle the murder of Jewish men, women and children by the Nazis.
Omrow
no
no one's died in guantanamo.
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
As far as you know...
Lets face it we dont know everything that goes on in that hell hole. For all we know its really just a normal prison with people sat around playing cards.
All i know is a recent article in the paper that said that the inmates of Guantanamo were getting fat due to having plenty to eat and little to no exercise (unless you count the "non-existant" torture).
Back in BLACK
there was movie about guantanamo and it was well scary in some parts.
the prisoners say they were tortured
i wouldn't mind, as long as i got food.
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
i can see how you can come to that comparison
as both auschwitz and guantanamo
people were/are held without trial, treated inhumanely, tortured, no rights ect ect
however muslims have been treated like jews were back in nazi germany, in kosovo where the genocide of muslims took place, in chechnya , kashmir, iraq , lebanon innocent muslims are murdered , prosecuted , tortured and many civil rights are violated
not to mention ISRAELI ATROCITIES
people have died in guantanamo it was sed they 'comitted suicide'
but somethings are worse than death, imagine being locked up for the rest of your life not being through a trial and not knowing if your ever gonna be freed, never seeing your family again, then being tortured and humiliated ect ect
If any other country apart from america had a gauntanamo bay and any other people apart from muslims were held there, it would be closed straight away, but since its america and since they are muslim prisoners , no one cares not even muslim countries who continue to be allies to america and trade with em
I am not saying the [color=blue]amount[/color] Jewish people dying in Germany/Europe and Auschwitz reflect the[color=blue] amount [/color]of people dying in [color=red]just[/color] Guantanamo.
[color=darkred]It’s not about numbers[/color], but if you want to compare, then Afghanistan, Chechnya, Iraq, etc.
Jewish people were [color=blue]‘tagged and bagged’[/color]. [color=blue]Yellow stars [/color]were sewn on their clothes and thrown in prison for being Jewish.
The people in Guantanamo are in there because they are Muslim. No trial has been given them; hence they are not ‘proven terrorists’. Wrong place, wrong time, wrong beard length etc. [color=blue]‘Bagged and tagged’[/color]
The ideology behind Guantanamo and Auschwitz. Are they similiar?
Two men on a plane from somewhere in Europe flying back to the UK told to get off for suspected terrorism. A MP says Muslims travelling should get a letter of commendation from a pier of society, when they travel. [color=blue]I’m the only one who thinks this is the ‘yellow star’?[/color]
He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!
It is an offensive and tenuous comparison.
Maybe you could rephrase your complaints and consider what are the ugly parts, including the sly bits. Also, considering how many more Muslims there are than Jews, you might like to consider why the number who perished in the holocaust being so overwhelmingly greater invalidates your comparison. I am not going to hang around on this thread pushing the obvious, but I have been conspicuous by my absence. Many thanks to other posters who gave a straight answer.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
100,
There are no [color=blue]sly[/color] bits. [color=red]Read what I have written[/color].
History shows nobody aids the oppressed. Like the Jewish people under Pharaoh or Hitler, like the blacks in the slave trade or America.
I said I am [color=blue]not comparing numbers[/color]. If you read the post previous, like you expect others to read your posts and not respond in spite or speed, indeed you would have realised.
You don’t want people here to read your posts and think you’re aggravating them. Even though (from what I’ve read) people do so, just because you’re Jewish and ‘supposedly’ an enemy of Islam. I expect the same.
I’m comparing the treatment of Muslims today as that of Jewish people and Black people in past. Auschwitz is Guantanamo. People aren’t heinously murdered there but are tortured. I know which one I would prefer.
Just because there are more Muslims does not lessen the plight we have. 7 Million Great Jewish people perishing in Germany 1930s and 7 Million Great Muslim people perishing today is the same. It is 7 Million lives each. Ratios are irrelevant.
I had not noticed you being conspicuous in your absence as by no means was this thread intended to incite your feelings. You do have a right to comment on Islamic affairs and you use that. I have a right to compare our suffering to ones before.
He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!
That's what you did. I don't presume ill-will on your part.
If your point is that you are against racist generalisations and people should be careful not to align themselves with injustice against Muslims as a whole, that is a point I support, but Auschwitz is not Guantanemo or Gaza. That is such a hyped up and inaccurate comparison you should be ashamed.
I said I won't hang around to discuss this and I won't.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
What MP said that? :shock:
It was the Israelites in Egypt.
10 Sec glimpse on BBC. Did not get his name.
"History shows nobody aids the oppressed. Like the Jewish people under Pharaoh or Hitler" is what I wrote. Yes they were the Isralites. Didn't want to drag the sentence on too long. Apologies.
He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!
Today was the fifth anniversary of Guantanamo Bay.
As a sign of protest I have made the 'The Revival' logo orange.
(joking. It has been that way for a while now.)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
that was actually slightly funny.
BTW I still think it to be true about Guantanamo being a symbol of terror and torture as what Auschwitz was.
He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!