Scaremongering

Well you have all recently heard of the very large threat posed by 'some muslims' in the UK.

But what happens when the biggest ever weapons stash is found in the uk, and the defendants are not Muslims? It gets a story somewhere inside the local paper.

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[size=18]Chemicals Find: Two In Court[/size]

TWO Pendle men have appeared before Pennine magistrates accused of having "a master plan" after what is believed to be a record haul of chemicals used in making home-made bombs was found in Colne.

Robert Cottage (49), of Talbot Street, Colne, and David Bolus Jackson (62), of Trent Road, Nelson, made separate appearances before the court charged with being in possession of an explosive substance for an unlawful purpose. The offences are under the Explosive Substances Act 1883.

Both men were remanded in custody to appear at Burnley Crown Court on October 23rd. Cottage was arrested at his home on Thursday, while retired dentist Jackson was arrested in the Lancaster area on Friday, the same day as he left a dental practice in Grange-over-Sands.

[b]The 22 chemical components recovered by police are believed to be the largest haul ever found at a house in this country.[/b]

Cottage is an ex-BNP member who stood as a candidate in the Pendle Council elections in May.

Mrs Christiana Buchanan, who appeared for the prosecution in Jackson's case, alleged the pair had "some kind of masterplan".

She said a search of Jackson's home had [b]uncovered rocket launchers, chemicals, BNP literature and a nuclear biological suit.[/b]

Police raided Cottage's Talbot Street home on Thursday of last week. The house was taped off while forensics officers searched the premises. Neighbours were told to stay in their homes for their own safety. Mr Cottage's car was also taken away for examination.

Officers also made a thorough examination of Jackson's Trent Road home and, again, officers were on duty outside the house. Forensics officers examined the property.

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And nothing in the national press.

A few days later, and the headline of some Muslim guy who handed himself in for 'plotting acts', but did not try to prepare or commission anything makes the main news.

Nuclear biological suit? Rocket launchers? chemicals? and also supposedly the largest stash of explosives found in a haul in the UK.

And it gets an Item in the local news.

[b][color=indigo]This should have been made Headlines!!!!!

Clearly shows their hate for Islam and the Muslims.

We were all under threat and we didn't even know about it! Frggin media![/color][/b]

"Noor...*" wrote:
Clearly shows their hate for Islam and the Muslims.

That it does not IMO.

It shows that all the spotlight is on one community.

and who can blame 'them'? Afterall the last attack pof murder in the UK WAS carried out by British born Muslims.

My issue is that members ofone community are being villainised while others doing the same or worse are just ignored.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

[b][color=indigo]Yeah true, but the Media is protraying such a bad negative light on Islam which is making things worse for the Muslims living here.
If they didn't want this hate for Muslims to spread by non-muslims, then surely they would stop all this crap they show about Muslims in the news and focus on other IMPORTANT issues facing us today.[/color][/b]

"Noor...*" wrote:
[b][color=indigo]Yeah true, but the Media is protraying such a bad negative light on Islam which is making things worse for the Muslims living here.
If they didn't want this hate for Muslims to spread by non-muslims, then surely they would stop all this crap they show about Muslims in the news and focus on other IMPORTANT issues facing us today.[/color][/b]
They're starting to critisize islam and muslims don't like it. They have been doing that to christianity and drawing cartoons of jesus in europe for a long time but when they drew some cartoons of mohammed there were world wide riots. A lot of people who critisize islam get fatwas which call for their death. Our leftist media has been tip toeing around islam and that is going to stop. If islam is too fragile to stand up to critisizm it must not be the right faith.

"stmark" wrote:
They're starting to critisize islam and muslims don't like it. They have been doing that to christianity and drawing cartoons of jesus in europe for a long time but when they drew some cartoons of mohammed there were world wide riots. A lot of people who critisize islam get fatwas which call for their death. Our leftist media has been tip toeing around islam and that is going to stop. If islam is too fragile to stand up to critisizm it must not be the right faith.

[color=magenta]im sorry but pictures of jesus were around since ages and it isnt an offence to christians when you se pictures of jesus, whereas with the pictures of Muhammad PBUH being published it was offensiv you cant compare the two, there is a difference between criticism and offending, n islam being fragile thas the last thng it is[/color]

[b][color=DeepPink]O you who believe, If you help (in the cause of) Allah, He will help you, and make your foothold firm[/color][color=DeepSkyBlue] {Surah Muhammad7}[/color][/b]

erm... the topic is when muslims do something wrong it is the main headline for a week. A massive outcry with people questioning wether any Muslims are peaceful yadda yadda.

When a Non-Muslim does something equally wrong (may worse as this is the largest ever haul in the UK), it gets a small section in a local paper. No outcry. No nothing.

It's got nothing to do with faith and which is right, but with villainising a group, and giving it exclusivity.

do not mesh together unrelated issues.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

[color=magenta]sorry for going off topic

but i agree when someone does somethng and it gets press coverage if the person is muslim their faith is emphasised the fact that they ar a Muslim but as you said if they arent a muslim then they dont even make the coverage[/color]

[b][color=DeepPink]O you who believe, If you help (in the cause of) Allah, He will help you, and make your foothold firm[/color][color=DeepSkyBlue] {Surah Muhammad7}[/color][/b]

well st mark i'm sorry but why should we put up and shut up? we should make a fuss make it clear that we don't like it and won't tolerate such utter abuse towards everything we hold sacred, in a non violent way of course.

Christians have every right to make a stand when their religion is ridiculed aswell, and if they choose not to that's not our fault. I believe they should make a stand. Ridicule and comedy is often used to modernise and destroy ideologies and faiths that go against the grain of certain societies. I mean atheist societies aren't gona extol the virtues of religion are they. If one particular religion is very popular at a certain period in time they'll do everything possible to destroy the image of that faith so it's no longer taken seriously and fewer ppl follow. Sadly this has been done to the image of christianity over many decades. Ppl have allowed half witted comedians to ridicule their faith to such an extent that even so called followers of the religion will laugh along with the fools little realising the jokes on them. In the uk you only have to switch on the tv or radio there's always some so called joke about the Mary (ra) or Jesus (as), it's disgusting.

Muslims don't want their religion to be reduced to this, why should we modernise our faith it's for all times it requires no amendments. So bring on the jokes and muslims will continue to make a stand. This isn't extremism as far as i'm aware you so called free ppl call this freedom of speech, we;re exercising it.

"yashmaki" wrote:
well st mark i'm sorry but why should we put up and shut up? we should make a fuss make it clear that we don't like it and won't tolerate such utter abuse towards everything we hold sacred, in a non violent way of course.

Christians have every right to make a stand when their religion is ridiculed aswell, and if they choose not to that's not our fault. I believe they should make a stand. Ridicule and comedy is often used to modernise and destroy ideologies and faiths that go against the grain of certain societies. I mean atheist societies aren't gona extol the virtues of religion are they. If one particular religion is very popular at a certain period in time they'll do everything possible to destroy the image of that faith so it's no longer taken seriously and fewer ppl follow. Sadly this has been done to the image of christianity over many decades. Ppl have allowed half witted comedians to ridicule their faith to such an extent that even so called followers of the religion will laugh along with the fools little realising the jokes on them. In the uk you only have to switch on the tv or radio there's always some so called joke about the Mary (ra) or Jesus (as), it's disgusting.

Muslims don't want their religion to be reduced to this, why should we modernise our faith it's for all times it requires no amendments. So bring on the jokes and muslims will continue to make a stand. This isn't extremism as far as i'm aware you so called free ppl call this freedom of speech, we;re exercising it.

There were a lot of peaceful protests but there were a lot of violent ones too. That is probably the reason for the media coverage of islam. There have been times when islam only got a little bit of coverage over a negative incident too. I agree if the bnp did this it should have got more coverage than it did.

"Admin" wrote:
erm... the topic is when muslims do something wrong it is the main headline for a week. A massive outcry with people questioning wether any Muslims are peaceful yadda yadda.

When a Non-Muslim does something equally wrong (may worse as this is the largest ever haul in the UK), it gets a small section in a local paper. No outcry. No nothing.

It's got nothing to do with faith and which is right, but with villainising a group, and giving it exclusivity.

do not mesh together unrelated issues.

I don't see that as being unrelated. If you belong to a religion that commits violence it isn't going to be ignored. If the bnp did that it probably should have got more coverage than it did so I agree with you there.

I am tired of the whole argument of is Islam a religion of peace or violence, so I will not go down it.

Suffice it to say, whatever the creed, it always boils down to the individual. and you can use logic is some flawed form to prove anything.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

yep.. I dunno.. does anyone get the feeling that theres a media campaign against the Muslims?.. or is it just me..

anyways.. thanks for that found my next avata

[b][i]Round and round the Ka'bah,
Like a good Sahabah,
One step, Two step,
All the way to jannah[/i][/b]

Its just you.

You are getting paranoid.

"khan" wrote:
does anyone get the feeling that theres a media campaign against the Muslims?.

[color=indigo][b]Yes.[/b][/color]

Considering her message was that extremism is not an exclusively muslim problem, and that everyone needed to participate to eliminate it in all its forms, that headline is biased.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Good editorial in the Guardian today.

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Speak freely but carefully

Sticks and stones do break bones but words can hurt too. Just a week after Jack Straw's remarks about the niqab, a clamour now arises from politicians joining the debate with their own concerns about Islam. Where Mr Straw was precise and careful with his language, the risk is that anxiety is being aired without clarity either as to the problems or the solutions.
Few Muslims feel comfortable about becoming the chief political preoccupation of the day, but that is how many will feel that they are seen after the past week. Gordon Brown, Harriet Harman and Tessa Jowell all went out of their way to give vocal support to Mr Straw's original comments, giving the impression that the government attaches disproportionate importance to the veil. Yesterday's trumpeted plans to map out extremist Islamic hotspots came alongside the announcement of reforms to the admission rules for religious schools that ministers must have known would be seen primarily in the context of Islam. This followed a weekend where minister Phil Woolas demanded a teaching assistant be "sacked" for wearing a veil at work, second-guessing an employment tribunal that must decide on whether or not her dress is hampering her work, where the facts seem to be disputed. Tory home affairs spokesman David Davis has piled in too, warning that British Muslims risked falling into "voluntary apartheid". Perhaps afraid of being called racist, the Conservatives had said little on these issues, but now Labour has given them cover.

"khan" wrote:
yep.. I dunno.. does anyone get the feeling that theres a media campaign against the Muslims?.. or is it just me..

It’s not just you. There is undoubtedly a concerted Muslim bashing campaign going on in certain sections of the media, intensified since the straw man’s recent comments.

Every day a new story about Muslims dominates the press and TV. It’s getting very tiresome and a little bit sinister.
The Jewish journalist Jonathan Freeland wrote an interesting article about this very thing earlier in the week.

[b]If this onslaught was about Jews, I would be looking for my passport [/b]

Jonathan Freedland
Wednesday October 18, 2006
[u][i]The Guardian [/i][/u]

Politicians and media have turned a debate about integration into an ugly drumbeat of hysteria against British Muslims

I've been trying to imagine what it must be like to be a Muslim in Britain. I guess there's a sense of dread about switching on the radio or television, even about walking into a newsagents. What will they be saying about us today? Will we be under assault for the way we dress? Or the schools we go to, or the mosques we build? Who will be on the front page: a terror suspect, a woman in a veil or, the best of both worlds, a veiled terror suspect.

Last week the Times splashed on "Suspect in terror hunt used veil to evade arrest". That sat alongside yesterday's lead in the Daily Express: "Veil should be banned say 98%". Nearly all those who rang the Express agreed that "a restriction would help to safeguard racial harmony and improve communication". At the weekend the Sunday Telegraph led on "Tories accuse Muslims of 'creating apartheid by shutting themselves off' ".

Right now, we're getting it badly wrong - bombarding Muslims with pressure and prejudice, laying one social problem after another at their door. I try to imagine how I would feel if this rainstorm of headlines substituted the word "Jew" for "Muslim": Jews creating apartheid, Jews whose strange customs and costume should be banned. I wouldn't just feel frightened. I would be looking for my passport.