Submitted by *DUST* on 18 January, 2006 - 21:27 #121
"naj" wrote:
"*DUST*" wrote:
"Don Karnage" wrote:
"naj" wrote:
"sonofadam" wrote:
May God preseve Dr. Ayman and Shaikh Osamah and break the back of America and its satanic allies.
ameen thuma ameen...
wow
i know. :?
what ?
is it because i dont wish them dead like some majority ?
no, but he's certainly not a sheikh. and i was more taken aback by this part:
Quote:
break the back of America and its satanic allies.
thats some pretty strong wording.
—
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by star on 18 January, 2006 - 21:31 #122
"*DUST*" wrote:
no, but he's certainly not a sheikh. and i was more taken aback by this part:
Quote:
break the back of America and its [b]satanic allies[/b].
thats some pretty strong wording.
i dont know if hes a sheikh.....satanic allies of course
some human devils !!
however i refrain from cursing them or wishing them bad as i personally do not know the truth...
Allahu Alam!!
Submitted by Beast on 18 January, 2006 - 21:32 #123
"naj" wrote:
break the back of America and its satanic allies.
Aren't you just mindlessly repeating some political slogan you heard?
Submitted by star on 18 January, 2006 - 21:35 #124
"Beast" wrote:
"naj" wrote:
break the back of America and its satanic allies.
Aren't you just mindlessly repeating some political slogan you heard?
repeating ???
i did not quote that.
Submitted by *DUST* on 18 January, 2006 - 21:36 #125
"Beast" wrote:
"naj" wrote:
break the back of America and its satanic allies.
Aren't you just mindlessly repeating some political slogan you heard?
actually it was our newest member 'sonofadam' who wrote that first, naj said 'ameen...' in reply.
Naj, we pay taxes which go towards the Iraq war. does that mean we are all 'satanic allies' of America?
—
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Medarris on 18 January, 2006 - 21:37 #126
Beast if you scroll back up bruv you will see that it was a certain "sonofadam" who said those words about america and the satanic allies. - not naj.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Beast on 18 January, 2006 - 21:40 #127
"Dust" wrote:
actually it was our newest member 'sonofadam' who wrote that first, naj said 'ameen...' in reply.
"Med" wrote:
Beast if you scroll back up bruv you will see that it was a certain "sonofadam" who said those words about america and the satanic allies. - not naj.
Sorry. My mistake.
Please accept my heartfelt apology Naj...
I doubt our newest member will be making anymore posts. Probably a chicken...
Submitted by star on 18 January, 2006 - 22:04 #128
"Beast" wrote:
I doubt our newest member will be making anymore posts. Probably a chicken...
well some people are quick to scare new members away [size=7]hint hint[/size]
"*DUST*" wrote:
Naj, we pay taxes which go towards the Iraq war. does that mean we are all 'satanic allies' of America?
no...u misunderstood
however wasnt exactly referring to anyone....
Submitted by Beast on 18 January, 2006 - 22:05 #129
"naj" wrote:
"Beast" wrote:
I doubt our newest member will be making anymore posts. Probably a chicken...
well some people are quick to scare new members away [size=7]hint hint[/size]
[size=7]I'm using reverse psychology.[/size]
Submitted by *DUST* on 18 January, 2006 - 22:13 #130
"naj" wrote:
"*DUST*" wrote:
Naj, we pay taxes which go towards the Iraq war. does that mean we are all 'satanic allies' of America?
no...u misunderstood
however wasnt exactly referring to anyone....
what exactly have i misunderstood? what wasnt referring to 'anyone'?
—
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Dave on 18 January, 2006 - 22:35 #131
Enough.
This constant bickering back and forth is not worth it. There is a diversity of opinions ranging in extremity, but it is important to remember that no member of this forum is or has the potential to become terrorists, so there is no point persecuting one another as such.
It's more than clear that those who believe Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri are heros will not change their minds through such exchanges so let's drop it.
This is just a forum
How many people on this forum have lost somebody they knew as either a result of terrorism, or the military response to it?
Submitted by Medarris on 18 January, 2006 - 22:40 #132
Dave bruv here you wrote I think about hoping to hunt down Bin Ladin Sahib et al, and when I mentioned about killing every single indian soldier in kashmir you were agast at my bloodthirsty approach.
Whatever Bin Ladin Sahib et al have allegedly done is not any worse than what the Indian army does in my kashmir.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Dave on 18 January, 2006 - 22:50 #133
"Med" wrote:
Dave bruv here you wrote I think about hoping to hunt down Bin Ladin Sahib et al, and when I mentioned about killing every single indian soldier in kashmir you were agast at my bloodthirsty approach.
Whatever Bin Ladin Sahib et al have allegedly done is not any worse than what the Indian army does in my kashmir.
You never saw what "Sahib" bin Laden et al did.
I was quite serious, we will kill bin Laden and his accomplices - it's not an argument it's reality - a statement of fact. He and his death cult are a lost cause, and will be forgotten in the minds of his transitory cheerleaders well before i'm old - they won't even stick around long enough to cry over his death.
However this discussion is nowhere and is going nowhere, arm chair support for bin Laden is of little interest to me or anyone else since it amounts to nothing.
As for Kashmir - I know little about it. My natural inclination is against terrorism in almost any situation, you can educate this forum on Kashmir in a thread if you so desire.
Submitted by Medarris on 18 January, 2006 - 22:57 #134
As a believer, Dave Im surprised by your statement that you WILL kill Bin Ladin Sahib.
For all we know the Angel of Death may have already visited Bin Ladin Sahib and taken him into the next life. Dont be so sure of humans bruv, if Bin Ladin Sahibs death is written to be at the hand or bullet of an american then it will surely happen, but if his death is meant to be sleeping in his bed then that too will surely come to pass.
Do not be so sure of your own cause that you exceed the bounds bruv. Like I said about kashmir, I say that if I took an army into kashmir slaughtering the indian soldiers wholesale would not prick my conscience one bit, but at same time I wont say they WILL die at the hands of the mujahideen because the soldier who is destined to escape back to the Land of the Hindus will surely get there, despite what I or my soldiers would desire.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Dave on 18 January, 2006 - 22:59 #135
You're speaking to the wrong audience Med.
Incidentally what is your answer to my question above regarding terrorism and the military response to it?
Submitted by Medarris on 18 January, 2006 - 23:04 #136
"Don Karnage" wrote:
Incidentally what is your answer to my question above regarding terrorism and the military response to it?
Bruv kashmir struggle is not terrorism.
Thier occupation of kashmir is wrong on so many levels.
I can understand how 9/11 etc are terrorism but kashmiris killing indian soldiers who came and invade and oppress them is in no way like 9/11.
Just cos people wear a uniform doesnt mean jack. The zionist soldiers where uniforms and kill kids, the indian soldiers wear uniform and commit such oppression that even the sodomites would feel shy to hear.
[b]EDIT: PLS RE-FRAIN FROM CURSING INDIANS IN SUCH A MANNER
-ThePhantomMod[/b][/b]
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Dave on 18 January, 2006 - 23:06 #137
"Med" wrote:
"Don Karnage" wrote:
Incidentally what is your answer to my question above regarding terrorism and the military response to it?
Bruv kashmir struggle is not terrorism.
Thier occupation of kashmir is wrong on so many levels.
I can understand how 9/11 etc are terrorism but kashmiris killing indian soldiers who came and invade and oppress them is in no way like 9/11.
Just cos people wear a uniform doesnt mean jack. The zionist soldiers where uniforms and kill kids, the indian soldiers wear uniform and commit such oppression that even the sodomites would feel shy to hear.
My question wasn't about Kashmir. It was about 9/11 or the military response to it.
Have you lost anyone in either?
Submitted by Medarris on 18 January, 2006 - 23:07 #138
no i have not.
We are definitely not going to agree on what the response should have been or should not have been.
These are the ways of the world, I submit to the divine decree and am confident within myselfs on what is truth and what is falsehood.
I myself am not really against soldiers/millitants dying in conflict.
After all they chose the role.
What I am against is when innocent civillians are used as a buffer.
In Indian-held kashmir if there isa fight between feedon-fighters and soldiers, it is legitimate. However if either attacks civillians that is reprehensible.
Same with chechnya. I agree with the cause of the freedom movement, and support their actions. However I do/will not support any targetting of innocents.
(Same with Iraq, Palestine etc etc etc...)
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Medarris on 18 January, 2006 - 23:27 #140
i agree with admin.
even if a hundred mujahideen are martyred then thats not a problem, rather a cause of glad tidings but one civilian dies and that is too much.
even if a hundred mujahideen are martyred then thats not a problem, rather a cause of glad tidings but one civilian dies and that is too much.
and it works both ways...
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by *DUST* on 19 January, 2006 - 08:11 #142
"Don Karnage" wrote:
Enough.
This constant bickering back and forth is not worth it. There is a diversity of opinions ranging in extremity, but it is important to remember that no member of this forum is or has the potential to become terrorists, so there is no point persecuting one another as such.
It's more than clear that those who believe Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri are heros will not change their minds through such exchanges so let's drop it.
This is just a forum
How many people on this forum have lost somebody they knew as either a result of terrorism, or the military response to it?
there wasnt any 'bickering' really - i was just questioning naj's response to me as it didnt make much sense to me...
btw Dave did U lose someone u knew on 9/11?
i think its true that ppl find it so easy to support wrong deeds when they are able to dehumanise the victims...
—
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Dave on 19 January, 2006 - 13:12 #143
"*DUST*" wrote:
there wasnt any 'bickering' really - i was just questioning naj's response to me as it didnt make much sense to me...
btw Dave did U lose someone u knew on 9/11?
i think its true that ppl find it so easy to support wrong deeds when they are able to dehumanise the victims...
It appears I am the only person on this forum so far that lost people in both 9/11, afghanistan and now Iraq; on top of that i've been considering officers training for the marine corps and rd in afghanistan as part of a promise - which is further complicating marriage plans.
Thus the reason I tend to lose it when people try to rewrite history or demonstrate support for 9/11.
Perhaps bickering wasn't the right word - but let's be real, has there ever been a time that mere conversation has convinced people who support bin laden, zarqawi or zawahiri that they are evil people?
I've not seen it, they either have to be personally touched by it or have seen it first hand to really understand what 9/11 meant. Otherwise they will just make excuses for the terrorists, pretend it wasn't them, or continue to throw rose petals from a (very safe) distance.
So there is no point bashing our heads against walls just to get angry at one another on this forum if it will come to nothing - and doesn't really matter anyway. It's just a forum, nobody here is going to join al Qaeda.
And may Allah continue to shower his blessing upon the Mujahideen of Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Chechnya, keep them safe and remain steadfast and striving for the sake of Allah.
[b]
Manfrom[size=18]Z[/size]arqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
Submitted by Dave on 19 January, 2006 - 15:40 #145
Would you like to elaborate on your last comment, please (Mr. Don Karnage)?
[b]ManfromZarqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
Submitted by Dave on 19 January, 2006 - 15:50 #147
"ManfromZarqa" wrote:
"Don Karnage" wrote:
Charming
[b]Salam Alikum, [/b]
Would you like to elaborate on your last comment, please (Mr. Don Karnage)?
[b]ManfromZarqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
IT IS [i]DON[/i] KARNAGE!
You must roll the "r"
Are you planning on doing all your posts like that? Because it could get a little tedious - if you want to include the zarqa jihad stuff put it in your profile - it's a lot easier.
Unless of course this is some sort of self inflicted thing - then by all means go ahead
You must roll the "r"
Unless of course this is some sort of self inflicted thing - then by all means go ahead
[b]Salam Alikum, [/b]
Already made up assumptions about me, suspicion is a sin, didn’t you know? I was hoping for a Ameen for that dua. Because you have a fictitious- Sunday morning character for your avatar, I’ll try not to take to seriously.
Have a nice day.
[b]ManfromZarqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
Submitted by Dave on 19 January, 2006 - 16:01 #149
"ManfromZarqa" wrote:
"Don Karnage" wrote:
IT IS [i]DON[/i] KARNAGE!
You must roll the "r"
Unless of course this is some sort of self inflicted thing - then by all means go ahead
[b]Salam Alikum, [/b]
Already made up assumptions about me, suspicion is a sin, didn’t you know? I was hoping for a Ameen for that dua. Because you have a fictitious- Sunday morning character for your avatar, I’ll try not to take to seriously.
That is a very intelligent response, reading your replies; is getting a little tedious for my already strained eyes , I try to abstain in replying to you, for the sake of not busting a blood vessel.
I’ve seen a Italian don in Sicily, kissing a gravestone.
no, but he's certainly not a sheikh. and i was more taken aback by this part:
thats some pretty strong wording.
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
i dont know if hes a sheikh.....satanic allies of course
some human devils !!
however i refrain from cursing them or wishing them bad as i personally do not know the truth...
Allahu Alam!!
Aren't you just mindlessly repeating some political slogan you heard?
repeating ???
i did not quote that.
actually it was our newest member 'sonofadam' who wrote that first, naj said 'ameen...' in reply.
Naj, we pay taxes which go towards the Iraq war. does that mean we are all 'satanic allies' of America?
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Beast if you scroll back up bruv you will see that it was a certain "sonofadam" who said those words about america and the satanic allies. - not naj.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Sorry. My mistake.
Please accept my heartfelt apology Naj...
I doubt our newest member will be making anymore posts. Probably a chicken...
well some people are quick to scare new members away [size=7]hint hint[/size]
no...u misunderstood
however wasnt exactly referring to anyone....
[size=7]I'm using reverse psychology.[/size]
what exactly have i misunderstood? what wasnt referring to 'anyone'?
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Enough.
This constant bickering back and forth is not worth it. There is a diversity of opinions ranging in extremity, but it is important to remember that no member of this forum is or has the potential to become terrorists, so there is no point persecuting one another as such.
It's more than clear that those who believe Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri are heros will not change their minds through such exchanges so let's drop it.
This is just a forum
How many people on this forum have lost somebody they knew as either a result of terrorism, or the military response to it?
Dave bruv here you wrote I think about hoping to hunt down Bin Ladin Sahib et al, and when I mentioned about killing every single indian soldier in kashmir you were agast at my bloodthirsty approach.
Whatever Bin Ladin Sahib et al have allegedly done is not any worse than what the Indian army does in my kashmir.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
You never saw what "Sahib" bin Laden et al did.
I was quite serious, we will kill bin Laden and his accomplices - it's not an argument it's reality - a statement of fact. He and his death cult are a lost cause, and will be forgotten in the minds of his transitory cheerleaders well before i'm old - they won't even stick around long enough to cry over his death.
However this discussion is nowhere and is going nowhere, arm chair support for bin Laden is of little interest to me or anyone else since it amounts to nothing.
As for Kashmir - I know little about it. My natural inclination is against terrorism in almost any situation, you can educate this forum on Kashmir in a thread if you so desire.
As a believer, Dave Im surprised by your statement that you WILL kill Bin Ladin Sahib.
For all we know the Angel of Death may have already visited Bin Ladin Sahib and taken him into the next life. Dont be so sure of humans bruv, if Bin Ladin Sahibs death is written to be at the hand or bullet of an american then it will surely happen, but if his death is meant to be sleeping in his bed then that too will surely come to pass.
Do not be so sure of your own cause that you exceed the bounds bruv. Like I said about kashmir, I say that if I took an army into kashmir slaughtering the indian soldiers wholesale would not prick my conscience one bit, but at same time I wont say they WILL die at the hands of the mujahideen because the soldier who is destined to escape back to the Land of the Hindus will surely get there, despite what I or my soldiers would desire.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
You're speaking to the wrong audience Med.
Incidentally what is your answer to my question above regarding terrorism and the military response to it?
Bruv kashmir struggle is not terrorism.
Thier occupation of kashmir is wrong on so many levels.
I can understand how 9/11 etc are terrorism but kashmiris killing indian soldiers who came and invade and oppress them is in no way like 9/11.
Just cos people wear a uniform doesnt mean jack. The zionist soldiers where uniforms and kill kids, the indian soldiers wear uniform and commit such oppression that even the sodomites would feel shy to hear.
[b]EDIT: PLS RE-FRAIN FROM CURSING INDIANS IN SUCH A MANNER
-ThePhantomMod[/b][/b]
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
My question wasn't about Kashmir. It was about 9/11 or the military response to it.
Have you lost anyone in either?
no i have not.
We are definitely not going to agree on what the response should have been or should not have been.
These are the ways of the world, I submit to the divine decree and am confident within myselfs on what is truth and what is falsehood.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
I myself am not really against soldiers/millitants dying in conflict.
After all they chose the role.
What I am against is when innocent civillians are used as a buffer.
In Indian-held kashmir if there isa fight between feedon-fighters and soldiers, it is legitimate. However if either attacks civillians that is reprehensible.
Same with chechnya. I agree with the cause of the freedom movement, and support their actions. However I do/will not support any targetting of innocents.
(Same with Iraq, Palestine etc etc etc...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i agree with admin.
even if a hundred mujahideen are martyred then thats not a problem, rather a cause of glad tidings but one civilian dies and that is too much.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
and it works both ways...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
there wasnt any 'bickering' really - i was just questioning naj's response to me as it didnt make much sense to me...
btw Dave did U lose someone u knew on 9/11?
i think its true that ppl find it so easy to support wrong deeds when they are able to dehumanise the victims...
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
It appears I am the only person on this forum so far that lost people in both 9/11, afghanistan and now Iraq; on top of that i've been considering officers training for the marine corps and rd in afghanistan as part of a promise - which is further complicating marriage plans.
Thus the reason I tend to lose it when people try to rewrite history or demonstrate support for 9/11.
Perhaps bickering wasn't the right word - but let's be real, has there ever been a time that mere conversation has convinced people who support bin laden, zarqawi or zawahiri that they are evil people?
I've not seen it, they either have to be personally touched by it or have seen it first hand to really understand what 9/11 meant. Otherwise they will just make excuses for the terrorists, pretend it wasn't them, or continue to throw rose petals from a (very safe) distance.
So there is no point bashing our heads against walls just to get angry at one another on this forum if it will come to nothing - and doesn't really matter anyway. It's just a forum, nobody here is going to join al Qaeda.
[b]Salam Alikum,[/b]
And may Allah continue to shower his blessing upon the Mujahideen of Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Chechnya, keep them safe and remain steadfast and striving for the sake of Allah.
[b]
Manfrom[size=18]Z[/size]arqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
Charming
[b]Salam Alikum, [/b]
Would you like to elaborate on your last comment, please (Mr. Don Karnage)?
[b]ManfromZarqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
IT IS [i]DON[/i] KARNAGE!
You must roll the "r"
Are you planning on doing all your posts like that? Because it could get a little tedious - if you want to include the zarqa jihad stuff put it in your profile - it's a lot easier.
Unless of course this is some sort of self inflicted thing - then by all means go ahead
[b]Salam Alikum, [/b]
Already made up assumptions about me, suspicion is a sin, didn’t you know? I was hoping for a Ameen for that dua. Because you have a fictitious- Sunday morning character for your avatar, I’ll try not to take to seriously.
Have a nice day.
[b]ManfromZarqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
Assumptions? You called my Mr.
It is DON!
(note: see encylopedia entry on spanish nobility)
You know Talespin?!
[b]Salam Alikum,[/b]
That is a very intelligent response, reading your replies; is getting a little tedious for my already strained eyes , I try to abstain in replying to you, for the sake of not busting a blood vessel.
I’ve seen a Italian don in Sicily, kissing a gravestone.
[b]ManfromZarqa
Jihad for the Sake of Allah[/b]
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