Which is the most important part to believe with?

Heart
14% (2 votes)
Heart
14% (2 votes)
Mind
0% (0 votes)
Mind
0% (0 votes)
Tongue
0% (0 votes)
Tongue
0% (0 votes)
All
14% (2 votes)
All
14% (2 votes)
Heart & Mind
7% (1 vote)
Heart & Mind
7% (1 vote)
Mind & Tongue
0% (0 votes)
Mind & Tongue
0% (0 votes)
Heart & Tongue
14% (2 votes)
Heart & Tongue
14% (2 votes)
Total votes: 14

I was told this in my interview at work, in order to be a successful salesman, you need to believe in the product in your heart, in your mind and with your tongue

similarly to be successful in this life, we have to be Musilms at heart, mind and with our tongues

but has anyone else ever found that:

the easiest part is to beleive by tongue

the heart takes some convincing, but can be won over easily

but the mind is the hardest - even when the heart is secure, the mind often tries to displace it - make you doubt yourself

I dont know if its just a problem i face, but does anyone elses minds 'play tricks' on them? does it ask you why you believe in something, even tho you know why

basically....i can answer the doubts in my head, but even then i can question that :?

Discuss

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

I get 'questions' sometimes.

But then I ask myself what it is that is making me ask this question.

And it's usually something due to a non-Islamic non-religious source.

And I content myself with the fact that I can't answer everything because, for one thing, I can't know everything.

[size=7]If that makes sense. [/size]

but when you cant answer yourself, do you not doubt?

I guess one thing works for me, i remember what Shaykh Ul Islam said at Al Hidayah camp -

Shaitan only works on those who are trying to stay on the right path, not those who have already acheived piety and are guiding us.......he works on the followers - its his vow

and one if his dirtiest tricks is to sow seeds of doubt in our heads

and its pretty hard to tackle :?

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

Even if you fail to answer a particular question, you should realise that it is only one question. You can't start to doubt 'everything' on the basis of one question.

Plus there are many more things out there that make you believe than things that make you doubt.

"Enver" wrote:

Plus there are many more things out there that make you believe than things that make you doubt.

very true

but its often quite easy to forget that

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
"Enver" wrote:

Plus there are many more things out there that make you believe than things that make you doubt.

very true

but its often quite easy to forget that

It is easy to forget. That's why it's best to see doubt as a passing thing.

It's making you doubt at this particular time but tomorrow you might forget about it, or soon you will gain more knowldge and overcome that doubt.

doubt is natural

you say that your heart remains strong but your mind plays tricks this is also natural because your heart takes longer to accept any doubt because it is stronger then the mind

the mind is influenced by everthing around us consciously and unconsciously some doubt is bound to seep in

when this happens and believe me it happens alot its best to look into them and you will find that analyses in broad daylight will find them dwindling into nothing

and pretty soon when you have cleared all your major doubts in this way you will learn to ignore them because your heart will already know they are lies

and doubts will come and go but you will know them for what they are - the devils tools to misguide you ( i mean the inner devil here as well as the outer)

salaam

my mind keeps playin games with me...doubting and questioning.....and sometimes thinkin about wrong things :oops:

and i sumtymz think its coz my iman is weakening :?

but i know thats not me....

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

Salaam

Good topic.

A true Muslim is the one who has submitting his heart, body, mind, soul and spirit to the wishes of his creator.

He only desires, wants, think, speaks and does what his Creator has made permissible for him…

The above are interlinked at times. For instances, scholars have said that there is a direct link between the tongue and the heart….so if one constantly repeats the Dhikr of Allah (swt) on his tongue with an absent mind…sooner or later it reaches the heart and mind.

The heart is obviously “in charge” of all the other part of our body…we are told that if the “heart is corrupted then the rest of the body is corrupted too”.

Obviously the mind is the hardest thing to control…

Only the ones with extremely high taqwa have pure minds with no doubts….it is said that “the sign of the one with perfect taqwa is that all his thoughts can be put on display for everyone to see and he won’t be embarrassed by them”.

But yeah, its extremely difficult to FULLY submit ourselves….

Wasalaam

Taqwa probably seems to be my problem

has its highs and lows.......compare it Ramadan and now, theres a big difference

i think around uni i find it hard to stay in good company, in fact, there is hardly any there........and i often return to my old ways :oops:

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"SuperTed" wrote:
my mind keeps playin games with me...doubting and questioning.....and sometimes thinkin about wrong things :oops:

and i sumtymz think its coz my iman is weakening :?

but i know thats not me....

Ofcourse bad thoughts enter your mind. There's alot of bad in this world.

But your imaan is not irrecoverably weakening.

At this moment in time you may feel spiritually weak, but this not a bad thing.

If you felt a healthy spiritual faith all the time then you would get used to it and take it for granted.

When your imaan is re-energized you will appreicate it more.

:?:

"SuperTed" wrote:
Taqwa probably seems to be my problem

has its highs and lows.......compare it Ramadan and now, theres a big difference

i think around uni i find it hard to stay in good company, in fact, there is hardly any there........and i often return to my old ways :oops:

You know yourself that good company is the answer...

Be reg at those Camp things...you can only get stronger.

I hate my Uni cos I also have no decent mates to hang around with.

"Enver" wrote:

Ofcourse bad thoughts enter your mind. There's alot of bad in this world.

But your imaan is not irrecoverably weakening.

At this moment in time you may feel spiritually weak, but this not a bad thing.

If you felt a healthy spiritual faith all the time then you would get used to it and take it for granted.

When your imaan is re-energized you will appreicate it more.

:?:

Yeah, ones Iman is like a yo yo..

You just need to recharge your batteries.

Quote:

When your imaan is re-energized you will appreicate it more.

true....i think i cant wait for next weekend, uni over

like MS, i cant find good company at uni

all my mates, bar 2, are jus the typical students - safe, but not 'into' Islam....and the conversations are not worth talkin about

and thats why i felt rubbish after Al-Hidayah ended, as did the last MICS camp.

good company makes a big difference on the way your mind thinks.......once its in bad company, it runs wild...

[size=7]which is also why i wanted to go ICIS and Inshallah Umrah this year[/size]

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

Its so hard living in this country sometimes....

This whole week I never went Uni or Work just cos I wanted to be by myself. I stayed home all week.

I'm so glad next week is the last week of Uni.

But struggles, striving, hardships etc only makes one stronger. Thats the real test.

True True

if its easy, there would be no point

and what we have to face is relatively nothing compared to the hardships endured by the prophets and the sahaba

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ