My uncle told that I shouldnt eat from there. I'm not sure what the Islamic ruling is on that....cos everything Tesco's, Sainsbury, my corner shop etc sells alcohol
Submitted by yashmaki on 9 December, 2005 - 16:55 #62
i think your uncle is right, we shouldn't go anywhere near the stuff.
I'm trying to find a detailed answer in the meantime this will have to do:
[b]The Prophet (SAW) said that we should not indulge in any Haram. Is it cursed if we buy or eat from places where alcohol and pork is sold, because we are from Europe and can’t help our situation?[/b]
[b]Fatwa[/b]
Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.
The Muslim should not sit at a table where alcohol is served. Imams Ahmad and Tirmizi reported that Jaber narrated that the Prophet said: "Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, he should not sit at a table where alcohol is served". So, it is unlawful for the Muslim to eat or drink in restaurants where alcohol or pork are served as this might be interpreted as an acceptance of what the wrong-doers are doing.
But if one is compelled to do so, he can, provided that he sits at a table where there is no alcohol or similar forbidden things. He could wait for a time when the restaurant is empty of those dissolute people.
As for buying lawful things from these places, it is lawful. But if there are Muslim shops that sell the same thing, it is more appropriate to buy from them.
Allah knows best.
Answerer: Fatwa center supervised by Dr. Abdullah Al-faqih
As far as i can recall one of the reasons why it's permitted to shop in supermarkets is coz it's pretty much unavoidable in this country. Indian supermarkets don;t have everything we need.
Also the bulk of goods is not alcohol in supermarkets if it were we wouldn't be allowed to shop there. Although there is haram food about it is packaged, less room for contamination. Same goes for alcohol in supermarkets.
But in restaurants and other food outlets where they serve alcohol it's sitting in glasses, even fallen on the tables etc. What about your glass how clean is it?
I duno i'm really iffy about eating out can't you tell lol. I've heard too many horror stories.
Back in the day i used to eat in nandos. But then i heard about the stunned meat issue and started thinking about the halal meat issue. Soon after a nandos branch opened in my town, i thght cool i never knew nandos had a bar until this branch opened though, call me slow. I never saw any bar in brummy branch. An obviously didn't see the drinks on the menu. But this branch in my town had a huge bar soon as you walk in. When i stepped in in my jilbab and headscarf i felt soo out of place, didn't feel right. I felt like i was sinning, i knew it was wrong to eat there. my mate didn't understand she thght iwas being too fussy, but i walked out. Since then never eaten in them places.
It is a hard call to make, i was shocked when I first went into one of my mate resturant and saw the amount of acholol they sold, by all account they make 2/3 of their profit from it. I sure people will find it strange walking into a pub just to order lunch and using the excuse they haven't come to drink. But I remember I think The Revival Agony Aunt telling how she first learn about islam from a muslim who used to visit the pub and drink Orange juice. But neverless it seem wrong.
But there is a good agrument to have that nothing is 100% halal in this country, the story of so call halal meat which someone said in this thread is a perfect example. I think u can do the best with you own intention. But I remember going to a Sh Khalid Yasin talk once and he mention that before muslims complain about all these other places, we should focus on the muslims, he mention that we should boycot all muslims store that sold anything haraam and we shouldn't use the excuse we only buy our bread and milk from there as in a sense we endorsing the person behaviour and keeping the muslims in business. But it one thing me saying this and agreeing with it but i found it much harder to actually do, but i do try.
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"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
Submitted by yashmaki on 9 December, 2005 - 17:13 #64
i agree with him muslim traders should know better.Ironic there are many hindu supermarkets over here that don't sell haram stuff but plenty of muslims ones that do.
Nando's sell alcohol.
My uncle told that I shouldnt eat from there. I'm not sure what the Islamic ruling is on that....cos everything Tesco's, Sainsbury, my corner shop etc sells alcohol
i think your uncle is right, we shouldn't go anywhere near the stuff.
I'm trying to find a detailed answer in the meantime this will have to do:
[b]The Prophet (SAW) said that we should not indulge in any Haram. Is it cursed if we buy or eat from places where alcohol and pork is sold, because we are from Europe and can’t help our situation?[/b]
[b]Fatwa[/b]
Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.
The Muslim should not sit at a table where alcohol is served. Imams Ahmad and Tirmizi reported that Jaber narrated that the Prophet said: "Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, he should not sit at a table where alcohol is served". So, it is unlawful for the Muslim to eat or drink in restaurants where alcohol or pork are served as this might be interpreted as an acceptance of what the wrong-doers are doing.
But if one is compelled to do so, he can, provided that he sits at a table where there is no alcohol or similar forbidden things. He could wait for a time when the restaurant is empty of those dissolute people.
As for buying lawful things from these places, it is lawful. But if there are Muslim shops that sell the same thing, it is more appropriate to buy from them.
Allah knows best.
Answerer: Fatwa center supervised by Dr. Abdullah Al-faqih
Ref: http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Fatwa/ShowFatwa.php?lang=E&Id=1706&Option=F...
As far as i can recall one of the reasons why it's permitted to shop in supermarkets is coz it's pretty much unavoidable in this country. Indian supermarkets don;t have everything we need.
Also the bulk of goods is not alcohol in supermarkets if it were we wouldn't be allowed to shop there. Although there is haram food about it is packaged, less room for contamination. Same goes for alcohol in supermarkets.
But in restaurants and other food outlets where they serve alcohol it's sitting in glasses, even fallen on the tables etc. What about your glass how clean is it?
I duno i'm really iffy about eating out can't you tell lol. I've heard too many horror stories.
Back in the day i used to eat in nandos. But then i heard about the stunned meat issue and started thinking about the halal meat issue. Soon after a nandos branch opened in my town, i thght cool i never knew nandos had a bar until this branch opened though, call me slow. I never saw any bar in brummy branch. An obviously didn't see the drinks on the menu. But this branch in my town had a huge bar soon as you walk in. When i stepped in in my jilbab and headscarf i felt soo out of place, didn't feel right. I felt like i was sinning, i knew it was wrong to eat there. my mate didn't understand she thght iwas being too fussy, but i walked out. Since then never eaten in them places.
It is a hard call to make, i was shocked when I first went into one of my mate resturant and saw the amount of acholol they sold, by all account they make 2/3 of their profit from it. I sure people will find it strange walking into a pub just to order lunch and using the excuse they haven't come to drink. But I remember I think The Revival Agony Aunt telling how she first learn about islam from a muslim who used to visit the pub and drink Orange juice. But neverless it seem wrong.
But there is a good agrument to have that nothing is 100% halal in this country, the story of so call halal meat which someone said in this thread is a perfect example. I think u can do the best with you own intention. But I remember going to a Sh Khalid Yasin talk once and he mention that before muslims complain about all these other places, we should focus on the muslims, he mention that we should boycot all muslims store that sold anything haraam and we shouldn't use the excuse we only buy our bread and milk from there as in a sense we endorsing the person behaviour and keeping the muslims in business. But it one thing me saying this and agreeing with it but i found it much harder to actually do, but i do try.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url]
i agree with him muslim traders should know better.Ironic there are many hindu supermarkets over here that don't sell haram stuff but plenty of muslims ones that do.
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