What's the point of the Revival?
It seems like ever since that BBC thing everybody has been scrambling for more media exposure... and I am getting the distinct impression that the focus of the Revival is shifting from a site for the Muslim Youth primarily about religious issues, to a site about Political Issues that Muslims face... a sort of junior MPAC.
Anybody else noticed a shift?
AND I MISS THE ED!
He's always busy now scrambling for ideas - I hope he still has time for his family.
I can use the quote button.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
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The Rev still has it's purely Islamic content.
But I suppose in order to remain up-to-date the site now carries more political stuff, because for one thing it's hard not to.
But I don't know, I'm not Ed or Admin. Let's see what they say.
how about this put in ali wnnabe nd jamal thing they hve a conversation about judgement day.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Actually I have not been puting up much content recently. All the political stuff is pretty old...
...I gotta start updating again.
The focus of The Revival?
erm... lets say we have no focus.
The forums are a discussion community where everyone interacts. no real point. Ocasionally learn something. find out how others think,=. get help for problems. et your hair down.
Junior MPAC? well... I dunno. Alot more layed back i hope, and with a wider goal and audience.
what do you mean too political? the mag? or the forums? or the site?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
the forum
political discussions, theres a lot. Admin, Enver, 100 and Dave mainly
i know its important sumtymz, but i cant quite help feeling slightly....yaawn...bored from it
Ed has stated he has no time for the forum debates, only comes and goes to say impportant things
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
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yea MPAC is scary.
They need a gigantic collective chill pill.
I suppose moreso the magazine and the site - it seems like the only times Ed shows up anymore is to tell us when the Revival will show up in the media again - or other publicity things.
Ever since that BBC interview it's like that and printing is all he does.
I just hope he isn't trying to turn the Revival into another MPACesque political entity for muslims.
Those are all well and good - certainly necessary and have their uses, but I think it might compromise the integrity of the forums a bit
Hello my old mate Dave....how how are you?
What is the point of The Revival?
mmm....it aims to be the voice of the Muslim Youth.....it tries to raise the issues facing the Muslims today. The magazine tries to educate, motivate, activate the Muslim youth. We deal with religious, political, social, national and international issues.
The website has alot more on current news an daffairs, more on international issues...but also an awful lot on Islamic issues, articles, views etc....
and lets not forget this forum.... it is the voice of the Muslim youth...and it also gives non muslims opportunity to discuss with muslims....
the magazine is unique
this forum is crucuial for muslims to express their views
the website is educational and keeps you upto date.... (this is not updated as often as it shud, hint hint Admin)
i hope that answers your questions...
i am not well at the moment, also extremely busy trying to get the next issue out.... therefore dont come on forums as much....
also i needed a break as some backward talibans were getting on my tits...i felt my time was being wasted talking to people from the Medieval times...
but i will start to come on more regularly once the next issue of the magazine is out, and once my health has improved....
take care Dave
LOL
ur the man "MrEd"-where would the revival be without u?
lol good to see the focus is still on the muslim youth - i'm terrified of MPAC... they are so divided.
Sorry to hear you are not well - definitely the wrong time for sickness to visit you but hopefully issue 4 is making progress for ya.
Sorry you and Med didn't seem to get along... religion and politics generally seem to bring out the disagreement in people and can sometimes give a wrong impression of the person. Med's a good guy and so are you - too bad not all ships are sailing in the same direction.
But that happens - sorry it got you both down.
Looking forward to your posts again! lol you always managed to keep things fresh and interesting around here - and I dunno how much longer the members will stand for my insanity.
Also looking forward to your thoughts on muslim integration - when your better and have free time.
Hope your family is well, get well soon.
A Very important question. So much so, I separated this topic from another.
Now another question:
what SHOULD the role of 'The Revival' be?
what can it do to actually achieve its aims?
and should The Revival be involved in 'publicity stunts', making a fuss for the sake of it? Or should we only speak when we have something to say?
(yeah, yeah... I know... Ed has alot to say about everything... :twisted:)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Could we also agree to be serious about personal attacks (I know me included - don't mean to be a hypocrite) from now on?
Mods and all members
yes.
I did not spot that howler before.
My apologies.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
huh, a howler??
WOT DID I MISS?! :shock:
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well lok at top topic that a mod decided to 'announce', then page 13 of london terror attacks page...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I think the revival should have been what it was at the beggining, A voice for the Muslim youth. It shouldn't make too many political stunts like MPAC but should be active in this area. But what it strenght used to be, is giving a simple message to the muslim youth, adapting the message of islam in a way that would be able to relate to the youth, there is hardly any group like this out there presently. I would have like to see Revival at some stage start holding national footbal and cricket touramentand basically taking a pro active approach to dawah. But the mag is a very important step and inshallah in the long term, Revival will become a household name for the muslim youth
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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a VERY good point there
were only net and magazine at the moment...and a few local radio shows
still not quite household name yet
The Future is Bright, The Future is The Revival
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
lol, good idea but i think we're far off at the moment to hold such events.
But good idea tho.
Back in BLACK
salaam
the revival started as a small newsletter
now it is an established magazine distributed nationwide
we also have an established website and forums
we have started an agony aunt section
we cater for Q & A for the youth
we are getting established on radio stations
we are making good contacts with the media
we are also making good contacts with other groups and organisations
no matter what else we do- the magazine- is our main priority
to educate the muslim youth, to deal with the crucial issues facing the muslims today, in our own way.
in the near future we will be holding events, seminars etc on the name of The Revival.....
the future is bright inshallah....all we need is support of talented peolpe to come on board, and work with us...we need to expand in all departments...
at the moment our team is extremely small....
always make duaa for us...we are all doing this on a voluntary basis, only for the sake of Allah (swt) and to help the Muslims today.
im not saying we are the best thing since sliced bread...but the magazine is unique and a demand today....
Salam
American bashing.
It has always been that.
Omrow
Hey how about a channel? The Islam channel is mundane.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
I think it reflects it's sectarian affiliation.
Yeah but sects are banned in Islam. :roll:
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Duh!
Salam
Islam Channel is a Wahhabi channel.
It promotes the Wahhabi ideology: The same beliefs as that of the idiot Bin Laden.
Whereas the Revival is fine. It is not a rigid as those morons.
Omrow
Actually the Islam channel promotes nothing but peace. I have issues with the revival magazine but I have no problems with the Islam channel.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Agree with Judda, I think that islam Channel have avoided sectarian affiliation, by allowing most scholar a platform. Shaykh Riyad Ul Haq, Zaid Sakir, Hasan Ali, Zakir Naik and loads of other groups and scholars have been allowed a voice even MCB got their own media and politic show on there. They have endorsed 2 Unity conference where all group and sects were allowed to be represented, but it seem it still not enough. It seem that it not paki enough at time, so people complain. Which i have found personall stupid, Because they got Geo, Ary and Vectone. I personally love what Islam Channel are doing, but of course in life you can't please everyone.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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I don't think there have been many non-Salafi/Deobandi scholars at the unity conferences.
IMO Islam Channel is evidently Salafi.
Does it matter? Its still very good.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
No matter.
But I don't like the 'Azaan brought to you by Tilda Basmati'-style sponsorship that Islam Channel have adopted. Would have expected better from them.
Nah you find that they had actually no salafis or deobandi in the Manchester one, they had Abdul Hakim Quick, Shaykh Nywony, Imaam Misbaahi (a imaam at Victoria Park mosque) the only one of doubt is Zakir Naik and i wouldn't consider him Salafi at all. Plus the invited list had loads of scholar like Habib Ali and others
Then you look at what actually come on on the channel and you will find Nasheeds, something i know that the Salafis do not approve of. They did a interview with Imam Zaid Shakir and showed some of his talks. As I mention the problem is that Islam Channel seem to be trying to please everyone, which mean a certain crowd with start saying it a salafi station, because some of the imaam on the Q&A are salafi, you will have other saying it Deobandi and then other saying Brewalvi. But the truth is that the station is trying to position itself in the middle of all these groups. You can only realise this when you have watch a few shows, i think too many people have come to conclusion after watching one show.
Unfortunately about the advert with the Azaan, if it means that we get a free station that propogate islam, i can live with it. They need to finance themselves somehow.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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