Salaam
There are numerous informal study circles’ that take place in my area. Some people choose to summarise/simplify and convey the words of contemporary or classical scholars whilst others based on their own understanding of the Qur’an and hadiths directly preach the word of Allah (swt) and His Rasool (saw).
Do any of you guys regularly attend such circles? If so, do you actually learn something or is it just a waste of time?
Do you find yourself benefiting from such circles and/or implementing what you have learned in the talk?
Or do you just attend cos your mum forces you?
What about Islamic programmes/conferences? How beneficial are they?
Personally, I derive very little out of massive Islamic programmes….people are always chatting, they never start on time and kids are always making noise and they are nearly always badly organised…..the professionally organised Islamic programmes I’ve attended are few and far between….I find the all day massive programmes exhausting to attend and organise.
Most people just view them as a social outing and sometimes it does become one. I’m often left disheartened and knackered after spending a whole day in a programme.
Of course, the virtues of sitting in such gatherings should not be dismissed. Such gatherings are blessed with the presence of special angels…sins get forgiven in such gatherings and duas get answered…..
Which would you say is more affective – Study circles or Islamic programmes?
Do you have any personal experiences to share? Any thoughts on attending and/or organising study circles/Islamic programmes?
Wouldn’t it be correct to say that we need to leave our homes to seek knowledge? Don’t we need to be in the company of the learned and pious in order to benefit from them…
Are we lazy when it comes to such things? Do we even have any time in our busy schedules to attend and/or help out in such things?
Are study circles/Islamic programmes dangerous? How can we know that we are receiving correct knowledge and are not being brainwashed?
Are they such things immensely beneficial or just a waste of time?
Share your thoughts
Wasalaam
Boy even for your standard you are starting a awful lot of topic. Luckily for you they ain't pointless like the one a certain other person on the forum starts :roll:
Which one do i find better, too be honest motivation wise and imaan wise i prefer going to talks at the mosque or these big events. But where gaining knowledge is concern, the study circle is much better, because it much more intimate and normally everyone gets a chance to ask question, plus it is much more relax. You can tell that just by the fact after a event in the mosque and teh question and answer session starts, everyone normally start staring at each other, even though they have about a million question for teh scholar, this isn't the case where study circles are concerned. They both play a important role and i would dismiss either, they reallt should compliment each other IMO.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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Salam
We do a religious discussion circle in our home.
Anything and everything is open for discussion. Including other faiths.
I can say that every person who has attended has benefited from this circle.
Members used to go to muslim circles in the local mosques but they complained that these were boring and extremist.
Well, lets face it. Wahhabi circles are useless. They have no love for Prophet. And all they do is praise Al Qaeda.
They want everyone to [b]be quiet [/b]and [b]believe everything [/b]that is said.
They DO NOT allow questioning.
People were frustrated.
Therefore, we started one at home.
We take a topic every week and hammer it up, down, left, right.
Everyone talks. So much butting in that goes on, its amazing.
Everyone feels they contribute to teaching as well as learning.
Omrow
sounds like an excellent debate session
how many people do you get attending?
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
6 to 14.
U referring to me :evil:
and omro who leads that circle-is it u?
Salam
Not me.
We have a Chairman.
Though he doesn't sit on the chair.
Omrow
do u discuss mouse men theory's in ur study circle?
Salam
Ofcourse, we do.
Always a hot topic.
By such theory, many a married boys have been saved from the likes of you.
Omrow
I conside myself very lucky to escape the clutches of weirdo men who sit together discussing whether or not its "manly" for men to push prams :roll:
btw guys I've booked my ticket for the massive unity conference on the 4th in London
let me know if any of u girls are attending-it'd be fun to hook up
No I wasn't, actually your thread are normally very good and always worth a read, unlike your normal posts :roll: , i was actuallly talking about all these tigger happy people.
Anyway, what are good subjects to be discuss at Study circle, is a good to discuss apsect of namaaz or is it better to stick too issue facing society. I personally prefer talking about aspect of ibadah.
I probably give this unity conference a miss, there seem no interest in my area for it, plus i still got bad memory from the last one which i still haven't recover from.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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i only like hearing about hot contempory issues concerning the youth
every thing else bores me for some reason :oops:
salam sis,
I guess as you said it depends how organised the conferences are and most importantly who the speakers are, for a person to benefit from it.
From personal experience I feel as though study circle causes segragation amongst people, when I used to be at uni, I attended the study circle once or twice but didn't benefit from it because, the girl used to pick one one book and read from it :roll: and thats it!
Also one of my friends who started wearing a headscarf, she started excluding my other friend who didn't, the one who wore the headscarf she would invite all the girl's who wore headscarf and not bother calling girls who didn't, by which my friend was offened by. I mean who are we to judge people? And only Allah Almighty knows how pious a person is.
Study circles can be dangerous if you don't know about your basic beliefs, your aqaide issues, because once you get into the wrong hands they do brainwash you and you become deaf and blind to the truth. So before attending any types of study circles one has to know about their aqeeda.
People will only attend study circles if they are interested, for example, no matter how busy a girl is she always finds time to go shopping, right? same way we have to get our priorities right in order to make time to attend study circles etc.
Lastly, I would like to say keeping all these in mind, I have started my own study circles, we welcome all people and always point out to girls we are not there to judge them, and alhamdulillah they feel really comfortable, also we don't just give them lectures or anything but its more like a discussion session where everyone is allowed to voice their opinions etc.
THROUGH LOVE all that is bitter will be sweet.
Through Love all that is copper will be gold.
Through Love all dregs will turn to purest wine.
Through Love all pain will turn to medicine.
Through Love the king will turn into a slave!
Nah I find it better having these discussion on a one to one basis with people, you pick much more up. Study circle are for me a good method to gain the reason and methods of worship. But for youngster contemparory issues are much better I guess.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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i went to study circle once i think like the one Omrow mentioned (not in his home - i'd love to go to one like that) it was very boring and very disheartening and very very solemn and they kept pursuing me when i didnt attend again
if i wanted to be a Muslim zombie i can do that at home.
however if done properly as Omrow's then i think they can be very beneficial for some they may be the only chance they get to talk about Islam openly
Salam
Seemo. She has so many talents.
She said so much in just three lines.
I could feel everything, even at this distance.
She wants to seek knowledge in ways that are fun and gripping.
She is a falcon that wishes to reach the sky and touch the stars.
She does not like chains to be placed on her. She hates cages. She wants to fly freely.
She has the heart that is truly alive, and shall never die. Heart that seeks the beats that can match its own beat.
She is an explorer that fears no height. And there is not an ocean that is too vast for her ship.
O Angels, prepare ye Paradise for this pure woman !
Omrow
hey omro
I too hate lame, boring study circles that are extreme and try to brainwash me
Now flatter ME
:twisted:
Salam
Now lets see...
You are round.
Made of wool.
Therefore, very warm.
Omrow
LAME :roll:
I expected much better frm Mr OTT
Ok. Ok. You "might" get lots of color wool in the next life.
lol lol for a very long time- i thought i'd post it again no sense in being embarrassed by such fantasy - thank you very much and now will the real sufi stand up
Salaam
The 8-13 age group in Islam is the best age group for study circles…
At that age girls so impressionable, sweet and eager to please….They are at the age that they ask decent questions, out of natural curiosity for Islam and are not self conscious in front of their peers…nor do they have attitude problems and nor are they too bogged down with wanting to look “cool”.
I lead a circle for girls this age every Friday evenings and they’re absolute darlings and never miss class…what impress’s me is their high standard homework. Most of them spend hours on it…basically; all I ask them to do is write me a short (half a page) essay summarising what I spoke about…
Some girls essays are four A4 papers stapled together…some make beautiful detailed, massive posters….its so obvious that hours of effort and time has went into their work…some do it on the computer whilst others hand in pages and pages of handwritten work.
They always come early and linger around after class has ended.
It’s a pleasure to be around such girls. And if I compare this to the teenage girls (15-19) that I also teach once a week, there’s a massive difference….they’re lazy about their homework, I have to remind them to cover their head in class, I have to keep an eye on the ones whose mobile always rings in class…on top of that, whenever I ask if anyone has any questions or if I ask them what I should speak about next week its ALWAYS “boys” or “marriage” or “relationships” etc etc…
I really struggle with that class...I very rarely see any result.
Parents should really send their kids to Islamic classes from day one…far too many parents remember Islam when their kids have gone astray…and sometimes unfortunately its too late.
Wasalaam
in my house apart frm sundays there's a circle every day
I don't mind-but its annoying when I'm forced to sit in them
some kids bug me so much
Salam
Nobody should be forced to learn anything that they do not WISH to learn.
Infact, no one should even be pressured into gaining any form of knowledge.
Its so immoral.
Omrow
It true, when speaking to some 15 years old, i get the impression it too late to make a impact on them already, unlike the one slightly younger. Take today as a example, the mosque chairman decided to take some of the mosque kids too the graveyard about 20 of them came, they all acted respectfully and then they all came to read namaaz afterwards as well. I sometime think we spend more time reacting to problem when trying to solve them before they happen. It just a same the parents and community don't take these youngster under their wing at this age which leaves them to react to the problem when it normally too late.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
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15 is an age of rebellion IMO.
Teach them young. later they will rebel. then very soon Inshallah they will be able to make their own minds.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
tell mum that
Salam
Do your parents force you to learn?
Omrow
No.
But mum does my head in to go to Islamic study circles
Salam
Just tell her that you find them really boring, and they are causing more harm than good to your your fragile mind.
Which is true as well.
That should scare her.
Omrow
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