Submitted by Sirus on 1 November, 2005 - 21:26 #31
some of them others u mentioned Ed, dont understand em :?
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by equanimity on 1 November, 2005 - 21:31 #32
if we suspect some people of commiting shirk , when asked they dont offer you a valid explanation quoting quran and hadith , but they say it is wrong not to take part, what is the best action to take ?
do you still take part even though you are unsure its shirk?
you dont take part and people say your wrong and a wahhabi?
Submitted by Medarris on 1 November, 2005 - 21:38 #33
If there is the risk of shirk, I would say abstain, better to be safe than sorry. At a given opportunity inquire as to the truth about the act, and then if it was ok do it next time, if it wasnt then u saved urself from it.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Sajid Iqbal on 1 November, 2005 - 21:45 #34
"Raf786" wrote:
if we suspect some people of commiting shirk , when asked they dont offer you a valid explanation quoting quran and hadith , but they say it is wrong not to take part, what is the best action to take ?
do you still take part even though you are unsure its shirk?
you dont take part and people say your wrong and a wahhabi?
best thing is to see what Quran, sunnah, ijma , qiyas has to sayy about teh matter.
what have the classicalscholars said about the matter.
if quran , sunnah and the classical scholars are silent on the matter....then avoid it.
if you think someone is doing an act that consists of shirk, dont go shouting 'shirk, shirk'... explain that this act goes against teh teachings of Islam because.....
Also give evidence, references....
even better consult an alim, get that perosn to consult an alim...
if all that doesnt work then leave it, you have done what you can do....by you enforcing your view on that person, he out of passion or ignorance will be adamant that what he is doing is correct and you are the misguided one.
we need to use hiqma (wisdom)
—
Submitted by Medarris on 1 November, 2005 - 21:58 #35
tiny point ed, dont get mad at me, its hikmah. the q is not consistent with the accepted roman transliteration that is in vogue. The k of english is what is commonly used for the kaaf of arabic.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Sajid Iqbal on 1 November, 2005 - 22:01 #36
"Med" wrote:
tiny point ed, dont get mad at me, its hikmah. the q is not consistent with the accepted roman transliteration that is in vogue. The k of english is what is commonly used for the kaaf of arabic.
lol
no comment
—
Submitted by Medarris on 1 November, 2005 - 22:02 #37
"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
tiny point ed, dont get mad at me, its hikmah. the q is not consistent with the accepted roman transliteration that is in vogue. The k of english is what is commonly used for the kaaf of arabic.
lol
no comment
mashaALLAH
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Sirus on 1 November, 2005 - 22:03 #38
wow....were gettin better arent we
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Medarris on 1 November, 2005 - 22:04 #39
"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
wow....were gettin better arent we
do u prefer me to be the other way?
Oi who invited u to this convo, lover loverson?
lol
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Sirus on 1 November, 2005 - 22:05 #40
yes.......ur more funnier and less irritating this way
and maybe we may get on better, not a bad thing eh?
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Medarris on 1 November, 2005 - 22:08 #41
"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
and maybe we may get on better, not a bad thing eh?
i aint too sure about that, ur diseased, i dnt wanna catch wt u've got. the restless nights, the deep sighs, the gazing into space, the mumbling of names, the moodswings, sometimes on a high, sometiems on a low. Stay away from me, u might be contagious.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Omrow on 2 November, 2005 - 12:41 #42
Salam
"Seraph" wrote:
Ed, he said what is [b]THE[/b] biggest sin in Islam.
Not list as many sins as you can.
And I bet that there were some sins that he can think of which did not even make the list !!
Anyway, one day Prophet Muhammad was preaching so many things concerning Islam to his companions. A person stood and asked whether the Prophet can tell him even easier way of entering Paradise. Prophet replied to him: If you do just one thing you will surely enter paradise. Stop lying forever.
This Tradition shows that [b]THE[/b] biggest sin is dishonesty.
It is the root of all evil.
If people only have some courage and speak the truth, so many problems can be solved.
Seraph. Backbiting is product of a soul that is lies.
Omrow
Submitted by hEAVenSenT on 2 November, 2005 - 12:55 #43
"Med" wrote:
yes, u knw best. Anyways, any further amal to maintain an imaan on tawheed?
yh
pray YA MUSARRIFUL QULOOB. SARRIF QULOOBANAA ALAA TAA ATIK
and YA MUQALLIBUL QULOOB THABBIT QULOOBANAA ALAA DEENIK..
our beloved prophet SAW advised us to prsy these two du'as and khud bhee parhtay thay
—
For SuccESS ATtiUtUde IZ jUsT Az IMporTAnt as ABiliTY
Submitted by Medarris on 2 November, 2005 - 14:29 #44
mashaALLAH, gud post.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by fizzy1 on 2 November, 2005 - 18:15 #45
ED - thank you for yr long explanation.
i found it interesting and useful even if others didnt
Submitted by Angel on 2 November, 2005 - 23:14 #46
"Seraph" wrote:
Ed, he said what is [b]THE[/b] biggest sin in Islam.
Not list as many sins as you can.
Extra knowledge doesn't go amiss...tut tut
thanks ed, it was informative.
Submitted by MastKuri on 3 November, 2005 - 13:37 #47
isn't the biggest sin in islam associating someone with ALLAH??? thats what i've heard
—
Actions speak louder than words!
Submitted by iRazor on 3 November, 2005 - 15:56 #48
I think Irfghan would agree,
THE BIGGEST SIN of ALL is praying to HALWA.
Its a conspiracy i tells you
—
_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________
Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight
Submitted by fizzy1 on 3 November, 2005 - 16:00 #49
"razor" wrote:
I think Irfghan would agree,
THE BIGGEST SIN of ALL is praying to HALWA.
Its a conspiracy i tells you
i dont get it
Submitted by Sirus on 3 November, 2005 - 16:01 #50
coz no1 gave it
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by fizzy1 on 3 November, 2005 - 16:04 #51
??? ok
Submitted by Angel on 3 November, 2005 - 16:12 #52
"fizzy1" wrote:
??? ok
fizzy boys will be boys, they are being sarcy...but the example razor gave was prayin to halwa which would be considered as "shirk" so your right razor, it is the biggest sin.
Submitted by MuSlImAh786 on 8 November, 2005 - 11:17 #53
yep i agree 'shirk' has to be de biggest sin...but remember in the eyes of ALLAH (swt) a sin is a sin no matter how big or small
—
I received nothing I wanted
I received everything I needed.
My Prayer has been answered.
Submitted by judda on 8 November, 2005 - 11:35 #54
the biggest sin is shirk
no doubt it is committed the most within the ummah
Arrogence and ignorence are HUGE sins
according to the koran sex b4 marriage nullifies all good deeds :evil:
but i dont think snogging duz :twisted:
Hyprocrosy is a HUGE sin too
so is suspician, koran says it is 20 times worse the eating ur deads broithers flesh [b]BUT WHY???[/b]
imo thats illogical, what if u got reason to suspect?
nowhere in the koran did god give any one authority to spy on sum1 :evil: :twisted:
—
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Missing your prayer, being bad to your parents, eating pork, rape, dating, murder, homosexuality, taking intoxicating drugs, drinking alcohol and adultery etc etc are all haram acts in Islam.
It’s pointless to get bogged down with the “which sin is worse” concept.
A minor sin repeated many times can become a major sin.
One should also focus on the hidden sins as well. And be aware of sins such as envy which is said to burn away good deeds the way fire burns wood…one should be aware of sins such as arrogance cos it is said that anyone with even an atoms weight of pride in their heart will not enter paradise….
One should avoid ALL sins, and not worry about which sin is worse.
Wasalaam
Submitted by judda on 8 November, 2005 - 12:03 #56
i know some ppl that committ major sins
then do everything they can to avoid the minor sins
—
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Submitted by Omrow on 9 November, 2005 - 17:09 #57
some of them others u mentioned Ed, dont understand em :?
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
if we suspect some people of commiting shirk , when asked they dont offer you a valid explanation quoting quran and hadith , but they say it is wrong not to take part, what is the best action to take ?
do you still take part even though you are unsure its shirk?
you dont take part and people say your wrong and a wahhabi?
If there is the risk of shirk, I would say abstain, better to be safe than sorry. At a given opportunity inquire as to the truth about the act, and then if it was ok do it next time, if it wasnt then u saved urself from it.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
best thing is to see what Quran, sunnah, ijma , qiyas has to sayy about teh matter.
what have the classicalscholars said about the matter.
if quran , sunnah and the classical scholars are silent on the matter....then avoid it.
if you think someone is doing an act that consists of shirk, dont go shouting 'shirk, shirk'... explain that this act goes against teh teachings of Islam because.....
Also give evidence, references....
even better consult an alim, get that perosn to consult an alim...
if all that doesnt work then leave it, you have done what you can do....by you enforcing your view on that person, he out of passion or ignorance will be adamant that what he is doing is correct and you are the misguided one.
we need to use hiqma (wisdom)
tiny point ed, dont get mad at me, its hikmah. the q is not consistent with the accepted roman transliteration that is in vogue. The k of english is what is commonly used for the kaaf of arabic.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
lol
no comment
mashaALLAH
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
wow....were gettin better arent we
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
do u prefer me to be the other way?
Oi who invited u to this convo, lover loverson?
lol
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
yes.......ur more funnier and less irritating this way
and maybe we may get on better, not a bad thing eh?
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
i aint too sure about that, ur diseased, i dnt wanna catch wt u've got. the restless nights, the deep sighs, the gazing into space, the mumbling of names, the moodswings, sometimes on a high, sometiems on a low. Stay away from me, u might be contagious.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Salam
And I bet that there were some sins that he can think of which did not even make the list !!
Anyway, one day Prophet Muhammad was preaching so many things concerning Islam to his companions. A person stood and asked whether the Prophet can tell him even easier way of entering Paradise. Prophet replied to him: If you do just one thing you will surely enter paradise. Stop lying forever.
This Tradition shows that [b]THE[/b] biggest sin is dishonesty.
It is the root of all evil.
If people only have some courage and speak the truth, so many problems can be solved.
Seraph. Backbiting is product of a soul that is lies.
Omrow
yh
pray YA MUSARRIFUL QULOOB. SARRIF QULOOBANAA ALAA TAA ATIK
and YA MUQALLIBUL QULOOB THABBIT QULOOBANAA ALAA DEENIK..
our beloved prophet SAW advised us to prsy these two du'as and khud bhee parhtay thay
For SuccESS ATtiUtUde IZ jUsT Az IMporTAnt as ABiliTY
mashaALLAH, gud post.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
ED - thank you for yr long explanation.
i found it interesting and useful even if others didnt
Extra knowledge doesn't go amiss...tut tut
thanks ed, it was informative.
isn't the biggest sin in islam associating someone with ALLAH??? thats what i've heard
Actions speak louder than words!
I think Irfghan would agree,
THE BIGGEST SIN of ALL is praying to HALWA.
Its a conspiracy i tells you
_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________
Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight
i dont get it
coz no1 gave it
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
??? ok
fizzy boys will be boys, they are being sarcy...but the example razor gave was prayin to halwa which would be considered as "shirk" so your right razor, it is the biggest sin.
yep i agree 'shirk' has to be de biggest sin...but remember in the eyes of ALLAH (swt) a sin is a sin no matter how big or small
I received nothing I wanted
I received everything I needed.
My Prayer has been answered.
the biggest sin is shirk
no doubt it is committed the most within the ummah
Arrogence and ignorence are HUGE sins
according to the koran sex b4 marriage nullifies all good deeds :evil:
but i dont think snogging duz :twisted:
Hyprocrosy is a HUGE sin too
so is suspician, koran says it is 20 times worse the eating ur deads broithers flesh [b]BUT WHY???[/b]
imo thats illogical, what if u got reason to suspect?
nowhere in the koran did god give any one authority to spy on sum1 :evil: :twisted:
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Salaam
Missing your prayer, being bad to your parents, eating pork, rape, dating, murder, homosexuality, taking intoxicating drugs, drinking alcohol and adultery etc etc are all haram acts in Islam.
It’s pointless to get bogged down with the “which sin is worse” concept.
A minor sin repeated many times can become a major sin.
One should also focus on the hidden sins as well. And be aware of sins such as envy which is said to burn away good deeds the way fire burns wood…one should be aware of sins such as arrogance cos it is said that anyone with even an atoms weight of pride in their heart will not enter paradise….
One should avoid ALL sins, and not worry about which sin is worse.
Wasalaam
i know some ppl that committ major sins
then do everything they can to avoid the minor sins
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
With you ?
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