Submitted by Sajid Iqbal on 24 October, 2005 - 19:45 #61
"naj" wrote:
"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
[
you're missing my point. i aint calling it crap. naj and khan1 called it brelwi crap. i said deobandi scholars allow it...so what does that make it? i dont disrespect acts ...i agree or disagree with them according to evidence, naj, khan1 and other new members on thsi forum call things 'CRAP' which they disagree with.
I hope you understand my point angel
excuse me mr ED, maybe u should read carefully BEFORE accusing me of calling it BRELWI CRAP, i did not say that nor did i agree with khan1.
then u accuse me of brelwi bashing , hating brelawis and labelling everything as brelawi crap and causing hatred on this forum all my GENERATION is brelawi got nawt against em, what cnt i voice my say without having to put up with people slandering me, no doubt i look up to deobandi SCHOLARS, what have i said wrong..maybe u should read the first post i made on this thread. got no time 2 go on time for iftari.
[it seems as naj, khan 1, mastkuri, jazzy, med are all obsessed with brelwi bashing and are full of hatred against brelwis, very quick to label everything they disagree with as brelwi crap, or 'hes a brelwi'.....
.
k, but i cant believe u said that...full of hatred thats strong,labelling things i dnt agree with brelawi crap toba kar, mr ed u are VERY quick on judging ppl that aint right, its like me saying sum of u lot labelling us as wahabis and so called wahabi crap.
Submitted by Sirus on 24 October, 2005 - 20:50 #63
i wholeheartedly agree with everying Chm1 has said
nor do i blame him for lashing out a lil.......
its gettin silly and the state of discussions is driving a lot of people away
there should be anti-sectarian tests people have to pass to join the forums :evil:
1 - if i see a Brelwi/Deobandi trip up, what do i do?
a - give him a hand
b - walk straight past
c - kick him while hes down
If you answered anything but A, please leave the forum
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Angel on 24 October, 2005 - 20:55 #64
"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
i wholeheartedly agree with everying Chm1 has said
nor do i blame him for lashing out a lil.......
its gettin silly and the state of discussions is driving a lot of people away
there should be anti-sectarian tests people have to pass to join the forums :evil:
1 - if i see a Brelwi/Deobandi trip up, what do i do?
a - give him a hand
b - walk straight past
c - kick him while hes down
If you answered anything but A, please leave the forum
Now if you see tweedleduh trip up:
What do u do?
A) Help him
Step over him/on him like he's not even there
C) Make sure he stays down.
Now all those that answered A please leave this forum NOW!
:twisted:
Submitted by Medarris on 24 October, 2005 - 21:04 #65
"Med" wrote:
[b]This is a non-issue [/b]until some make it into one, ie wen I get dirty looks by ppl and be accused of being a wahabi and am kicked out of mosque. Lol
For the benefit of those who have maligned me. My first post.
[b]This is a non-issue [/b]until some make it into one, ie wen I get dirty looks by ppl and be accused of being a wahabi and am kicked out of mosque. Lol
For the benefit of those who have maligned me. My first post.
I don't think you have been brought into it (yet) so you have not been insulted (in the recent posts).
One thing I have to ask is has khans1 actually studied Islam? From what I can se his only measure is wether 'brelvis' do it. If they do, it must be bidah, haraam, kufr or shirk.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Medarris on 24 October, 2005 - 21:10 #67
"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
[it seems as naj, khan 1, mastkuri, jazzy, [b]med [/b]are all obsessed with brelwi bashing and are full of hatred against brelwis, very quick to label everything they disagree with as brelwi crap, or 'hes a brelwi'.....
.
for your benefit Admin Brother.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Sajid Iqbal on 24 October, 2005 - 21:18 #68
"Med" wrote:
"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
[it seems as naj, khan 1, mastkuri, jazzy, [b]med [/b]are all obsessed with brelwi bashing and are full of hatred against brelwis, very quick to label everything they disagree with as brelwi crap, or 'hes a brelwi'.....
.
for your benefit Admin Brother.
you are as guilty as the rest. you started all this sectarian rubbish as soon as you arrived on this forum.
Apart from lil sis who always speaks out and fights against you and your friends backward views.. bless her.. most of the members ignore what you gotta say, they're probably more tolerant and patient than me..
.
awww so sweet
May God bless u too
Submitted by Sirus on 24 October, 2005 - 21:26 #70
"angel" wrote:
"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
i wholeheartedly agree with everying Chm1 has said
nor do i blame him for lashing out a lil.......
its gettin silly and the state of discussions is driving a lot of people away
there should be anti-sectarian tests people have to pass to join the forums :evil:
1 - if i see a Brelwi/Deobandi trip up, what do i do?
a - give him a hand
b - walk straight past
c - kick him while hes down
If you answered anything but A, please leave the forum
Now if you see tweedleduh trip up:
What do u do?
A) Help him
Step over him/on him like he's not even there
C) Make sure he stays down.
Now all those that answered A please leave this forum NOW!
:twisted:
oooooooh :shock:
thats been ur best shot by far
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Angel on 24 October, 2005 - 21:49 #71
"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
oooooooh :shock:
thats been ur best shot by far
there's plenty more where that came from!
Submitted by PRINCE on 25 October, 2005 - 16:35 #72
Can some body plz tell me why the world woz created and for whom? :?: and plz think b4 u answer.
—
Humko kiske gham ne mara ye kahani phir sahi
Submitted by PRINCE on 25 October, 2005 - 16:38 #73
oh and by the way eazy darth hwz it goin bro, long time no see.
—
Humko kiske gham ne mara ye kahani phir sahi
Submitted by Sirus on 25 October, 2005 - 17:46 #74
"PRINCE" wrote:
Can some body plz tell me why the world woz created and for whom? :?: and plz think b4 u answer.
what ya mean Princess?
Get your Naat book ready for sunday mate, and start tunin them vocal chords...were puttin on a show not to be forgotten
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Angel on 25 October, 2005 - 23:09 #75
"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
"PRINCE" wrote:
Can some body plz tell me why the world woz created and for whom? :?: and plz think b4 u answer.
what ya mean Princess?
Get your Naat book ready for sunday mate, and start tunin them vocal chords...were puttin on a show not to be forgotten
What naat you readin? Hope u aint gona torture ppl with your horrible voices! (messin)
For whom? All creation. If you were notwanted, you would not have been cerated.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Sirus on 25 October, 2005 - 23:14 #77
thankfully i wont be reading any
my lil bro calls me Owais Qadri, coz i try - but i am terrible really lol
i end up makin words!!!
luckily, Prince is an expert and can read any naat u want - the dude is blessed with a voice alhamdulillah
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by MastKuri on 28 October, 2005 - 21:14 #78
"irfghan" wrote:
"MastKuri" wrote:
"khans1" wrote:
again it sounds like some barelawwiy crap to me
thats coz it is khan :roll:
Some people are so DU[size=12]M[/size]B!!! :roll:
"yashmaki" wrote:
Quote:
[color=blue][b]Those who categorically condemn this practice altogether should realize that it is not a baseless act that was invented by some Muslims in the Indian Subcontinent. [/b][/color]
[color=red][b]It is something that is practiced in other parts of the Muslim and Arab world also, such as in Syria and Yemen. [/b][/color]
[color=green][b]If one was to visit the famous city of Syria Halab (Aleppo), one would see many Arab Muslims including scholars kissing their thumbs and placing them on their eyes upon hearing the name of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) during the Adhan.[/b][/color]
whats dumb in that MR i know it all?
—
Actions speak louder than words!
Submitted by Funzo on 28 October, 2005 - 21:57 #79
i think kissin your thumbs den puttin dem on your eyes is showing respect and khan dnt call it crap beacause dat is ignorance(ignorance means saying something which may offend some without the knowledge of the actual thing or situation) give me some real evidence it is dat den u can call it crap :x im a bit mad at you
—
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
I think what Irfghan meant was that sister Yashmaki went through the whole effort of research and gave a detailed post.
MastKuri came along and instead of reading and replying on the religious technical argument, she just stated an opinion that went against the proof provided without backing her position.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Angel on 28 October, 2005 - 22:10 #81
"Admin" wrote:
F4nzo: ???
I think what Irfghan meant was that sister Yashmaki went through the whole effort of research and gave a detailed post.
MastKuri came along and instead of reading and replying on the religious technical argument, she just stated an opinion that went against the proof provided without backing her position.
and the point of your post was, wasnt fanzo sayin the same thing?
I did not understand what he was saying as when talking eh was like you know well forgetting to you know like breathe and you know.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Angel on 28 October, 2005 - 22:16 #83
"Admin" wrote:
hence the ???
I did not understand what he was saying as when talking eh was like you know well forgetting to you know like breathe and you know.
lol well just add some fullstops here and there, all becomes clear :roll:
Mastkuri whos Mr-know-it-all?
Submitted by Beast on 28 October, 2005 - 22:30 #84
"MastKuri" wrote:
"irfghan" wrote:
"MastKuri" wrote:
"khans1" wrote:
again it sounds like some barelawwiy crap to me
thats coz it is khan :roll:
Some people are so DU[size=12]M[/size]B!!! :roll:
"yashmaki" wrote:
Quote:
[color=blue][b]Those who categorically condemn this practice altogether should realize that it is not a baseless act that was invented by some Muslims in the Indian Subcontinent. [/b][/color]
[color=red][b]It is something that is practiced in other parts of the Muslim and Arab world also, such as in Syria and Yemen. [/b][/color]
[color=green][b]If one was to visit the famous city of Syria Halab (Aleppo), one would see many Arab Muslims including scholars kissing their thumbs and placing them on their eyes upon hearing the name of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) during the Adhan.[/b][/color]
whats [banned word] in that MR i know it all?
Let me du[size=12]m[/size]b it down for you.
The subject is kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned. OK? Understand?
Khans1 said that this is a Brelwi thing. Yes?
You said that you agree with him. Didn't you?
You said that you agree that this is a Brelwi thing. Right?
Yashmaki had quoted a short peice of text about kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned. Didn't she? Did you read it?
In that text it was stated that kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned is not something that happens only in the Subcontinent. It said that this also happens in Syria and Yemen. - 'Brelwis' come from the Subcontinent. - 'Brelwis' do not come from Syria and Yemen. - If kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned was only a Brelwi thing then people in Syria and Yemen wouldn't be doing it.
You responed to the 6th post on this thread and ignored the 11th post on the very first page just to make a baseless prejudicial statement.
For ignoring Yashmaki's post just to make a childish remark you are du[size=12]m[/size]b.
Comprende?
Submitted by Angel on 28 October, 2005 - 22:33 #85
Well done irf that should make it clear to all those slow ppl who need a lil catchin up
Submitted by Funzo on 29 October, 2005 - 12:55 #86
"angel" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:
F4nzo: ???
I think what Irfghan meant was that sister Yashmaki went through the whole effort of research and gave a detailed post.
MastKuri came along and instead of reading and replying on the religious technical argument, she just stated an opinion that went against the proof provided without backing her position.
and the point of your post was, wasnt fanzo sayin the same thing?
exactly
—
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Submitted by hEAVenSenT on 29 October, 2005 - 21:22 #87
right salam to anyone who reads this but this particular subject caught my eye.. i see its gone slightly off track along the way but i have to agree wth quite a few of u guyz here. this thumb kissing biznes duz sound kinda bid'ati to me...and im saying this because im currently studying at an islamic theology and law school, and in all my years i've been there ive never witnessed this practice of kissing the thumbs/placing on eyes whatever it is when ever our prophet SAWs name is mentioned. As you probably know some folks would take it as an act of utmost respect for our prophet SAW however, and rather adamantly follow their beliefs i would say. and another thing alot of people don't know the difference between culture/religion/belief so i suppose its a matter of opinion.. and as for scholars... hmm thats another topic altogether...
—
For SuccESS ATtiUtUde IZ jUsT Az IMporTAnt as ABiliTY
If you have not come across an anct, the first step is to research it.Yashmaki provided the proof that it is permissible.
Now either argue against the proof or hold your silence. I am all for intellectual discussion, But this is starting to annoy.
side 1: here is my position. Here is my proof.
Side 2: bit you stink!
Side1: did you look at my proof?
Side 2: Take a bath!
Side 1: ermm... ok...
Side 2: I told you you were wrong!
side 1: how? You have not refued my argument!
Side 2: haaahah!
Now if you wanna air an opinion after someone has gone through the effort of research, at a minimum use the courtesy of acknowledging the persons proof. Secondly counter it if you have the proof to do so.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by hEAVenSenT on 30 October, 2005 - 12:35 #89
thanx.i will do.its not an own goal im tryna get sain straight here.no need to be so harsh.
—
For SuccESS ATtiUtUde IZ jUsT Az IMporTAnt as ABiliTY
btw, just noticed a spelling mistake in the title!
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i meant mast kuri, my fault.
k, but i cant believe u said that...full of hatred thats strong,labelling things i dnt agree with brelawi crap toba kar, mr ed u are VERY quick on judging ppl that aint right, its like me saying sum of u lot labelling us as wahabis and so called wahabi crap.
i wholeheartedly agree with everying Chm1 has said
nor do i blame him for lashing out a lil.......
its gettin silly and the state of discussions is driving a lot of people away
there should be anti-sectarian tests people have to pass to join the forums :evil:
1 - if i see a Brelwi/Deobandi trip up, what do i do?
a - give him a hand
b - walk straight past
c - kick him while hes down
If you answered anything but A, please leave the forum
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Now if you see tweedleduh trip up:
What do u do?
A) Help him
Step over him/on him like he's not even there
C) Make sure he stays down.
Now all those that answered A please leave this forum NOW!
:twisted:
For the benefit of those who have maligned me. My first post.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
I don't think you have been brought into it (yet) so you have not been insulted (in the recent posts).
One thing I have to ask is has khans1 actually studied Islam? From what I can se his only measure is wether 'brelvis' do it. If they do, it must be bidah, haraam, kufr or shirk.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
for your benefit Admin Brother.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
you are as guilty as the rest. you started all this sectarian rubbish as soon as you arrived on this forum.
awww so sweet
May God bless u too
oooooooh :shock:
thats been ur best shot by far
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
there's plenty more where that came from!
Can some body plz tell me why the world woz created and for whom? :?: and plz think b4 u answer.
Humko kiske gham ne mara ye kahani phir sahi
oh and by the way eazy darth hwz it goin bro, long time no see.
Humko kiske gham ne mara ye kahani phir sahi
what ya mean Princess?
Get your Naat book ready for sunday mate, and start tunin them vocal chords...were puttin on a show not to be forgotten
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
What naat you readin? Hope u aint gona torture ppl with your horrible voices! (messin)
The world was created so God could be known.
For whom? All creation. If you were notwanted, you would not have been cerated.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
thankfully i wont be reading any
my lil bro calls me Owais Qadri, coz i try - but i am terrible really lol
i end up makin words!!!
luckily, Prince is an expert and can read any naat u want - the dude is blessed with a voice alhamdulillah
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
whats dumb in that MR i know it all?
Actions speak louder than words!
i think kissin your thumbs den puttin dem on your eyes is showing respect and khan dnt call it crap beacause dat is ignorance(ignorance means saying something which may offend some without the knowledge of the actual thing or situation) give me some real evidence it is dat den u can call it crap :x im a bit mad at you
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
F4nzo: ???
I think what Irfghan meant was that sister Yashmaki went through the whole effort of research and gave a detailed post.
MastKuri came along and instead of reading and replying on the religious technical argument, she just stated an opinion that went against the proof provided without backing her position.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
and the point of your post was, wasnt fanzo sayin the same thing?
hence the ???
I did not understand what he was saying as when talking eh was like you know well forgetting to you know like breathe and you know.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
lol well just add some fullstops here and there, all becomes clear :roll:
Mastkuri whos Mr-know-it-all?
Let me du[size=12]m[/size]b it down for you.
The subject is kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned. OK? Understand?
Khans1 said that this is a Brelwi thing. Yes?
You said that you agree with him. Didn't you?
You said that you agree that this is a Brelwi thing. Right?
Yashmaki had quoted a short peice of text about kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned. Didn't she? Did you read it?
In that text it was stated that kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned is not something that happens only in the Subcontinent. It said that this also happens in Syria and Yemen.
- 'Brelwis' come from the Subcontinent.
- 'Brelwis' do not come from Syria and Yemen.
- If kissing your thumbs when Prophet is mentioned was only a Brelwi thing then people in Syria and Yemen wouldn't be doing it.
You responed to the 6th post on this thread and ignored the 11th post on the very first page just to make a baseless prejudicial statement.
For ignoring Yashmaki's post just to make a childish remark you are du[size=12]m[/size]b.
Comprende?
Well done irf that should make it clear to all those slow ppl who need a lil catchin up
exactly
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
right salam to anyone who reads this but this particular subject caught my eye.. i see its gone slightly off track along the way but i have to agree wth quite a few of u guyz here. this thumb kissing biznes duz sound kinda bid'ati to me...and im saying this because im currently studying at an islamic theology and law school, and in all my years i've been there ive never witnessed this practice of kissing the thumbs/placing on eyes whatever it is when ever our prophet SAWs name is mentioned. As you probably know some folks would take it as an act of utmost respect for our prophet SAW however, and rather adamantly follow their beliefs i would say. and another thing alot of people don't know the difference between culture/religion/belief so i suppose its a matter of opinion.. and as for scholars... hmm thats another topic altogether...
For SuccESS ATtiUtUde IZ jUsT Az IMporTAnt as ABiliTY
supreme goal, don'te make it an own goal.
If you have not come across an anct, the first step is to research it.Yashmaki provided the proof that it is permissible.
Now either argue against the proof or hold your silence. I am all for intellectual discussion, But this is starting to annoy.
side 1: here is my position. Here is my proof.
Side 2: bit you stink!
Side1: did you look at my proof?
Side 2: Take a bath!
Side 1: ermm... ok...
Side 2: I told you you were wrong!
side 1: how? You have not refued my argument!
Side 2: haaahah!
Now if you wanna air an opinion after someone has gone through the effort of research, at a minimum use the courtesy of acknowledging the persons proof. Secondly counter it if you have the proof to do so.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
thanx.i will do.its not an own goal im tryna get sain straight here.no need to be so harsh.
For SuccESS ATtiUtUde IZ jUsT Az IMporTAnt as ABiliTY
Sorry about my harshness.
btw, just noticed a spelling mistake in the title!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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