Someone, who shall remain nameless fiddycent, wants to know why in juma when the molvi is doing takreer do ppl sit with thier hands clasped then ther is a pause and they seperate the hands and place them on the knees?
Anyone know?
I don't.
Submitted by equanimity on 21 October, 2005 - 17:58 #2
i dont do it as my molvi in the mousque never thought me , also i have never read it in any book, but someone answer question , very interesting
has to be a khutbah for jummah to be valid aint it?
also, wen he sits down and gets back up for the second time....that few seoncds inbetween, its one of those most importnant times when ur dua's get answered
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
The preferred way is to sit in saff, as there will be less turbulance between the khutbah, and the actual congregational prayer.
In the past others had sat, all facing the khateeb, but it was thought superior to sit in saff.
however the bit where they hold their hands as in prayer, there is no need to do so.
One more thing; the Azaan before the khutbah is a part of the khutbah. You are not allowed to speak during it. Not even to tell another to shut up.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Medarris on 21 October, 2005 - 22:32 #5
Hayder bro I think he was askin y ppl have hands clasped for first khutbah and then place hands in tashahhud position for second khutbah.
I dont knw is my answer. Dont do it, cos never been told to do it by our Teachers, may their blessings shower upon us continually.
This is a non-issue, if ppl want to do that let them, if ppl dnt then let them.
But som1 who DOES do it, could possibly explain if there is a reason for it?
As you have said, its a non issue. I just expanded it further to seating positions as I have (lightly) studied the issue a while back...
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i doubt theres anything wrong with doing it, but....
i do it coz all the mosques i go to do it
but i want to know as well
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by equanimity on 22 October, 2005 - 00:57 #8
bro i have many mosques around my area all have slightly different ways when reading jumma , i stick to what i learned and what i know, dont copy others cos they may be wrong , someone can invent something , someone copy cos he dont know if its correct someone else copy him, in the end everyone does it but no one knows why
bro i have many mosques around my area all have slightly different ways when reading jumma , i stick to what i learned and what i know, dont copy others cos they may be wrong , someone can invent something , someone copy cos he dont know if its correct someone else copy him, in the end everyone does it but no one knows why
sound familiar?
familiar....? im not readin the same page as you i think!
yup, i stick to what i learned too, like i said - i follow what i know and seen
but some people are too worried about inventions, even when it is a non-issue, something so minor
priorities are all messed up
i read jummah at uni, and they dont do that thing at all....jus a speech in english and then fardh...not even a dua after fardh.........all seemed very unfamiliar to me.....but what the heck, aint a biggy
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by equanimity on 22 October, 2005 - 01:05 #10
of course bro no biggy , its a minor , i jus find its interesting people do it with out knowing lol
any way the main thing is to read namaz
Submitted by Sirus on 22 October, 2005 - 01:07 #11
some verses are read, maybe from the Quran or something else
how its bad beats me
but i have the khutbah book, i'll see if that says anything
i dont know about it......neither do you......so its not an issue i think
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
The khutbah is waajib. So you must be there for it.
Otherwise (I believe) you have to pray zuhr, and not jummu'ah
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Someone, who shall remain nameless fiddycent, wants to know why in juma when the molvi is doing takreer do ppl sit with thier hands clasped then ther is a pause and they seperate the hands and place them on the knees?
Anyone know?
I don't.
i dont do it as my molvi in the mousque never thought me , also i have never read it in any book, but someone answer question , very interesting
its the khutbah
has to be a khutbah for jummah to be valid aint it?
also, wen he sits down and gets back up for the second time....that few seoncds inbetween, its one of those most importnant times when ur dua's get answered
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
you can sit however you like.
Khutbah is waajib to listen to.
The preferred way is to sit in saff, as there will be less turbulance between the khutbah, and the actual congregational prayer.
In the past others had sat, all facing the khateeb, but it was thought superior to sit in saff.
however the bit where they hold their hands as in prayer, there is no need to do so.
One more thing; the Azaan before the khutbah is a part of the khutbah. You are not allowed to speak during it. Not even to tell another to shut up.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Hayder bro I think he was askin y ppl have hands clasped for first khutbah and then place hands in tashahhud position for second khutbah.
I dont knw is my answer. Dont do it, cos never been told to do it by our Teachers, may their blessings shower upon us continually.
This is a non-issue, if ppl want to do that let them, if ppl dnt then let them.
But som1 who DOES do it, could possibly explain if there is a reason for it?
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
true Med.
As you have said, its a non issue. I just expanded it further to seating positions as I have (lightly) studied the issue a while back...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
aye, a non-issue indeed
i doubt theres anything wrong with doing it, but....
i do it coz all the mosques i go to do it
but i want to know as well
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
bro i have many mosques around my area all have slightly different ways when reading jumma , i stick to what i learned and what i know, dont copy others cos they may be wrong , someone can invent something , someone copy cos he dont know if its correct someone else copy him, in the end everyone does it but no one knows why
sound familiar?
familiar....? im not readin the same page as you i think!
yup, i stick to what i learned too, like i said - i follow what i know and seen
but some people are too worried about inventions, even when it is a non-issue, something so minor
priorities are all messed up
i read jummah at uni, and they dont do that thing at all....jus a speech in english and then fardh...not even a dua after fardh.........all seemed very unfamiliar to me.....but what the heck, aint a biggy
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
of course bro no biggy , its a minor , i jus find its interesting people do it with out knowing lol
any way the main thing is to read namaz
some verses are read, maybe from the Quran or something else
how its bad beats me
but i have the khutbah book, i'll see if that says anything
i dont know about it......neither do you......so its not an issue i think
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
The khutbah is waajib. So you must be there for it.
Otherwise (I believe) you have to pray zuhr, and not jummu'ah
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.