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are you lot speaking greek here?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
know how much you hate using arabic words when the english would be perfectly fine
but in grammar some of the term dont exist in English. and for any term, we first learn them in arabic and use the english term just to be able to understand the rule. Using the english terms would confuse us to level 1000.
Appreciate the magic of the way arabic links us together. all of that i learnt in french but im able to understand what Muslimbro is talking about because of the Arabic
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
Mabni - words which are constant on an i'raab and do not change. Opposite of mu'rab.
One of my teachers when learning back home memorised the whole Arabic grammar book when he was young; reason being that he was scared of the stick. As a result his Arabic is very strong and he still remembers everything. He also has managed to not only understand, but memorise advanced Arabic books. Which nowadays very few people can do.
you wrote madbi....
alright, give the stick a chance...
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
Depends where you study. If you took the example of Syria - Abu Noor is quite cheap compared to somewhere like University of Damascus. The accommodation is the same thing, depends how comfortably you want to live.
In England, most of the places are quite expensive. The place I go to charges half of what an institute close to my house charges so you've got to look around.
This should enlighten you.
I think there needs to be a middle path between the two there.
The traditional approach seems to prefer rote learning over understanding.
The Uni approach seems to favour understanding/concepts over the actual details of the study material.
What we need is both as too amny traditionally qualified scholars seem to come across as either unthinking or unable to think IMO.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I would disagree - both are present.
so as i was saying in a completely unrelated topic...
i have stopped the arabic class i used to go to...it was lame anyway...i only went about 3/4 times, so a month...
it wasnt proper teaching/learning...
ohh well...
i found this book at home...arabic through the Quran (im guessing its gona be classical arabic) in 40 lessons, i might give it a go...
Im also trying to sign up for this Tajweed online class...im not sure yet..will keep you posted.
BIJOU THIS IS THE PLACE TO POST!
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Hurraahh!!!Thanks Lilly..
DOES ANYONE KNOW A PLACE IN LONDON WHERE I CAN GET ARABIC LANGUAGE CLASSES AND ISLAMIC STUDIES?
I'm considering either A Level and or BA in Islamic Studies. But I think with Arabic I will need to start at like beginner level!
The Islamic College in Willesden is ruled out as its Shia run. I'm looking for something in the Sunni line...
Please let me know.
Your own soul is nourished when you are kind; it is destroyed when you are cruel.
Irrelevant post: Leeds.
I thought the same - it says something about being Shi'ah on their leaflet. Anyway a friend of mine goes there and when I asked her about it, she said it isn't Shi'ah focused at all and it goes through different schools of thought. I'll try to get some more info and let you know InshaAllah.
By the way, are you looking for something that gives you some sort of qualification or is it ok getting just a completion acknowledgement?
Jihad of the Nafs (The Struggle of the Soul)
Anyway, errrmmm I am looking for something with a recognised qualification , otherwise if I start ranting off people will be like er...you don't have no qualification to be talking and this and that :doubt: ...but yeah qualification would be good .
JazakAllah.
Your own soul is nourished when you are kind; it is destroyed when you are cruel.
Oki dokey! I'll let you know if I come across anything - I was thinking about SOAS - the single year course i wanted to do is too expensive though (i was going to do Arabic at university level but realised it would be better to learn the basics before doing it)
Jihad of the Nafs (The Struggle of the Soul)
Yeah Uni level is very expensive, and I don't think we get government help...hhmm will need to look into it.
But thanks again!
Your own soul is nourished when you are kind; it is destroyed when you are cruel.
about my quitting my arabic class:
summary: teacher doesnt like me BUT
its not just me.
its her whole family and my whole family. they supposedly dont like us.
we're not even close..its just..really weird and unmuslim-like...
but she wasnt being fair..she was talking about her wedding during the class with another student..and well..we found out she was guetting married before that so we knew what she was tlaking about (me and my sis) but she hasnt told us anything..so thats kinda dodgy too :doubt:
it doesnt feel right to go back if im being thought of this way and treated that way...
ALSO, it wasnt such a big deal. I have this arabic book, it was kinda the same as doing it alone, except she would mark the work i did and correct my mistakes and interrogate me on stuff i learn (vocab etc...)
But, its not like she got any qualification either...so...i dont know...not a great loss...just means i wont get my work marked by anyone...
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
Lol ! ( I just had to have a lil grin there whilst reading lol sorry)
Ok erm...considering shes not qualified and doesnt seem to be fair on the students equally she doesnt seem like a very good role model, or teacher for that matter.
And in regards to her not liking you, she seems quit childish to be honest, if the families have a dispute whats it got to do with you (I'm assuming you havent done anything wrong lol), but I guess its natural or human nature or whatever that if her family doesnt like yours she wouldnt like you and likewise.
IF she was qualified and fair I would say ignore her childish behaviour and just attend the classes, but like you said it doesnt seem to be a great loss- so do what you gotta do.
Also, is learning arabic alone a good idea?I've been told its really difficult and you need a good teacher... :?
Your own soul is nourished when you are kind; it is destroyed when you are cruel.
and i've heard learning alone is really bad and leads to all sorts of bad stuff, which i gotta agree with and acknowledge. i would personally never put forward any of the knowledge i acquired by myself, it cant be trusted.
and to be honest...i've done quite a bit alone, but not much stays in your head and you dont actually LEARN anything...
i'm on a big STALL
truly the only good thing i can remember is "Inna wa akhawatouha" (some gramatical thing) which i did with my teacher just before she got married and went away. (she was a proper teacher and she was FREAKING AWESOME, MAshallah! may ALlah reward her with Jannatul FIrdaws for everything she's done for us)
ALso, ive studied in more than one madrassad and with more than one teacher and with more than one teacher and method of teaching so my knowledge is ALL over the place. I cant actually tell you somehting i've learn and understood FULLY when i was learning alone. (as there is no guarantee i learnt it right)
so learning alone is useless, i guess.
but i need to maintain what i learnt. and i learnt it young and forgotten it, so i could reinforce, and im older, so it would be easier and make sense. There is also lots of other stuff to learn like memorizing Quran which i can do by myself and reading books.
back to current "teacher": its pretty childish, i've always found her pretty childish, she's about 2 years my eldest. (nowt wrong with that, ive had teachers who were younger than me, by a few months but still) you're completely allowed to laugh. ITs so stupid...
i dunno, she's part of her family, so if her family doesnt like us then she cant like us. and well..gotta stick with MY family, if she doesnt like someone in my family that hasnt done anythign wrong...then...(lets stop there before i say somethign innapropriate)
as i was saying Im on a big STALL.
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qualifications are not everything.
Maybe she new the other students better/was related or something?
If someone is of use, make use of the situation.
On the other hand, I would severely dislike to learn something from someone I had no intention of respecting...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
qualification gives reassurance to learner.
yeah, she knew the girl, but thats not how you act when you're a teacher.
i respected her! she was older and had more knowledge. But it wasnt a charismatic kinda respect. it was just coz i had to. She didnt earn it in any way.
(remember the whole, "everyone starts with 100%"??)
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