Salaams all
This is from a discussion on Tribune...
The question is... Since Islam did NOT prohibit slavery... does Islam not consider freedom a basic human right?
Islam did give all humans rights, and it does highly encourage freeing slaves. However, it does/did not prohibit slavery.
So... does that mean that freedom is not a basic right?
Taking this further, what about supporting fight for freedom in places such as Kashmir, Chechnya/Ossettia and Palestine? If Islam does not say that all humans are free, where do those struggles stand?
Is freedom really that big of a thing?
Taking this further, some people make really big accusations against Islam. Are there any good answers?
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Question: Cows are sometimes fed alcohol to make their meat more tender. If they are slaughtered according to Islamic custom, is the meat halaal?
Answer: This is not permissible to do, as the fiqh principle is that, "Anything not permitted to consume is not permitted to give," [Ibn Nujaym, al-Ashbah] even to animals.
However, if an animal was fed the haram, then it is permitted to have their meat. There is dislikedness in having it within a period in which even indirect traces of the haram remain in the meat--and it is prohibited if the traces of the haram are manifest in it.
And Allah alone gives success.
Faraz Rabbani
Thanks for that answer to the other question I asked.
In short the answer you gave is:
1. Muslims are not allowed to feed haraam food with cattle.
2. As long as the effects of the feed do not pass onto the consumers, the meat is not haraam.
Correct?
If so, prime beef is halaal as long as it is slaughtered to Islamic standards. I hear it is used for some really expensive burgers in America.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Everyone entitled to basic freedom?
Yes and no.
No in that it is permissable for someone to be a slave.
Yes in that there are rights which a slave has.
As contrast, when the slave trade was prevalent in America, slaves were property, owned and without any rights. In Islam, slaves are still regarded as people. They have basic human rights like a wage, the right to negotiate a bond of labour/wages which will terminate their slavery, the right to be respected (a person is not allowed to call their slave a 'slave') and to eat and be clothed up to the standard of the person they work for. In my opinion they are butlers tweaked a bit to make them look like slaves and trick people into thinking they have slaves. Like vegetarian sausages.
There is reasoning behind why slavery was permitted deven though it was disliked. It was an ingrainned part of the culture at the time. However, despite being permitted there is a constant move towards freeing slaves. Here, there and everywhere freeing a slave is often among the penitant actions when someone slips up.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
So was alcohol and idolatory...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Slavery wasn't abolished by the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) because that would have crashed the whole system. In fact, slaves got so many rights and encouraging slaves was sometimes enforceable. Individual slaves could be freed but the trade wasn't abolished altogether, plus Muhammad (pbuh) HATED slavery, that's why he treated Zayed bin Thabit like a son.
By the way, slavery is diffrent from servitude. Being a servant is, in theory at least, optional, while slaves had no choice. We are Servants of Allah, as we have free will, not slaves.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
But couild not you say the same for idolatory and alcohol?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=675&CATE=115
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=712&CATE=115
Idolatory and alcohol were seen to be worse sins than slavery. Do you know even alcohol was initially allowed, and banned gradually? Maybe abolishing slavery altogether was seen as a too radical step, instead slavery was only abolished in practice.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
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couldnt you argue the same about the American South
One day they had slavery, the next they dont
It's funny
I bet wen we think about the slaves in America we get really riled up, thinking whoa thatsa just injustice and so wrong
but
wen the arabs had african slaves, thats ok?
it may have been part of their ways, but I doubt the system would have crashed if they removed slaves
other countries managed
Err, you could... IF that's what happened. But slavery didn't disappear overnight, and racism carried on (and by 'racism' I don't mean rude words, I mean lynchings).
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