[quote=Naz

Im sorry but what a load of crap. Just coz society says women have to look and dress a certain way in order to look "beautiful" doesn’t mean to say society is right. If a man only appreciates you for the clothes you wear, the 3 inches of slap or the fact that you have perfect straight white teeth well then the shallow sod aint worth bothering with.

As regards to braces and wearing them for vanity purposes that is not true. My older sis had to have braces for a couple of years coz they had to do an operation on her jaw. Having her jaw broken and pushed back and having metal screws put near her nasal passages and then being told your allergic to morphine was NOT for beautification purposes!!!
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well said naz!!!!

Hajjar wrote:

im not the one who suggested it was for vanity if you read what brother Yaqub said you'll see he mentioned it, i merely put forward a view. I never said society was right or wrong i said society says in general women must look beautiful for mens eyes,theres a difference.

BTW i had braces i went through a lot of hospital appointments,pain and all the rest so why are you blowing off steam on me?I think you need to calm down a bit.
Your sisters ordeal sounds horrendous, she had issues unrelated to typical asthetic dentistry. We are talking about simply needing braces to straighten teeth no other reason.

I'll say this your uncle is an exceptional man, many brothers these days are very fussy, and very much into asthetics, yes they care about the deeni issues but they want the future wife to be perfect physically aswell. There's nothing wrong with wanting beauty just wanting perfection, coz it cannot be found on this earth.

But ive come to agree with brother yaqub many things we do in society to beautify ourselves is for vanity.I don't think they're all in vain though as Brother Yaqub is suggesting i think...If it maeks us feel better, if it's pleasing for our spouses, if it's not against the laws of our faith, nor against hijab rules whats wrong with it?, nothing.

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Ok i think you need to calm down love you've got the wrong end of the stick. I know it was Yaqub that made the comment about braces being worn for vanity reasons and i was disagreeing with his comment i never said that you said it, sorry if i gave you that impression. You did make a comment about how society perceives women and i disagreed with the comment made. Again that was not aimed at you specifically but rather at society in general. Hope that makes sense.

Isn't it interesting how defensive vain people get when they are accused of vanity.

I said from the very beginning that there are SOME cases where braces are necessary for hygeine/health.

everything else is just silly. And the fact that you guys are arguing zealously shows that you are unsure and you're trying to convince yourselves.

Noone argues so zealously about the sky being blue.