I think two different things got crossed in this topic. Being Socia[b]ble[/b]. and Being Social.

[b]Social:[/b] have a long list of friends that you are constantly in contact with, outgoing yadda yadda.
[b]Sociable:[/b] Having the basic skills to function is society. being able to hold up a conversation. Having a sense of humour... blah blah.

A sociable person can be un/anti social. and Unsocial person can be sociable and a social person can be unsociable. All other variations probably also happen.

That has confused this topic as both terms have been used interchangeably.

"Ya'qub" wrote:

-if you have your profile 'hidden' then you are anti-social
-if you don't have your profile 'hidden' you may still be anti-social, but also technophobic.

Is that directed at someone in particular?

"Snoopz" wrote:

In my “jahaliya” days I was a lot more sociable. This wasn’t necessarily a good thing.. SOMETIMES the more people you know the more crap/backbiting your likely to get involved with… but it depends on the company you keep and the people you socialise with and your intentions etc

I too was a lot more social, when I was a teenager. I blame the girls I used to hang around with.

I think Islam holds you back at times (in a good way)...Christmas parties in school are going to be coming up - I'll prob be the one in the staffroom, reading a magazine or on my phone whilst the rest of the staff are singing, dancing and getting merry.

Anti-social actually means to hate people and stuff like that. You know, to be agressive.
NOT to be shy.

I'm quite social and sociable, I chat to almost everyone. But I do my best not to overdo it.

"MuslimSister" wrote:

"Snoopz" wrote:

In my “jahaliya” days I was a lot more sociable. This wasn’t necessarily a good thing.. SOMETIMES the more people you know the more crap/backbiting your likely to get involved with… but it depends on the company you keep and the people you socialise with and your intentions etc

I too was a lot more social, when I was a teenager. I blame the girls I used to hang around with.

I think Islam holds you back at times (in a good way)...Christmas parties in school are going to be coming up - I'll prob be the one in the staffroom, reading a magazine or on my phone whilst the rest of the staff are singing, dancing and getting merry.

do u see it as any way hypocritical that u encouraged non-muslims 2 celebrate eid with u but u dont celebrate their festivals with them?

"Ya'qub" wrote:

"MuslimSister" wrote:

"Snoopz" wrote:

In my “jahaliya” days I was a lot more sociable. This wasn’t necessarily a good thing.. SOMETIMES the more people you know the more crap/backbiting your likely to get involved with… but it depends on the company you keep and the people you socialise with and your intentions etc

I too was a lot more social, when I was a teenager. I blame the girls I used to hang around with.

I think Islam holds you back at times (in a good way)...Christmas parties in school are going to be coming up - I'll prob be the one in the staffroom, reading a magazine or on my phone whilst the rest of the staff are singing, dancing and getting merry.

do u see it as any way hypocritical that u encouraged non-muslims 2 celebrate eid with u but u dont celebrate their festivals with them?

The kids in my class made Eid cards and learnt Arabic Nasheeds - they hardly 'celebrated' it.

During Xmas time, I'll be making xmas cards with them, giving out xmas cards to members of staff, learning/teaching them numerous xmas songs, planning a nativity play, taking them to see a xmas concert, having a class xmas party, preparing a trip from Santa, eating xmas lunch with them, pulling crackers,....and accepting their xmas presents.

The only thing I'll be avoiding is staff xmas parties as they contain alcohol.

Thats fair enough, i was just clarifying.
Evry1 @ work is preparing 4 th christmas party, having secret santa etc. Part of me wants 2 go, i had a great time a couple of yrs ago- it was before i converted but i stil wasnt drinking or anything. I dont think i'l go this year, even if its th only time of th year i can crack open my tuxedo!

Last year at work they had all organised a xmas doo, think they were going to pub then out clubbin. I said i couldnt go for the obvious reason and they changed there plans for me (didnt want me to feel left out). We ended up going to a halal restaurant. This yr im just going along with it and saying yeah im coming but last minute im gonna say no coz that way they cant change their plans. I feel really tight, why should they have to change their plans for me. Plus i dont even celebrate xmas so whats the point.

"Naz" wrote:

Last year at work they had all organised a xmas doo, think they were going to pub then out clubbin. I said i couldnt go for the obvious reason and they changed there plans for me (didnt want me to feel left out). We ended up going to a halal restaurant. This yr im just going along with it and saying yeah im coming but last minute im gonna say no coz that way they cant change their plans. I feel really tight, why should they have to change their plans for me. Plus i dont even celebrate xmas so whats the point.

thats not very nice uno
jus tell them u kant come nw

"M4k4v3l1" wrote:

"Naz" wrote:

Last year at work they had all organised a xmas doo, think they were going to pub then out clubbin. I said i couldnt go for the obvious reason and they changed there plans for me (didnt want me to feel left out). We ended up going to a halal restaurant. This yr im just going along with it and saying yeah im coming but last minute im gonna say no coz that way they cant change their plans. I feel really tight, why should they have to change their plans for me. Plus i dont even celebrate xmas so whats the point.

thats not very nice uno
jus tell them u kant come nw

yeah true but they are all really excited and looking forward to getting drunk. If i say something now they are just gonna change their plans to suit me and i dont want them to.

so you wud rather LIEEEE to them?
LIE to them?
LIE?

"M4k4v3l1" wrote:

so you wud rather LIEEEE to them?
LIE to them?
LIE?

If it was a situation which the only option was to lie, wouldn't you think that lying is better than being associated with the evils of alcohol and the attributes it comes with?

I know that you where joking with your comment but in the context of what your saying it makes a pretty good argument if you where being serious.

Well Naz, why don't you tell them to go without you from the beginning? You know: "Don't bother, I'm just, 'going to be ill'" or something like that.

Its not lying its humouring. They wont take no for an answer. Plus they organised summit proper yet anyway.

honest is almost always the best policy

"Honesty and promise me I'm never gonna find you fake it. No, no, no!"
Sorry, just had to do that.
Yeah, unless you're being held by some GREAT enemy, honesty is the best policy. Because when people find out that you lied so often, well it's your tough luck.

"Courage" wrote:

"Honesty and promise me I'm never gonna find you fake it. No, no, no!"
Sorry, just had to do that.
Yeah, unless you're being held by some GREAT enemy, honesty is the best policy. Because when people find out that you lied so often, well it's your tough luck.

No, honesty is the best policy pretty much all the time wth few exceptions.

Salam

I think most people often dont know exactly why they are in a gathering or among other people.

You need to get your motives clear BEFORE you walk in and try things.

[b]If you want to defeat people, aim at the minds.

If you want to win people, aim at their hearts. [/b]

Omrow

what in the blue hell are you talking about?!?!?

"Omrow" wrote:

[b]If you want to defeat people, aim at the minds.

If you want to win people, aim at their hearts. [/b]

Actually you will want to aim at there hearts to defeat them, you will have to weaken them from the heart.
To win them over you will have to convince them hence you aim at the minds.

"Funzo" wrote:

"Omrow" wrote:

[b]If you want to defeat people, aim at the minds.

If you want to win people, aim at their hearts. [/b]

Actually you will want to aim at there hearts to defeat them, you will have to weaken them from the heart.
To win them over you will have to convince them hence you aim at the minds.

this illustrates why omrow is the master & funzo is not allowed 2 become a student yet.

explain yourself? you dare defy me! funzo!

Salam

Most boys have no success with the inferior species because their target is all wrong.

The boy in question needs to learn how girls think.

[b]He who has not understood women has not understood anything. [/b]

Omrow

You see thats exactly where your wrong because every women is different, her needs are different, her feelings are different and so is her mind. Now your telling me women can be understood but until i do i havent understood anything. So your saying women are simple? they tought patterns are simmilar to a gold fish? (my words not yours) in a way thats what your saying right and yet im the one who hasnt understood anything?
well oh great omrow im ready to learn :roll: