Seems to contradict what I have read before. ie that when a husband and wife pray salaah together, they should read in congregation, the husband very slightly (as in his heels are just forward of her toes...) ahead as he would be leading it.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by MuslimBro on 6 November, 2007 - 02:24 #63
You're not wrong, a man is allowed to pray with his wife, so this may be an exception.
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It is valid for a husband and wife to pray in congregation. It is best for her to stand completely behind her husband, though it is valid, according to the relied upon opinion, as long as his heel is in front of hers. [Radd al-Muhtar]
Ok fair dooos that a women cannot pray side by side with men, thats understandable but then why are women around the world being denied the right to pray in mosques? The prophet stated that while it is not obligatory for women to pray in a mosques one should not stop them if they choose to.
Some mosques dont allow women to enter full stop while others give them a room on the other side of the mosque. During the time of prophet both men women and children prayed in a mosque WITHOUT barriers and walls. Whats changed now?
Is it not true to say that women had more rights to pray in a mosque during the time of the prohpet then they do now?
Surely women should not be denied their right to gain knowledge about Islam as they are they ones that spend more time with their newborns. If they are better educated about Islam they can guide their children better.
Before you all start laying into me im not havin a go at the guys just posing some questions. Feel free to discuss/agree/differ/hurdle abuse etc.
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No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Submitted by MuslimBro on 7 November, 2007 - 00:57 #65
Just to get the discussion going.
Correct me if I'm wrong. It's more rewardable for a woman if she prays at home rather than at the mosque.
So why do you want to pray at a mosque and get less reward?
That's not to say that women should be banned from mosques.
Work being one. If they work far from home, but close to a mosque...
Community spirit being another. Going to the mosque could mean you are more likely to pray... and learn other things about Islam through some education program.
The correct question is not "why?", but "why not?".
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
ur 100% spot on naz, some committee members disgust me with their absurd views. if i told u some of the stories u'd be like :shock:
put it this way, some go as far as saying woman only comer to the masjid so they can get the 'mullahs'. that’s how much they hate woman coming to the masjid, and many bring their personal family problems to the masjid which cause massive conflicts and make the rest of us suffer.
i dont tink muslim pregnant women will get off so easily now after that..
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ppl are under the mistaken believe that mosques are only a place where you can pray. Yeah you can pray but you can also learn/seek knowledge about Islam. If women don’t dress appropriately for mosque then i can understand why men wont allow then to enter and pray but what about those women who do dress modestly?
There was a really good documentary addressing this issue last year. If you haven’t seen it take a look. Quite shocking at the way these women are being treated by these so called “moulvis”.
Submitted by Funzo on 7 November, 2007 - 17:20 #71
my own personal view is that most of the masjids today are run by a joke of a commitee who really cant make decisions without arguing during namaz not jamat and bring there own sexist cultural views into the masjid i also dont feel unless its necessary for women to go to the masjid to pray if they are getting 70x rewards. i can understand them wanting to go to learn about islam but praying namaz unless is necessary e.g far away from home close 2 mosque someone has already said
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Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
chances are that if women cant enter mosques to pray then they cant attend religious talks given by scholars either. Women need female scholars within their community who they can turn to if they have concerns or problems, which they would not be confident talking to a male scholar about.
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No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Submitted by MuslimBro on 7 November, 2007 - 22:46 #73
I saw that video ages ago. I don't think "gatecrashing" after jummah prayer was such a good idea and then demanding a place to pray, there are better alternatives. Although with the attitude of some men in the video it looked impossible.
@ Naz - I've seen plenty of talks and events where women are allowed. Just because some mosques don't allow women in doesn't mean you cannot attend lectures outside the mosque.
they did approach them before the jummah gatecrash but they werent taken seriously. They only gatecrashed after jummah prayer coz all the men would be there an they were hopin they would get support from some of them but obviously not. Why should women have to attend lectures outside mosque? why not in? Mosques are for ALL muslims NOT just men!
Here you go:
[url=http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=10&ID=4779&CATE=216]Is it legally valid for men and women to pray in one line?[/url]
Thanks.
Seems to contradict what I have read before. ie that when a husband and wife pray salaah together, they should read in congregation, the husband very slightly (as in his heels are just forward of her toes...) ahead as he would be leading it.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
You're not wrong, a man is allowed to pray with his wife, so this may be an exception.
Ok fair dooos that a women cannot pray side by side with men, thats understandable but then why are women around the world being denied the right to pray in mosques? The prophet stated that while it is not obligatory for women to pray in a mosques one should not stop them if they choose to.
Some mosques dont allow women to enter full stop while others give them a room on the other side of the mosque. During the time of prophet both men women and children prayed in a mosque WITHOUT barriers and walls. Whats changed now?
Is it not true to say that women had more rights to pray in a mosque during the time of the prohpet then they do now?
Surely women should not be denied their right to gain knowledge about Islam as they are they ones that spend more time with their newborns. If they are better educated about Islam they can guide their children better.
Before you all start laying into me im not havin a go at the guys just posing some questions. Feel free to discuss/agree/differ/hurdle abuse etc.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Just to get the discussion going.
Correct me if I'm wrong. It's more rewardable for a woman if she prays at home rather than at the mosque.
So why do you want to pray at a mosque and get less reward?
That's not to say that women should be banned from mosques.
yah, she gets 70x more reward.
i like praying in jamat, so i go when i can. you get to see other sisters and when ur iman is low, it gives u this extra boost.
there could be many reasons.
Work being one. If they work far from home, but close to a mosque...
Community spirit being another. Going to the mosque could mean you are more likely to pray... and learn other things about Islam through some education program.
The correct question is not "why?", but "why not?".
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
ur 100% spot on naz, some committee members disgust me with their absurd views. if i told u some of the stories u'd be like :shock:
put it this way, some go as far as saying woman only comer to the masjid so they can get the 'mullahs'. that’s how much they hate woman coming to the masjid, and many bring their personal family problems to the masjid which cause massive conflicts and make the rest of us suffer.
i dont tink muslim pregnant women will get off so easily now after that..
Learn To Love The People Who Are Willing To Love You At Present. Forget The People In The Past & Thank Them For Hurting You, Which Lead You To Love The People You Have Right Now..
ppl are under the mistaken believe that mosques are only a place where you can pray. Yeah you can pray but you can also learn/seek knowledge about Islam. If women don’t dress appropriately for mosque then i can understand why men wont allow then to enter and pray but what about those women who do dress modestly?
There was a really good documentary addressing this issue last year. If you haven’t seen it take a look. Quite shocking at the way these women are being treated by these so called “moulvis”.
[url]http://mpacuk.org/content/view/2994/34/[/url]
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
my own personal view is that most of the masjids today are run by a joke of a commitee who really cant make decisions without arguing during namaz not jamat and bring there own sexist cultural views into the masjid i also dont feel unless its necessary for women to go to the masjid to pray if they are getting 70x rewards. i can understand them wanting to go to learn about islam but praying namaz unless is necessary e.g far away from home close 2 mosque someone has already said
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
chances are that if women cant enter mosques to pray then they cant attend religious talks given by scholars either. Women need female scholars within their community who they can turn to if they have concerns or problems, which they would not be confident talking to a male scholar about.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
I saw that video ages ago. I don't think "gatecrashing" after jummah prayer was such a good idea and then demanding a place to pray, there are better alternatives. Although with the attitude of some men in the video it looked impossible.
@ Naz - I've seen plenty of talks and events where women are allowed. Just because some mosques don't allow women in doesn't mean you cannot attend lectures outside the mosque.
they did approach them before the jummah gatecrash but they werent taken seriously. They only gatecrashed after jummah prayer coz all the men would be there an they were hopin they would get support from some of them but obviously not. Why should women have to attend lectures outside mosque? why not in? Mosques are for ALL muslims NOT just men!
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
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