Can a western Muslim criticise the West at the same liberty as a nonmuslim westerner?

Published by Dave on 17 August, 2005 - 02:50
Yes
31% (5 votes)
Yes
31% (5 votes)
No
19% (3 votes)
No
19% (3 votes)
Total votes: 16
Submitted by Dave on 17 August, 2005 - 02:50

Is it possible for muslims to criticise the West without the stigma of sympathizing with terrorists?

I noticed after the London bombing there were many muslims who made a point that they probably wouldn't have happened if Britain wasn't involved in Iraq, which of course is making a larger point about western policy in primarily muslim countries.

Wasn't recieved well by the public.

The same point by non-muslims was recieved much differently.

Is this the case in general, if so why is it so?

Submitted by You on 17 August, 2005 - 02:54

No. Even if the people do not but the link of sympathy, we will always have to fight it.

Some one will always accuse us of it.

On another forum, when that brazilian was shot, I dared to say it was wrong, and was accused of sympathising. And that guy was not even muslim.

I was not criticising a policy, but just an action, and it was brought up.

Its a fact of life, and we gotta live with it.

Just like if you criticise muslims, you will have to deal with being called Islamophobic.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by salaf on 17 August, 2005 - 03:23

You could similarly say that why are muslim youth only targeted for integration.

The young in all communities in this country are behaving badly.

If white non-muslim kids go around beating up girls and filming it on their mobile phones nobody says they aren't integrated.

But if muslim women cover themselves up this is supposedly a sign of non-integration.

Likewise if a white non-muslim man chooses to have "backward" views about women nobody says he isn't integrated. But if the same views exist among muslims then its a national crisis.

Submitted by judda on 17 August, 2005 - 09:25

I say stuff about America all the time maaan…

On the old forum I used to cuss America all the time, the stupid mods used to delete my posts b4 u got a chance 2 read dem dave

I used 2 h8 admin bb he was such a hypocrite… he edited my posts and he said to dave dat he has got blood on his hands coz he is an American and the war in Iraq was unjustifiable… 2 b honest dat sounds like me so why da hell was he editing mi posts…

Dave on the poll I accidentally pressed ‘no’ I mean ‘yes’….

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What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

Submitted by MuslimSisLilSis on 17 August, 2005 - 10:04

if non Muslims can get away with critiszing the West

why cant Muslims?

Muslims arent the only ones who linked the Iraq war with the bombings

Submitted by You on 17 August, 2005 - 11:40

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
if non Muslims can get away with critiszing the West

why cant Muslims?

Muslims arent the only ones who linked the Iraq war with the bombings

erm... that is exactly what Dave asked.

We should be able to (after we are also 'the west'), but we always have to answer many snide questions before we can.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Dave on 18 August, 2005 - 02:56

"Admin" wrote:
No. Even if the people do not but the link of sympathy, we will always have to fight it.

Some one will always accuse us of it.

On another forum, when that brazilian was shot, I dared to say it was wrong, and was accused of sympathising. And that guy was not even muslim.

I was not criticising a policy, but just an action, and it was brought up.

Its a fact of life, and we gotta live with it.

Just like if you criticise muslims, you will have to deal with being called Islamophobic.

What the hell is islamophobia anyway? I always kinda took it to be when there are acts of violence/vandalism against muslims.

Submitted by Sajid Iqbal on 18 August, 2005 - 12:12

"Dave" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:
No. Even if the people do not but the link of sympathy, we will always have to fight it.

Some one will always accuse us of it.

On another forum, when that brazilian was shot, I dared to say it was wrong, and was accused of sympathising. And that guy was not even muslim.

I was not criticising a policy, but just an action, and it was brought up.

Its a fact of life, and we gotta live with it.

Just like if you criticise muslims, you will have to deal with being called Islamophobic.

What the hell is islamophobia anyway? I always kinda took it to be when there are acts of violence/vandalism against muslims.

[b]Islamophobia is a neologism used to refer to an irrational fear or prejudice towards Muslims and the religion of Islam.[/b]

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