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Welcome to Revival Nasha.

"Omrow" wrote:
Welcome to Revival Nasha.

Actually its Nisha... not Nasha... she aint no bag of weed.

Back in BLACK

[color=cyan]plz omrow can u not call me nasha cause i told u i dont like it [/color]

the only the only nisha not Nasha

Ofcourse you do.

Has someone been filling your head?

[color=red]no wat makes u say that ??
i jus dont want u to call me nasha because i jus dont like it if u dont mind why would i lisan to anyone i make my own mind up [/color]

the only the only nisha not Nasha

"Dawud" wrote:
"Jaybunny" wrote:
hola

i do not know very much about muslims and islam but i have been reading this webforum for a very long time and i think you all are great! is rain here?

Dios te bendiga!

Hello and welcome to the revival forum. In England it rains a lot. In the forum? Its usually quite sunny with a few cloudy moments. Storms come, stroms go. When it gets stromy, be careful do not mistake the lightning for the sun, it will not illuminate so much as blind you.

Enjoy your stay. By the way are you in Spain or Spanish or neither?

lol gracias...

i am not in spain but i am hispanic i am sorry to bother you i just wanted to find somethings out may i please ask questions sometimes?

gracias
Dios te bendiga

“Singing is like praying twice.”

Dominus vobiscum to Catholics
may God guide you non Catholics

Salam

Hi bunny.

You are most welcome to ask any question.

However, please keep them in English.

By the way, very interesting name.

Omrow

assalaam alaikum

I'm Abdul 16......... year's old. revert from London. Smile

My name is Admin.

Been here a long time. This place used to be my life til a few short weeks ago.

just thought I will check my email for The Revival.

over 800 unread messages were picked up by the spam filter.

I think I'll just leave them there.

oh, and welcome to all newcomers and oldcomers.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Abdul_Halim" wrote:
assalaam alaikum

I'm Abdul 16......... year's old. revert from London. Smile

welcome

Subhanallah 16 years old and Allah swt guided ur heart to teh right path .

A rose protects its beauty with thorns..a woman protects hers with a veil

Thank you bliss i'm almost 17 Smile

I've always had close muslim friends-they guided me and treated me like a brother-

I've almost learnt how to pray, but my pronunciation is very weak somthing i'm working on, I haven't started on the Quran

[color=magenta]MashaAllah thats really good brother, main thing is you came back on the right track when other guys your age would get into a lot of bad and haram things you didnt.

Welcome to the forum, i make dua that Allah SWT continues guiding you to the straight path.

P.S Say As'salamu alaykum to shazan bhai for me[/color]

[b][color=DeepPink]O you who believe, If you help (in the cause of) Allah, He will help you, and make your foothold firm[/color][color=DeepSkyBlue] {Surah Muhammad7}[/color][/b]

Salam

Welcome Halim. Nice name.

I hope you enjoy everything here.

Make yourself at home.

Omrow

Asalamoalaikum!

I have recently joined Revival after having been introduced to it by Saffy 786...MashAllah its really good what you all r doing, I am looking forward to being a part of it Insha'Allah...JazakAllah

Sister nayab

Nayab

"Nayab" wrote:
Asalamoalaikum!

I have recently joined Revival after having been introduced to it by Saffy 786...MashAllah its really good what you all r doing, I am looking forward to being a part of it Insha'Allah...JazakAllah

Sister nayab

Salaam Nayab...

Welcome to the forum! Hope u enjoy our forum and we look forward to reading ur posts! Inshallah!

Allah Hafiz!!!

Smile

"Happy are those who find fault with themselves instead of finding fault with others"

"Abdul_Halim" wrote:
assalaam alaikum

I'm Abdul 16......... year's old. revert from London. Smile

Wa alaykum as Salaam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu

welcome to the revival foums. Very nice name, may Allah bless you with tonnes of Hilm.

A point about the revival: [b]do not take religious rulings from what is discussed in this or any other Islamic forum. After you've been in Islam for about a year you'll understand but until that time, when people scream:

"HALAAL/HARAAM/BID'AH!/SHIRK/AHL-UL-[insert insulting condemnation here]/I-LOST-20-STONES-WITH-THE-ATKINS-DIET!!1111!!"

Don't believe a word of it. I'm not saying that peole will always be wrong or right on the forums, but as a rule ask a scholar if you have issues or questions or querries. Friends are great at guiding you in what to do, and thats whats you might find on the forum, but until you've been a Muslim for atleast a year or so don't regard it as infalible religious law, take it instead as sincere advice.[/b]

I cannot emphasise this enough.

Now thats done, my advice to you is, learn how to perform the ritual purifications (wudu, ghusl, istinja), learn how to pray the ritual prayer, obtain an english translation of the Quran (I recomend Pickthall, or Yusuf Ali but thats just 'advice' Wink ) obtain a book about the seerah (life) of The Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam (I recomend Martin Lings or M.Pirzada but again thats advice).

Don't worry about reading arabic just yet, unless you have the time on your hands and want to go for it.

Welcome to Islam, live long and prosper. Welcome everyone else too.

Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.

Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes

Salaam KhassanBaiev, can we have intro please.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Omrow" wrote:
Salam

Hi bunny.

You are most welcome to ask any question.

However, please keep them in English.

By the way, very interesting name.

Omrow

muchas gracias,

i will ask in english... gracias,

Dios te bendiga

“Singing is like praying twice.”

Dominus vobiscum to Catholics
may God guide you non Catholics

"Admin" wrote:
Salaam KhassanBaiev, can we have intro please.

KhassanBaiev AKA Shazan :?

hola,

i have a question, hopefully it is appropriate and i am not offending anyone (ojala). so if i may ask why do some muslims believe that the moorish invasion of spain was a noble thing, that muslims are supposed to do and other muslims say it is a bad thing that muslims may not do...

my larger question which i am asking is about violence and islam, one muslim has told me there is no place for aggression in islam. but then a muslim i asked elsewhere said that it is okay and said spain was an example the violence that is part of islam...

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To answer your question [removed], whenever islaam is about to enter any land - the leaders give the rulers of that nation 3 options:

1) Become muslim.

2) Pay Jizya and you will be under the protection of the muslims.

3) If you don't want to accept the above, then fight.

That might seem violent, but lets look at it this way - all the nations of the world would force the people to follow the religion of their ruler.

Therefore if the ruler was christian, the people were forced to follow that religion [like we can see in the story already.] Anyone who was in Iraq/Iran would have to follow Zoroastrianism. Anyone who was in India would have to follow hinduism etc. This happened for many centuries in the world, it was also at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him), and continued for many centuries even after that.

There was a man in Al-Shaam [Greater Syria] who became muslim within the lifetime of the Prophet (peace be upon him), but because he lived in Greater Syria, where the Byzantinian Romans had power, they had him executed because he wasn't following the religion of the ruler (Heraclius.)

When islaam came, it abolished this ideology and because the people were living under oppression anyway, by these rulers who were taking advantage of the people - the people had one of the 3 choices mentioned above.

They could either accept islaam and become brothers and sisters in faith, the muslims would allow them to keep their land and wealth etc.

They could pay jizya [a small tax] which would be used to protect the state and help the needy etc. (the same way the muslims pay zakaah tax aswell.) Which in return would allow the people to keep their land, wealth, their honor and blood would be protected, and if anyone waged war against them - the muslims would fight on their behalf.

Or if the rulers never accepted any of these options, they would fight to lift the other people off oppression. The innocent people who might have wanted to follow another religion, but were too scared to because they were under the threat of being killed by their non muslim ruler. When these evil rulers were killed, the muslims would have authority in the land and allow the people to follow their faith freely, even have their own courts [with the laws according to their scripture.] All for a small tax, which they would be protected under anyway. And this wasn't injustice because muslims payed the (zakaah) tax anyway.

We follow the Qur'an and Sunnah [Prophetic way] according to the understanding of the companions of the Messenger of Allaah, we don't follow the way of the Ummayad Dynasty, because yes they aren't perfect and can do injustice, we don't agree that all that they did was right. But nowhere does it say in islaam that we follow the way of these people, rather we follow the way of the companions of the Prophet (peace be upon him) who would give the 3 options, if they never accepted within 3 days, they would be fought for the freedom of the innocent people.

Islaam is just, and Allaah loves those who are just. The Ummayads may have treated the people there unjustly, but don't you see now why Allaah removed this from their grasp? It's because they turned away from this justice. When Jesus (peace be upon him) returns back to the earth to slay the anti-christ, he will bring justice back to the lands, and this is why Allaah will allow the blessings of the earth to come out.

Just to add in, islaam didn't simply spread by the sword. If you look in the world right now, the countries with the biggest muslim population are Indonesia, Malaysia etc., yet no muslims went to fight there.

And Allaah Almighty knows best.

que Dios te bendiga

“Singing is like praying twice.”

Dominus vobiscum to Catholics
may God guide you non Catholics

gracias ßeast,

i feel very foolish... :oops:

Dios te bendiga

“Singing is like praying twice.”

Dominus vobiscum to Catholics
may God guide you non Catholics

"Jaybunny" wrote:
"KhassanBaiev" wrote:
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hola Dr. Baiev,

i hope you do not feel this is intrusive but i searched your name in google and read about your story, i am also in the medical field (ojala) i will be a doctor in time.

i think what you have done is truly beautiful and compassionate. you are a wonderful doctor, and i hope God blesses you for the work you have done.

Dios te bendiga

He is not [i]the[/i] Khassan Baiev. He is Shazan Miah.

KhassanBaiev is just a username.

hola,

i do not mean to sound pushy but may i ask if it is possible that somebody could address my earlier question? muchos gracias...

Dios te bendiga

“Singing is like praying twice.”

Dominus vobiscum to Catholics
may God guide you non Catholics

Shazan is a member that was. in other words he got banned a while back. he signed up with a new name, and has gone again.

re the earlier questions, I have created a new topic:

[url=http://www.therevival.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2894]Click here[/url]

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Salam

I am a non-muslim but can assure you i hope to contribute to discussions in a positive way. Came across the site by accident - had a quick look at the forum and have been on for ages. A lot of sense in the posts i have seen so far....

[color=indigo][b]Welcome! Biggrin [/b][/color]

welcome to the revival,
i hope you enjoy your stay. Smile

A rose protects its beauty with thorns..a woman protects hers with a veil

"gerrad" wrote:
Salam

I am a non-muslim but can assure you i hope to contribute to discussions in a positive way. Came across the site by accident - had a quick look at the forum and have been on for ages. A lot of sense in the posts i have seen so far....

Hi!

What are we calling "Ages," a week, a month, a year... several years?

I've always been curious about people who join after checking out the forum for ages...

"Admin" wrote:
Shazan is a member that was. in other words he got banned a while back. he signed up with a new name, and has gone again.

re the earlier questions, I have created a new topic:

[url=http://www.therevival.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2894]Click here[/url]

lol, general rule Jaybunny:

if it's chechnyan, it's probably shazan

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