“Whoever initiates a good practice…”

Published by You on 25 February, 2010 - 02:04

the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

“Whoever initiates a good practice (sunnah hasanah) in Islam and is emulated by others in doing so will get the reward of it and the reward of all those who act upon it without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And whosoever initiates an evil practice (sunnah sayyi’ah) in Islam and is emulated by others will bear the sin of it and the sin of all those who act on it without their burden being diminished in the least. ”

[Sahîh Muslim: (1017)]

Discuss.

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Submitted by You on 3 January, 2011 - 22:53

I cant seem to find the above reference, but here is another one for the same ahadith, which is longer:

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Jarir b. Abdullah reported that some desert Arabs clad in woollen clothes came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). He saw them in sad plight as they had been hard pressed by need. He (the Holy Prophet) exhorted people to give charity, but they showed some reluctance until (signs) of anger could be seen on his face. Then a person from the Ansar came with a purse containing silver. Then came another person and then other persons followed them in succession until signs of happiness could be seen on his (sacred) face. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He who introduced some good practice in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who introduced some evil practice in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without their's being diminished in any respect.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by LookingToSee on 4 January, 2011 - 00:40

heard something like that, but it was about awakening a forgotten sunnah.

now...to find what the scholars say about this!

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Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Submitted by LookingToSee on 16 January, 2011 - 07:42

hadith in context

There is a story behind this hadeeth, which will explain what "whoever starts a good thing" means. Imaam Muslim reported this story from Jareer ibn 'Abdullaah, who also narrated the hadeeth itself. He said: "Some people from the Bedouin came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), wearing woollen garments. He saw that they were in bad shape and in desperate need, so he urged the people to give them charity. They people were very slow to respond, and it could be seen in his face (that he was upset). Then a man of the Ansaar brought a package of silver, then another came, and another and another, and his face was filled with joy. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: 'Whoever starts a good thing in Islam, and others do likewise after him, there will be written for him a reward like that of those who followed him, without it detracting in the least from their reward. Whoever starts a bad thing in Islam, and others do likewise after him, there will be written for him a burden of sin like that of those who followed him, without it detracting in the least from their burden.'" (Reported by Muslim, no. 1017)

and also

...the hadeeth narrated by Abu Hurayrah, may Allaah be pleased with him, who said: "A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he urged the people to give him charity. A man said: 'I have such-and-such,' and there was no person left in the gathering who did not give something in charity to him, whether it was a large amount or a little. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: 'Whoever starts something good, and others follow his lead, will have a complete reward and a reward like that of those who followed him, without it detracting in the least from their reward. Whoever starts something bad, and others follow his lead, will bear a complete burden of sin, and a burden like that of those who followed him, without it detracting in the least from their burden. (Reported by Ibn Maaajah in al-Sunan, no. 204)

now let's discuss some more.

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Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Submitted by TPOS on 16 January, 2011 - 14:04

Lilly wrote:

now let's discuss some more.


Theres nothing really to discuss. :/
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by LookingToSee on 16 January, 2011 - 18:02

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
Lilly wrote:

now let's discuss some more.


Theres nothing really to discuss. :/

killjoy. we're discussing bid'ah hassanah. which i dont believe in. doesnt mean im agaisnt You. just that (i think) we have a different definition of the word "bid'ah"

finding the definition of the scholars might put an end to this discussion.

another way this discussion could go would be for Admin to post up some stuff about "bid'ah hassanah" and back up his points.

there's lots to tlak about!

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Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Submitted by TPOS on 16 January, 2011 - 19:28

The person who labels something wrong/unliked/haram has to provide the evidence...:P
Why don't you believe in it?

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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2011 - 19:47

There are different ways people use to define what new thing is allowed or not.

and its definitionS - if there was only one, there would be no dispute.

the one that I like is of introducing a new thing to religion that is COUNTER to the qur'an and hadith.

An example would be deciding that Isha should be read at midday...

An opposing example would be taraveeh by jama'ah as stated in the reign of Caliph Hadhrat Umar (ra).

But then there is the question of understanding there too - like how giving zakah money to the people who are wanting to convert to Islam was allowed but it wa stopped/prohibitted by Hadhrat Umar (ra).

After that you can add the import duties levied on traders entering the muslim lands.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by TPOS on 16 January, 2011 - 22:02

You wrote:

But then there is the question of understanding there too - like how giving zakah money to the people who are wanting to convert to Islam was allowed but it wa stopped/prohibitted by Hadhrat Umar (ra).


why?
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by You on 4 March, 2011 - 18:13

It was allowed before but then Hadhrat Umar (ra) said that that was a time when the Muslim community was weak, so people who wanted to convert to Islam may have needed some encouragement as converting could haver massive consequences depending on how others reactions. Hadhrat Umar (ra) thought that Islam and the Muslim community had become strong and the reasons for such payments no longer existed.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by LookingToSee on 5 March, 2011 - 08:02

anyone's got any idea, about the "introducing a bad practise" would, let's say, telling someone about a music vid, and they go home and watch it (coz you recommended it). dyou get the sin? (let's say the music vid contains lots of haraam things, with horrible lyrics, swearwords etc..)

any ideas?

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Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Submitted by You on 5 March, 2011 - 13:03

I think that is what I have been told (but I think there would be an encouragement/enablement factor to it all too - Islamically it is "easier" to accumulate virtues than sins, eg you get reward for intending to do a good deed even if you dont manage to carry it off, but no sins for intending to do a bad deed unless you follow through).

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Raihan (not verified) on 11 April, 2019 - 20:23

What you r saying was explained by current "supreme Mufti" of Arabia , bin Baaz and I believe you are telling this on the basis of his interpretation only which is on his official site as well...I just want to know from you as you put it that it's about reviving a forgotten Sunnah then, are Sunnah "Evil" (MaazAllah) also ..?? I think you may have just ignored the second part of Hadith otherwise you would have never accepted that interpretation.  The Hadith is clearly about instituting "Good Sunnah" and "Evil Sunnah". It's really laughable when bin Baaz gave this explanation of this Hadith e paaq & they pose themselves as if no one understands Arabic correctly expect them.

The Hadith is clearly about instituting a practice not just an action as being suggested below..and it busts the Nejdi/Wahhabi belief/aqeedah that all innovations/Practices even if they are good are Misguidance and lead to Hell & in saying so they openly reject this authentic hadith mentioned in Tirmizi as well..!!! 

Good Practice example : 1) Offering Taraweeh prayers behind one Imam as it is Bidah e Hasanah as well

2) Putting Diacritics in Quran

3) Putting Haraqat, tanween (zabar, zer, pesh, twin zabar, ) in Quranic Arabic for non Arabic to be able to read & understand it correctly 

4) Introducing Azaan before the Azaan of Khutba on Jumah by Hazrat Usmaan RadiAllahu Ta'ala Anhu

5) Arranging religious gatherings for celebrating Eid Meelad un Nabi SAWs, carrying processions on this occassion (if done within the spheres of Sharia), feeding and sending the Sawaab of this meal to Holy Prophet SAWs and His Family Members, Sahab e Kiraam and Auliya Allah or feeding on the behalf on the Holy Prophet SAWs.

5) Arranging Quraan Khawani where in one meeting whole Quraan is recited by participants and then isaal e sawaab is done which didn't use to be done at the time of Holy Prophet SAWs, Ahle Bait Alaihissalaam, Sahaba e Kiraam Ridwaanallahi Ta'ala Alaihi Ajmaeen and Tabe'een.

All these hasan practices and many other clearly fall under the sphere of this blessed Hadith.

 

 

 

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