The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has been described as being light from the light of Allaah. If what is meant by this is that he himself is from the light of Allaah, then this goes against the Qur’aan, which refers to his being human. If what is meant is that he is light in the sense that he brought the Revelation by which whoever Allah wills of His creation is guided, then this is correct. The committee has issued a fatwa concerning this matter, as follows:
“The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has light which is the light of the message and guidance from Allaah, through which Allaah guides whomsoever He will of His slaves. No doubt the light of the message and of guidance comes from Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
‘It is not given to any human being that Allaah should speak to him unless (it be)by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or (that) He sends a Messenger to reveal what He wills by His Leave. Verily, He is Most High, Most Wise.
And thus We have sent to you (O Muhammad) Roohan (an Inspiration, and a Mercy) of Our Command. You knew not what is the Book, nor what is Faith? But We have made it (this Qur’aan) a light wherewith We guide whosoever of Our slaves We will. And verily, you (O Muhammad) are indeed guiding (mankind) to the Straight Path (i.e., Allaah’s religion of Islamic monotheism), --
The path of Allaah, to Whom belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. Verily, all the matters at the end go to Allaah (for decision).”[al-Shura 42:51-53]
This light is not derived from the Seal of the Awliya’ as some heretics claim. The body of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was blood and flesh and bone, and so on. He was created from a father and a mother, and had no existence before he was born. The reports which say that the first thing created by Allaah was the light of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or that Allaah grasped a handful of the light from His Face and that this handful was Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then He looked at it and it formed drops, and from each of these drops He created a Prophet, or He created all of creation from the light of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – all of these reports and the like are not saheeh, and nothing like this has been narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).”
From the fatwa quoted above, it is clear that this is a false belief.
As for the report which says “I am ‘Arab without (the letter) ‘ayn, i.e., Rabb, and I am Ahmad without (the letter) meem, i.e., Ahad” – the attributes of Lordship (ruboobiyah, from Rabb meaning Lord) and Absolute Unity (Ahad meaning One) are attributes that belong uniquely to Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted. It is not permissible for any one of His creation to be described as “the Lord (Rabb)” or as being One (Ahad) in absolute terms. These are attributes that belong exclusively to Allaah, and are not used to describe the Messengers or any other human beings. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.
Al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Ifta’ (Standing Committee for Academic Research and the Issuing of Fatwas).
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/310.
Question:
Is it said that Allaah created the heavens and earth for the purpose of creating the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? What is the meaning of the words, “Were it not for you, the universe [lit. heavenly bodies] would not have been created”? Is there any basis for this hadeeth? Is it saheeh or not? Please give us the facts.
Answer:
The heavens and earth were not created for the sake of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). They were created for the reason mentioned by Allaah in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):
“It is Allaah Who has created seven heavens and of the earth the like thereof (i.e., seven). His Command descends between them (heavens and earth), that you may know that Allaah has power over all things, and that Allaah surrounds (comprehends) all things in (His) Knowledge.”[al-Talaaq 65:12]
As for the hadeeth mentioned, it is falsely attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and has no grounds for authenticity. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. In other words it is a false and fabricated hadith.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/312.
cba reading all of that, and since you probably never wrote it in the first place, i think that is fair.
1. Please keep things in one topic. the other topic you created about this, but with different content should have been a reply to this topic - it has been deleted. feel free to re post as a reply here and NOT as a new topic.
2. If you even did GCSE science, you would have come across this concept of Wave particle duality and even the theory of relativity which would make this whole discussion null and void.
3. Another answer:
If you drive a Ferrari into a village where people have only ever seen one car, lets say, a ford Cortina and people ask "is that a car?" the answer would be "yes".
If you on the other hand drive a Ford Cortina to a Ferrari owners club and say "they are both cars, they both are the same", expect to get laughed at.
So while to the non Muslims, the Prophet
did remind them of his humanity and said "I am a man like you", to the Sahabah, such as Hadhrat Abu Bakr as Sideeq (ra), who tried to emulate the multi-day fasting the the Prophet 
did, the prophet 
told him that he was NOT like him.
Here we have the Prophet saying to non muslims, that he
is like them, yet to close companions, the best of Muslims, he 
says that he is different from them. I hope you can appreciate the nuanced difference here and are not of the opinion that the kufaar that were addressed were better than the close companions of the Prophet (saw).
(I expect to be called ignorant or a fool or an idiot in reply - with the poster thinking that is a perfectly valid arguing technique... which it is for a 12 year old.)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I have never come across any ideas to suggest that Prophet Muhammed
was not human.
I didn't even realize that this was an issue.
It's not = he
IS human. However, is he human like us? Well, for one, he 
recieved revalation which we have not, so there are atleast some specialities.
The qur'an mentions how the book and the light have been left behind for the ummah - and people debate whether the light is a metaphor, or a physical thing.
(I think there are also ahadith/observations of the sahabah that the Prophet
never had a shadow, but I have not really analysed them at all... since... well... its not something I really cared about.)
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the prophet was human tho .... like he was different to us in the way that he was a prophet chosen by Allah and therefore we didnt compare at all to his status ... yet for people saying that he was actually made from noor .... this has been taken too literally by people
As long as we know that He
was human, then that is more important instead of discussing whether he was or not.
Although he did receive the revelations..well someone had to in order for Islam to be how it is. Plus, we can use him
as a role model 
yes, and this is generally a pointless debate - does not impact on a persons faith, but people love to have it.
The Prophet
was whatever God decided to make him 
be, and we cannot change that, nor can we limit God's power on what God is able to do and bestow.
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i agree that its not important for us to debate on this as more important things are to better ourself as muslims and to follow sunna etc ... yet then there will be people who try to force the view that the Prophet PBUH was not a human and was something else .... which is just people bringing innovations into the religion ... i even heard someone say that every time darrud sharif is recited the prophets soul enter back into his body ...... i was like never heard of that before .... i'v nearly been on verge of being physically harmed due to me saying PBUH was human ... some ppl lol
If you notice this topic... it is the exact opposite... and the argument tht the Prophet
was not special is flawed and wrong.
How was he special, that is less important as I think everyone agrees that he
was special, but in different ways with differing perceptions and explanations.
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Who are the committee?
This is from the original first post made by Awlia.
yh agree that the Prophet was special and no one in their right mind would deny that that but then you have to see that prophet was a human in physical means just like we are human ... and the common argument is that he was something more .... then is that not an innovation like the christians have brought into their religion that Isa was the son of God
Ferrari Vs lada. Try joining the Ferrari owners club when only owning the latter.
By "special", you are accepting he was something more, just you disagree with him being made out of light. which is ok.
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yep thats exactly what am saying
What?
No..I don't see how that is an innovation.
What do you mean by something more?
Just because someone was more special than the rest of the Human population doesn't make that person the Son of God. There are loads of people who have done something extraodinary in the world today. Obviously these people are not anywhere in comparison to the Prophet (saw). Well, that's how I see it. The Prophet
was CLEARLY helped/willed by Allah (swt) to do whatever he did. So..is that an innovation?
I don't think I made what I was thinking any clearer here.
I used an axample somewhere that if you showed a ferrari (replace - expensive car) to some people who had only seen one other car before, you would accept it when they called it a car.
But in a specialist environment, where there were other efficianado's of the same subject, you would frown upon such "crude" statements.
I am sure there can be more relevant examples made that are not car analogies, but then I am not an expert in the required subjects.
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more as in a common view is that he was made of noor literally and is that not an innovation to islam bringing in such a claim about the Prophet PBUH ... hmm maybe innovation in this context was not right word to use i can see what you mean perhaps a unproved claim would have been better
yeah, innovation is an accusation thrown around way too easily. Same with takfir and shirk. They should be used carefully as they have weighty meanings.
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yep was on the train having a debate about wahabi and berelvis and the term shirk was bein thrown into every other sentence but yh it is better to step back and think that is it really shirk or are we being too extreme to say that about people.
can you present one ayah or one hadith that states that the prophet
wasn't noor.
point is still the same do you take it as a metaphor or literally.
show me one hadith or quran which say muhammad SAW is noor, and by the way real hadith, not fabricated hadith,
as imam abu zara said:
Imam Abu Zara' Al-Dimashqi:
When asked about the books of Al-Harith Al-Muhasbi: "Beware of those books. those are books of innovation and misguidance.Stick to what has been related from the prophet-saaws-(Al-Athar), you will find in it what would spare you those books. It was told to him:There is a lesson(Ibra) in those books. He said: Whoever doesn't find a lesson from the book of Allah, would not find a lesson in those books. It has reached you that Malik bin Anas, Sufyan AL-Thawri, Al-Awzai and the precedent Imamas classified those books amongst the anxieties, insinuations and those(similar) things. Those(meaning the Sufis) people contradicted the people of knowledge ( Ahl Al-Elm), they come to us once by Al-Harith Al-Muhasbi, another by Abdul-Raheem Al-Dubeeli, another by Hatim Al-Asam, another by Shaqiq Al-Bulakhi, then he said: how fast are people (going ) to innovations(Al-Bida')."
ferrari is a car, and what is ferrari created from? is it created with something different? the car maybe better then others BUT is it created with anything different? NO it is created from the same scrap of metal only designed differently, no different to how muhammad SAW is created from clay no different to others only he was better then us by acts, his acts were better then any creation of allah, he was the chosen one, but if allah was to choose to make muhammad SAW out of grass and say his the chosen one and best then he would be the best, he doesnt have to be created from something extra special to be the best, he is the best due to his acts, his acts are unmatched to any creation, so he muhammad SAW he was created from clay no different to any other human, but was better because of his acts, not from what he was created, as if you judge it by what they were created from then you are no different to iblees.
so your ferrari example is pathetic and makes no sense, as ferrari has been created fromt the same metal and only with a better design, people will laugh because it looks better but its still made from the same thing isnt it.
And as for muhammad SAW not having shadow, it is another fabricated ahdith which was made by the enemies/jews, and you actually believe those fabricated hadiths, how lower can you go from their, as when yo believe in fabricated hadith then by allah you are lost and only he can guide you back.
He muhammad SAW is the one of thesons of aadam AS, who was a human made from clay and his son muhammad SAW is his son came thing made from the same thing clay, and hemuhammad SAW is the best of creation because of his acts, and allah judges by acts not what he created us from, anyone who judges by what we have been created from is no different to iblees.
And your 2nd point is another nonsense, and agian your refute was a notehr failure.
As for the abu bakr RA example i dont see the point of that, as he abu bakr when muhammadSAW died said "Muhammad SAW is just a man" meaning he muhammad SAW was a human being, in that sense.
brother please please get out of this forum, and go to a different forums like islamic awakening which is much better and has correct info on things, and will benefit you.
Ya Ali Madaad.
Prophet (pbuh) in one famous hadith found in sunni books said:
"Me and Ali were created from one Light."
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
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Common terms between Sunni and Shia!
Yes. I would assume alarge part of modern sports cars is made out of carbon fibre. Then there is BMW which uses Aluminium. Then there are the normal car companies that use steel.
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the qur'an should do then?
[qs:5:15]
read it and weep. oh, take it as metaphorical if you want to, but that would mean:
1. You accept the use of metaphors (and this is fatal to some of your other arguments ongoing).
2. you will know where the claim of nur comes from.
3. I mentioned wave/particle duality before which mean EVEN YOU can be transformed into a light form. This science has been proven long ago and is used in nuclear weaponry and power stations.
As mentioned before, this is not an article and faith you do not have to accept it. Just make sure the reason for acceptance is not arrogance
A question - do you have greater zeal for being proven right, or for being right? Your arguments - apart from when they are claiming muslims are mushrik - are not real big issues. Leave the subcontinent and go to other muslim countries. People will laugh at how the people are being divided over such small matters. That is what happened when a person from here went to syria and tried to explain why the people were divided...
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fabricated hadith, maybe you should start looking at the authency of the hadith, that ahdith is fabricated, go back and check its source, this hadith was fabricated by a jew pretending to be a muslim.
i can present you the evidence that muhammad SAW is not light, but obviously you cant do the same, such as allah says to muhammad SAW you say "i am a human being" muhammad SAW also states in many hadith that he is just a human being, he was the son of abdullah, and of aadam AS, who was a human being so his children will obviously be the same as him.
Now tell me something can a angel be created from clay, and can a shaytan be created from clay?
Are you saying that God cannot create angels or jinn out of clay if he so chooses? Na'udhullah.
And that is where the heart of the matter is.
Yes, the Prophet
was human, but why are you so adamant in suggesting that God - the creator of all the worlds, the most powerful, the unequalled cannot create the Prophet 
from light.
I gave you quranic evidence, using the word "nur", which you seem to have conveniently ignored. Along with the hadith where the Prophet
said he was not like Hadhrat Abu Bakr (ra).
This is not an important matter (as its not part of the kalimah), unless you make it important, or try to limit the abilities of God.
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