Salam

Naz wrote:

Why exactly are you apologising? If you think i found your post offensive honestly i didnt others might have but i didnt. If i did i would have said. So there is really no need to apologise, you were just stating your opinion and thats what you do on a forum.

ps please can you not call me sister. It really bugs me when ppl do it.

I did it only after Amal pointed it out to me that my words
would certainly be offensive to a woman.

But now that you have clarified, I thank you for relieving me of this unnecessary stress.

I was concerned that I had hurt your soul.

As for calling you "sister", I do that on a very rare occasion; especially when
trying to make it up with a girl whom I believe I have harmed in any way.

Now,

Since you say I didnt hurt your feelings, I can now get back to normal and call you a dizzy cow.

Omrow

Naz wrote:

Omrow wrote:

Salam

Ok Amal. Thanks for pointing it out to me. You are right.

Naz:

I apologise to you for making that remark.

I was out of order.

I am sorry. Forgive me sister.

I should not have said what I had said.

It was clearly wrong.

Omrow

Let me get this straight, the Great Omorw is apologising to me :? Sorry im just really shocked and taken back by it.

Why exactly are you apologising? If you think i found your post offensive honestly i didnt others might have but i didnt. If i did i would have said. So there is really no need to apologise, you were just stating your opinion and thats what you do on a forum.

ps please can you not call me sister. It really bugs me when ppl do it.

Naz, are you un-insultable?

Holding an opinion (and freedom of speech) is all well and good, but NOT when it has the potential to cause harm. I am not a fan of an apathetic, hardened approach to things. Certain standards of behaviour towards women is looked down upon as outdated in today's society, but they need to be upheld, otherwise whats the difference? :roll: I really think that we need to uphold standards for ourselves.

I know how to crack a joke (or Id like to think so!) but certain jokes have their limits. I expect muslim girls to be treated with beautiful honour, respect, dignity and high level of adab, and be spoken to or joked with in a manner that befits them. Joking or otherwise, I do not expect muslim girls to be spoken to in a less worthy joking manner, or be jeered at, nor humiliated or insulted, especially by my brothers in islam. I know that Omrow did not go as far as that, (and I do not believe he would either), but I am making a point through an exaggerated polarisation of the two possible sides. I know its a bit of a romantisised view, but I expect only good from my brothers in Islam. Anything less would be less deserving of them, and less deserving for muslim girls.

Im really trying not to come across as a moany old woman lol (I know it seems like thats all i do :shock: ) and I am not going out of my way to belittle men (honest!), but if we give a person an inch, they will take a mile. Muhammad said that he came, except to perfect good character and/or refine manners.

I had the most horrific, frightening and unmentionable verbal harassment and abuse hurled at me recently. I did not and do not expect to be treated in that manner by anyone :evil: , so did not have any qualms about reporting him to the police (even though the guy is muslim). The police will be paying him a visit on account of his very serious religious and sexual intimidation and harassment. He may hate women who wear hijab, but he needs to learn that he cannot mess with them. :evil:

I need to learn not to babble on so much lol.

Salam

You dont babble Amal. You are much wiser than that.

Those were beautiful words you had written.

Respect for all ladies is something that Islam is really all about.

Omrow

You're like the wise woman, Amal.

Why are u guys pickin on Naz? :x

You keep dissectin her posts and takn them outta context.

Midnight wrote:

Why are u guys pickin on Naz? :x

You keep dissectin her posts and takn them outta context.

Im not picking of Naz (at least I dont think so?) But if I am guilty of that, then Im sorry :s In my defence, though, my profession is heavily based on concerning myself with subtle details in things, and arguing the point that I believe in. I spend half my time writing very pedantically :shock: :?

Naz wrote:

huh :? ok now im mega confused. What did he say that was sooo wrong. Am i missing something here. All he said was whether i was considering a life of celibacy. Whats so offensive/insulting/wrong about that? :? :? :?

This is turning into a big hoo-haa. Omrow didnt say anything horrific. Ive never said he did either. In fact, I mentioned that in my long post above. I just thought it was not approriate thing to say to a muslim girl. Thats it.

Salam

Midnight wrote:

Why are u guys pickin on Naz? :x

You keep dissectin her posts and takn them outta context.

She needs to be dissected Midnight.

The girl needs to be picked too.

I mean, picked on.

I just thanked Amal who was kind enough to correct me after I got out of line.

Omrow

I think Omrow should be picked on! YEAH LET'S GANG UP ON OMROW!!!!! WHOOOOOOO!

Courage wrote:

I think Omrow should be picked on! YEAH LET'S GANG UP ON OMROW!!!!! WHOOOOOOO!

Omrow wrote:

Salam

Midnight wrote:

Why are u guys pickin on Naz? :x

You keep dissectin her posts and takn them outta context.

She needs to be dissected Midnight.

The girl needs to be picked too.

I mean, picked on.

I just thanked Amal who was kind enough to correct me after I got out of line.

Omrow

Isnt saying a girl needs to be dissected and picked on out of line too, my friend?

Courage wrote:

You're like the wise woman, Amal.

Ha! I cant believe I missed this comment! :? :doubt: I live in la-la land half the time. The Disney Store is my favourite place to shop!! Im hardly wise, save that for Ed :doubt:

Omrow wrote:

Salam

Midnight wrote:

Why are u guys pickin on Naz? :x

You keep dissectin her posts and takn them outta context.

She needs to be dissected Midnight.

The girl needs to be picked too.

I mean, picked on.

I just thanked Amal who was kind enough to correct me after I got out of line.

Omrow

Isnt saying a girl needs to be dissected and picked on out of line too, my friend?

Naz wrote:

@Amal no you havent offended me in anyway nor do i find your posts offensive.

Now that we have cleared that up can we please get back to the topic.

Thats good, I dont like being mean to people, even unintentionally :S

Ya'qub wrote:

Amal wrote:

As well as other topics of interest, including football, cars, games, gadgets, films, tv programes: House, Prison Break, Family Guy, American Dad, Scrubs, Futurama, Criminal Minds, Doctor Who, CSI, Greys Anatomy, Smallville, the Simpsons and Battlestar Galactica (plus others that dont come to mind right this moment)

:shock:

How did Amal manage to get access? She has just written down the 20 most recent topics on the brother's forum (OK, that was joke, obviously there is no Grey's Anatomy thread because it is for girls*).

And to Courage: someone needs to add you to it. I don't know who has access but I suggest PM-ing Admin (although he may say something along the lines of 'the Revival website is not my problem anymore). TBH, you're really not missing anything.

*That was another joke. About half of all threads on the Guy's only forum are about Star Wars or Shaving Equipment.

Star Wars and Shaving Equipment? I guess I underestimated you guys! I thought it would go as far as that! :o Us girls have such deep and meaningful discussions

Salam

Amal wrote:

Isnt saying a girl needs to be dissected and picked on out of line too, my friend?

Yes, but only if she is a "full one".

Let me explain:

She is a tomboy.

So its only right that she should be taken apart.

No mercy for the in-betweens.

Omrow

Omrow wrote:

Salam

Amal wrote:

Isnt saying a girl needs to be dissected and picked on out of line too, my friend?

Yes, but only if she is a "full one".

Let me explain:

She is a tomboy.

So its only right that she should be taken apart.

No mercy for the in-betweens.

Omrow

Whats your definition of a tomboy? I was a bit of a tomboy when I was young. I used to climb trees and our garden wall. Make mud potions in the back garden. Steal apples from our neighbour's apple tree :shock: Play snes with my bro, clock games left right and centre. Im still a tomboy now when I want Tomboy isnt defined. Everyone has a mashaAllah unique character and personality. We cannot pigeon-hole them.

Girly girls can be annoying. Who wants to back-bite, chat about make-up, fashion and slimming all day :roll: :doubt:

I would have thought that the bold part included a succinct definition.

tomboy = in-between?

Omrow, just carry on playing with your dolls!

You people seem too concerned with appearances.
Judge me by my appearance, do you? And as well you should not.

Amal wrote:

Girly girls can be annoying.

True... but girly-boys are MUCH worse. And no, I don't include pushing a buggy in the definition of a girly-boy.

Insha'Allah I want a wife I can have a joke with and who won't take herself too seriously, and most girly-girls don't have a sense of humour. On the other hand, I don't want her to be able to beat me in an arm-wrestle either! I think I've found one with the perfect balance, may Allah (swt) give us all partners that complement us well (in both meanings of the word).

ameen.

Ya'qub wrote:

Amal wrote:

Girly girls can be annoying.

True... but girly-boys are MUCH worse. And no, I don't include pushing a buggy in the definition of a girly-boy.

Insha'Allah I want a wife I can have a joke with and who won't take herself too seriously, and most girly-girls don't have a sense of humour. On the other hand, I don't want her to be able to beat me in an arm-wrestle either! I think I've found one with the perfect balance, may Allah (swt) give us all partners that complement us well (in both meanings of the word).

You've already got a fiancee, mate! I'm sure she's the one. Inshallah.

Mr and Mrs Smith. Thats typeof team me and my wife going to be. I want a laugh with my.

Salam

Amal wrote:

Girly girls can be annoying.

Ya'qub wrote:

True... but girly-boys are MUCH worse.

A woman should stick to being a woman.

And a man should be a man and not try to act like a woman.

It embarrassing.

Girly girls and manly boys are the best things.

But girly boys and manly girls are useless.

They are not good for anything, especially marrying.

Omrow

Naz wrote:

Omrow wrote:

Salam

Amal wrote:

Girly girls can be annoying.

Ya'qub wrote:

True... but girly-boys are MUCH worse.

A woman should stick to being a woman.

And a man should be a man and not try to act like a woman.

It embarrassing.

Girly girls and manly boys are the best things.

But girly boys and manly girls are useless.

They are not good for anything, especially marrying.

Omrow

You think that these girls that spend most of their time b****ing about other girls, spending ridiculous amounts of money to get their claws sharpened and painted and laughing at everything and anything like stupid bims is what "normal" girls are suppose to be like? :?
In my opinion these kinds of girls are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the female race.

Sounds like som1 had a terrible childhood.
fyi i dont laugh at everything and anything. And jst becauz im a girly girl doesnt mean i b****h about stuff either. That is SUCH a generalisation.
Im very surprizd @ you!

wednesday wrote:

Naz wrote:

You think that these girls that spend most of their time b****ing about other girls, spending ridiculous amounts of money to get their claws sharpened and painted and laughing at everything and anything like stupid bims is what "normal" girls are suppose to be like? :?
In my opinion these kinds of girls are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the female race.

Bring big bags with straightners in 'em to straighten their hairs in public when sitting in the uni atirum or carrying bags too small to even fit a pencil ... abslute embarassment when the lecturers or fellow students walk past

Wear as much money as possible

look at the next guy to pass the entrance and just stare until they have eye contact and it all flourishes from there

wearing heels to climb mountains (bradie hills are mountains)

scream at the slightest of nudge, argue with 'mates' as though there's no body around

i'm just abt getting used to the neon make-up craze, but lets chuck in the lengthy arguements over the colours, whether they match or too dull or whether it's dolled enough or no

wearing leopard pattern with a snake skin bag and cheetah shoes and zebra scarf (OTT on the animal patterns)

defining the waist and curves (if there are any!) as much as possible, doesn't matter if the flab is floppy, just do it

hair open and everywhere, in the food, the eyes, and touching the food hands to sort out the hair ... flip the hair so taht they land in other's eyes (i know this is cruel but it's all true)

getting excited and giggling over anything and everything pathetic... screaming the names of each other half way across the hall

asking 'dumb' questions and then laughing at there own dumbness

using the words OMG and LOL and Shu' Up and bleeps

boredom is dealt with sheesha or smoking (remarkable number of ladies smoke in bradie!)

are these enough?

I don't understand... are you trying to define Omrow's ideal woman?