Submitted by Dave on 20 September, 2005 - 19:19 #31
I have noticed a slight change in Ed too...
I think that thing with Med and all the blasphemous screwing around from Judda and Mujahid might be testing his endurance. Then of course there is the magazine...
This is merely a forum - not a model for international government. We shouldn't demand perfect evenhandedness at all times from the administrators, they are afterall human.
Submitted by Beast on 20 September, 2005 - 19:21 #32
"Admin" wrote:
Quote:
All Muslim Jurists agree that sodomy is a sexual offence but they differ in the punishment. It is reported by Abu Hurairah (Rahmatullaahi Alayh) that the Messenger of Allah Ta’ala (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) said: " If you find someone who is committing an act of the people of Lut (i.e. homosexuality), kill the one on top and the one below", and in another statement it says " kill the doer and the one with whom the act is committed." (Tirmidhi, Baihaqi, Abu Dawood)
You can't just throw a hadith at us.
Give us the scholarly context.
Submitted by Aphrodite on 20 September, 2005 - 19:24 #33
"Constantine" wrote:
This is merely a forum - not a model for international government. We shouldn't demand perfect evenhandedness at all times from the administrators, they are afterall human.
Exactly, it's just an online forum.. .there's no need for him to be getting out of his pram so often
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~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~
"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson
Submitted by You on 20 September, 2005 - 19:24 #34
first line is the scholarly context. they disagree with the exact punishment...
I have no idea how legit they are, but Shaykh Google reccomended them to me as the first link...
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 20 September, 2005 - 19:27 #35
"Aphrodite" wrote:
"Constantine" wrote:
This is merely a forum - not a model for international government. We shouldn't demand perfect evenhandedness at all times from the administrators, they are afterall human.
Exactly, it's just an online forum.. .there's no need for him to be getting out of his pram so often
Oh i'm not saying it's right to fly off like that... but I certainly think if I were in the same circumstances I would be equally irritable.
I mean the guy has devoted a significant amount of his time and energy to a free website, magazine, and forum to promote his dearly beloved religion and he sees Judda coming on and lambasting that religion left right center up and down.
I just don't think I consider myself in a position to judge.
Submitted by Beast on 20 September, 2005 - 19:28 #36
"Admin" wrote:
I have no idea how legit they are, but Shaykh Google reccomended them to me as the first link...
You know, taking Google™ as your shaykh isn't a good idea.
Submitted by You on 20 September, 2005 - 19:31 #37
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 20 September, 2005 - 19:33 #38
A group of people seem to have got together and written alot on all the religions and cults they could find...
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Beast on 20 September, 2005 - 19:43 #41
"Admin" wrote:
Oiii! leave the shaykh alone!
:evil:
That whole site is like that.
A group of people seem to have got together and written alot on all the religions and cults they could find...
Hardly reliable. :roll:
They have a bias.
They have no understanding of the faith.
They are giving bullet points, not detailed explanations.
they aint infallible-nor were they sent from above with a divine message
we have one who's googled up in the head :twisted:
if they want to contribute (which they should)
they should be HONEST
naturally some of the crap that some crazy posters come out with is gonna make then mad-
not everyone can practise patience and self control-we're only human
judda budda makes most of us sick-he's stupid, dirty and blasphemous
he shoulda been banned time ago
I agree that he should be ignored and not responded to
Submitted by judda on 21 September, 2005 - 08:50 #43
Firstly I am not a kid, being 14 means that I am nearly a man, innit Ed?
Secondly it was not Rashads trasalation of the koran that made him a kafir it was his rejection of hadith and sunnah and his claims of being a [b]messenger[/b] from god (messenger not prophet mate, i did give u a koranic defintion of it, but u deleted coz u cud not gimmee an answer)
thirdly I asked to be banned because we have got comps in most of our classes and it is sucking up my concentration.
forthly no matter how much u try to "guide me" there is only so much I will liston to...
fiftly I like Ed despite the fact he is stooping down to my level....
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What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Submitted by judda on 21 September, 2005 - 09:12 #44
"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
so no torture, so its either 100 lashes, stoning, imprisonment...if the person is found guilty with witnesses.
can the person choose thier own punishment?
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What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
I have noticed a slight change in Ed too...
I think that thing with Med and all the blasphemous screwing around from Judda and Mujahid might be testing his endurance. Then of course there is the magazine...
This is merely a forum - not a model for international government. We shouldn't demand perfect evenhandedness at all times from the administrators, they are afterall human.
You can't just throw a hadith at us.
Give us the scholarly context.
Exactly, it's just an online forum.. .there's no need for him to be getting out of his pram so often
~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~
"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson
first line is the scholarly context. they disagree with the exact punishment...
I got that from:
http://www.jamiat.org.za/aljamiat/march2002/al_jamiat_march_2002.htm
I have no idea how legit they are, but Shaykh Google reccomended them to me as the first link...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Oh i'm not saying it's right to fly off like that... but I certainly think if I were in the same circumstances I would be equally irritable.
I mean the guy has devoted a significant amount of his time and energy to a free website, magazine, and forum to promote his dearly beloved religion and he sees Judda coming on and lambasting that religion left right center up and down.
I just don't think I consider myself in a position to judge.
You know, taking Google™ as your shaykh isn't a good idea.
Ed are you quoting [url=http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_isla.htm]here[/url] when you gave your bit?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
The Islamic Society of North America is dead right on that page
This webpage is a serious hotchpotch isn't it?
They even cite Al-Muhajiroon and Ahmadis.
Oh the dangers of Shaykh Google™. :roll:
Oiii! leave the shaykh alone!
:evil:
That whole site is like that.
A group of people seem to have got together and written alot on all the religions and cults they could find...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Hardly reliable. :roll:
They have a bias.
They have no understanding of the faith.
They are giving bullet points, not detailed explanations.
Down with Shaykh Google™!!!
the Mods are only human
they aint infallible-nor were they sent from above with a divine message
we have one who's googled up in the head :twisted:
if they want to contribute (which they should)
they should be HONEST
naturally some of the crap that some crazy posters come out with is gonna make then mad-
not everyone can practise patience and self control-we're only human
judda budda makes most of us sick-he's stupid, dirty and blasphemous
he shoulda been banned time ago
I agree that he should be ignored and not responded to
Firstly I am not a kid, being 14 means that I am nearly a man, innit Ed?
Secondly it was not Rashads trasalation of the koran that made him a kafir it was his rejection of hadith and sunnah and his claims of being a [b]messenger[/b] from god (messenger not prophet mate, i did give u a koranic defintion of it, but u deleted coz u cud not gimmee an answer)
thirdly I asked to be banned because we have got comps in most of our classes and it is sucking up my concentration.
forthly no matter how much u try to "guide me" there is only so much I will liston to...
fiftly I like Ed despite the fact he is stooping down to my level....
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
can the person choose thier own punishment?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
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