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"irfan" wrote:

But you can find really dull ones by individuals with alot of time on their hands (have a look around the profiles in that [i]other[/i] forum :twisted: ).

which one- MPAC?

would u consider making one-I could help u with it if u want?

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
"irfan" wrote:

But you can find really dull ones by individuals with alot of time on their hands (have a look around the profiles in that [i]other[/i] forum :twisted: ).

which one- MPAC?

would u consider making one-I could help u with it if u want?

Not MPAC, the one from [i]over the water[/i]. Ask ur Sis.

How about u make one and I'll help u with it.

irfan include diary entries

people are very nosy-they'll love to read that

and make it FUNNY-get some stuff from manic muslim

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
irfan include diary entries

people are very nosy-they'll love to read that

With all due respect I'm not going to divulge details of my private life on some blog!

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

and make it FUNNY-get some stuff from manic muslim

That's a good idea. He has a new article every two weeks or so. I'll post them up as he does.

"irfan" wrote:

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

and make it FUNNY-get some stuff from manic muslim

That's a good idea. He has a new article every two weeks or so. I'll post them up as he does.

yea do that...his stuffs well funny Lol

[size=18]No toilet, no seat, says minister [/size]

Village council candidates in India should be allowed to stand for election only if they have a toilet at home, the rural development minister says.

In a letter to all chief ministers, Raghuvansh Prasad Singh said the toilet rule should be set out in law.

He said too many elected members "do not have toilet facilities in their own houses and defecate in the open".

Mr Singh said this activity was the main cause of the high incidence of diarrhoea in rural areas.

Mr Singh told the BBC that more than 65% of India's rural population defecated in the open, along roadsides, railway tracks and fields, generating huge amounts of excrement every day.

"This finds its way into the water sources," Mr Singh said.

About 70% of India's billion-plus population live in its more than 550,000 rural villages.

"It is unfortunate that a large number of elected village council members and rural government officers do not have toilet facilities in their own houses and defecate in the open," Mr Singh's letter said.

The minister said they needed to change their behaviour and adopt better sanitation and hygiene practices.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4742929.stm]BBC[/url]

unloading out in the open, and if u take in2 consideration thier population....wow that must stink :shock:

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

[size=18]Piano Man: What's the score? [/size]

[b]The mystery of Piano Man is solved, proclaim the papers. But is it really? And what does the whole saga say about us? [/b]

So that's it?

After four months of feverish speculation about the real identity of the man "washed up" on a Kent beach, we have the answer we didn't want.

A collective sense of anticlimax, maybe even a sense of being cheated, prevails as the mystery unravels around the haunted-looking stranger who suddenly appeared in our midst.

He isn't the tortured genius people willed him to be; he could speak all along; he wasn't a pianist of even moderate skill. And, we're told, he wasn't autistic.

Instead he is a 20-year-old Bavarian, named in reports as Andreas Grassl, who has flown back to Germany. And with him goes both the Hollywood ending and the magical possibilty that something would remain unsolved in a world which likes to explain everything.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4176032.stm]BBC[/url]

[size=18]Red Army's 'ghosts' of Afghanistan [/size]

To the men of the Red Army who fought in Afghanistan, their elusive mujahideen enemy were always called simply the "Dukhi" - the ghosts.

But when their last tank rolled back across the Oxus river in February 1989, the Russians left behind some Cold War ghosts of their own.

In the hills of northern Afghanistan, there are still men with pale skin who talk Russian when they are together.

Until 1981, Nasratullah was a soldier in the Red Army called Nikolai.

Together with two others, now known as Rahmatullah and Aminullah, he survives from a total of five Soviet soldiers known to have been captured and converted to Islam.

They went on to fight against their old comrades with the mujahideen.
[b]
'Terrible fight' [/b]

The ill-fated Soviet adventure in Afghanistan is often compared to America's disastrous foray into Vietnam.

Russia says it lost 13,000 of its soldiers between 1979 and 1989.

An estimated 1.3m Afghans, mainly civilians, also died.

Today, 45-year-old Nasratullah is a softly spoken, melancholic, chain smoker who earns $80 a month as a policeman.

But until his conversion to Islam, he was a junior officer from an elite Soviet parachute regiment.

He agreed to be interviewed only with the encouragement of his former mujahideen comrades. He remains close to the men who first captured him.

"We captured Nasratullah during an ambush in Kaligai village in 1981," recalls his white bearded former commander, Sufi Payda Mohammed, eyes rimmed with kohl.

His mujahideen band operated in the steep-sided valleys of Baghlan province, along the key re-supply route from the Uzbek border to Kabul.

The mujahideen commander remembers "a very terrible fight" during which they killed around 20 Russian soldiers.

Nikolai was the sole survivor, captured after he exhausted his ammunition and hid in a drainage ditch under the road.

The area around what was known as Soviet Base 80 is still littered with the rusting tanks and destroyed supply vehicles.

Local people say Russian embassy officials returned to the area last year offering cash rewards for the location of the graves of missing Russian soldiers. They left with six exhumed bodies.

[b]Deserter [/b]

Nasratullah himself tells a different, more ideologically-driven version of how he came to fall into mujahideen hands.

He says he witnessed a massacre of more than 70 civilians at Kaligai.

"We swore in the Russian army on the sword and the Bible to help society. It was against the law what was done," he says.

In horror and disgust, he says he simply turned and walked away from his unit.

Prisoners were often killed by both sides, but Nikolai was found by villagers who cared for him and then passed him to the mujahideen.

It was a year, he says, before he decided to convert. During that time he helped to mend mechanical equipment.

"I didn't choose to convert," he says today. "The religion chose me."

His former captors deny that any of the men were forced to become Muslims, or did so through fear.

[b]Amnesty[/b]

They were renamed by the clerics who converted them. Nasratullah then spent eight years in the frontline with the mujahideen.

According to his comrades, the Russian converts were decent fighters and particularly useful for listening to Russian radio traffic.

"If you are in the frontline then you must fight and you must kill," is all he will say about fighting against his countrymen.

Nasratullah says he was born in 1960, in the Ukrainian city of Kharkov. He will not give his last name.

His father was also a soldier in the Red Army and Nikolai attended a military academy, which he will not identify.

He volunteered for service in Afghanistan and served there for three months before his capture.

In July 1988, Moscow offered an amnesty to all Russian prisoners of war in Afghanistan, whatever they had done during their captivity.

None of the Russian converts took the offer, though all have visited Russia since the war.

"They said that they felt like white pigeons among black crows in Russia," says Sufi Muhammed.

"They told us 'we were devout and wanted to pray, but our families had no belief and didn't understand us'."

[b]Disillusionment [/b]

When he visited the Ukraine in 1996, Nasratullah met some of his old Red Army comrades.

He says he was relieved when they did not blame him for his conversion, or for joining the mujahideen.

Like many of the veterans of Vietnam, Russia's Afghan veterans have suffered wide disillusionment.

There were mass protests in June by some of the Ukraine's 150,000 Afghan war veterans, many of whom survive on a state pension of $40 a month.

"Russia and Afghanistan are not so different," says Nasratullah. "I have a good life here, though the economy is not very good."

Under the Taleban, Nasratullah and his fellow Russians came to the attention of leader Mullah Mohammed Omar who, impressed with their devout lives, gave them homes and businesses.

All three have local wives and families. Three years ago, Nasratullah had a daughter he named Mosal.

But after the Taleban fell in 2001, the houses were reclaimed and none of the three is considered rich.

Locally, they are regarded as curiosities, and admired for being devout.

Nasratullah says that while he has the support of his old mujahideen comrades and his Islamic faith he will never leave Afghanistan.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4177312.stm]BBC[/url]

Women battle on with mosque plan

Muslim women in a small town in southern India have come together to form a community of elders or jamat, traditionally dominated by men.

This is the first step towards their ultimate goal, building a mosque exclusively for women.

A jamat has traditionally almost always consisted of men, who meet in mosques to adjudicate on family matters.

At present women are not represented in jamats and are allowed to pray inside the mosques only on special days.

In the small town of Pudukottai in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, a big revolution is underway.

In a two-storey, red-brick house, a group of Muslim women are sitting together, discussing plans to build India's first women's mosque.

"A Muslim woman has no space, she's confined to the kitchen, the bedroom and the delivery room. And if a woman petitions the jamat, she's not allowed to appear before it.

"The jamat calls her husband to put across his point of view, but a woman has to be represented by her father and her brother. The jamat announces its decision without even hearing her. That is not justice."

Aneesur Rahman Azami is the director of the Islamic Research and Guidance Centre.

He says the women's demand for their own mosque is against Islam.

Daud Sharifa says the community elders ignored their request to reserve two seats in the jamat for women.

Now, she's adamant that at their mosque, all the office-bearers will be women.

"If men want to come into our mosque to pray, they can.

"But it will be a women's mosque, we will write its constitution, we will administer it, we will run it."

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4165440.stm]BBC NEWS[/url]

This is what happens when women are sidelined :twisted:

The New York Times quoted the religious rulings of Ayatollah Sisitani of Iraq. Someone asked him on the islamic view about eating in McDonald !!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/weekinreview/28read.html

Getting Personal: Advice From Ayatollah Sistani on Marriage, McDonald's and More

By MARC D. CHARNEY
New York Times - Published: Sunday August 28, 2005

For the drafters of Iraq's constitution, the role of Islamic law has been a point of contention; the bloc of Shiite parties supported the draft's provision for a role for clerical adjudication of family and personal disputes. Examples of how Shiite clerics view specific personal matters can be gleaned from the answers to questions from Muslims about the permissibility of many things - including bank interest, the wearing of gold, and oral sex - that appear as a guide for believers on the official Web site of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the most revered Shiite cleric in Iraq (www.sistani.org). Here is a selection, from the site's English translation.

Question. Are there any rights given to a woman to choose the life partner of her own choice? Especially after she has been rejected by her fiancé. Can she be pressured to marry the same person just because he is her cousin?
Answer. Consent and agreement of the woman is a must. Without her consent, a marriage contract is invalid.
Q. Can a man marry without the permission of a woman's parents?
A. Neither permanent nor temporary marriage can be carried out without the satisfaction of her father or grandfather.
Q. Is it permissible to talk to a non-Mahram [unrelated] girl with the intention of seeking consent to marry her in the future?
A. Due to the probability of committing sins, it is not permissible.
Q. Can a husband and wife have sex with each other while looking at each other in a mirror?
A. It's permissible.
Q. Is it permissible for the husband to force his wife not to get pregnant even though she wants to? By forcing her to take pills, injections or use an IUD?
A. He has no right to do that.
Q. Is it permissible for a woman to use contraceptives in order to prevent conception?
A. It is permissible for a woman to use contraceptives (the pill) to prevent pregnancy, provided that it does not damage her health in a serious manner, irrespective of whether or not the husband has agreed to it.
Q. If a Muslim woman is raped (out of marriage by a stranger), is she permitted to have an abortion?
A. No, she is not permitted except for when it may cause her an insufferable problem or difficulty. For instance, in the case that she might be killed if her relatives come to know about her pregnancy, she is allowed to have abortion.
Q. Is one allowed to consume alcohol for medical purposes? Consume drugs for medical purposes?
A. It is permissible to benefit from just the amount needed for treatment.
Q. Is it allowed to eat at McDonald's restaurant?
A. You are allowed to eat those meals which do not contain meat. And you can eat meat also, if the seller is a Muslim and the seller has made sure that the meat belonged to an animal that had been slaughtered according to Islamic conditions.
Q. Is it haram [forbidden] for a Muslim to listen to music? If yes, why? Please explain.
A. Frivolous and licentious music is haram. The crucial line is in it being commensurate with the gatherings of entertainment and moral depravity.
Q. Living in Canada, it is very difficult to avoid mortgage. What is the Islamic law about mortgaging a house in Canada?
A. You can receive the money not with the intention of borrowing it, rather with the intention of securing the money (from their hands). (Here, it means that the intention you may have is very important).
Q. What is your ruling on shaking hands with a non-Mahram? Can a man shake hands with a non-Muslim woman?
A. A Muslim man is not allowed to shake hands with a woman without a barrier, such as gloves, unless refraining from shaking hands will put him in a considerable harm or unbearable difficulty. In the latter case, he is allowed to shake hands to the extent of necessity only.

[size=18]Just give us the fax, Mr Blair... [/size]

Tony Blair may be on a mission to further open up relations with China - but giving 100 million Chinese his fax number is probably not what he had in mind.

Thanks to TV interviewer Shui Junyi, that is precisely what he has done.

The host of Central China Television's political programme Top Talk told his 100 million strong audience, and 100 or so students and professors in the studio, that he knew the British prime minister liked answering his letters, faxes and emails (slightly bemused smile from said PM).

"And I have another surprise for him," Mr Shui said, suddenly brandishing a large blue placard with a series of numbers on it.

"Do you recognise it?" he asked.

Mr Blair clearly didn't, only spotting it was a phone number.

"It is your fax number in your office at 10 Downing Street," grinned Mr Shui.

The spin doctors' faces were a picture, the prime minister did his best to look surprised (easy) and unperturbed (not quite so easy).

If I was a fax machine salesman, I would be knocking on Downing Street's door right now with a good new-for- old deal.

Mr Blair, a past master at handling these awkward moments, quickly recovered his composure and began talking about how he can't answer all the 800,000 pieces of correspondence he receives each year, much as he would probably like to.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4219528.stm]BBC[/url]

[size=18]US to do first face transplant [/size]

US surgeons are to interview a shortlist of patients hoping to be the first to receive a face transplant.

Doctors in the US have already carried out the procedure on dead bodies donated for medical research.

Now the Cleveland Clinic team will choose a patient whose face is disfigured to receive a "new" face from a dead donor.

The chance it will work is around 50% and experts have expressed safety and ethical concerns about the procedure.

[b]A new face[/b]

The recipient would have to take powerful anti-rejection drugs for life, which carry considerable long-term health risks, says the Royal College of Surgeons of England, which formed a working party to look at the issue earlier this year.

Also, it is not known how well an individual and their loved ones would adapt psychologically to a completely new face.

It is hard to predict what the person would look like after a face transplant.

The procedure would involve taking skin and underlying tissues from a dead donor and placing them on the living recipient.

Computer modelling suggests the new face would neither resemble the donor nor recipient's pre-injury self.

The face should take on more of the characteristics of the skeleton of the recipient than the soft tissues of the donor.

The recipient should be able to eat, drink and communicate again through a wide variety of facial expressions and mannerisms.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4259538.stm]BBC[/url]

Face transplant??? :shock:

Dats crazy..wats dis world becumin in2

Id agree wid Islamic Science Wink ..its top but medical science its just boring coz every time all they do is cum up wid weird stuff thinkin their sommat special

"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"

A sign of the day of the Judgement no doubt!!

Damn these surgeons

Nonetheless.....Michael Jackson should give it a go, he aint got much to lose Biggrin

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:
A sign of the day of the Judgement no doubt!!

I agree these surely r the signs

"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"

Do not judge others.

I saw a documentray on Fice about a week ago. A person was given a face transplant.

Now the bit that will help you open your eyes.

It was a kid. With four tumours. They were so large, it was estimaed he wold die soon as they would block all airways.

I am sure he could not open his eyes. I am not sure how he ate. It was probably through a drip feed.

The evil surgeons saved his life.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

yeah but this wont be for people who need it to save thier lives

its jus gona be like cloning, playing god

next your gona justify that :roll:

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

Well we cannot do anything without the power of Allah(swt).

Do you wish someone rather die than recieve the treatment they need?

It's jehovah's witnesses who do not agree with tretment of illness, as it is against gods will?

The islamic tradition is rather different. illneses are a test. We have the cure to some. We can use them. We can also misuse them.

Re cloning: my argument against it is not one of religion.

If a person is cloned s/he will be more of a labrat.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

What's your personal view on organ transplants/donations?

~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~

"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson

"Aphrodite" wrote:
What's your personal view on organ transplants/donations?

Nowt wrong with them.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

organ transplants and NESSECARY face transplants are a diff thing, if theyre needed then i guess its ok

but having a choice to pick n mix your baby, clone ur child, change ur face........all a loada codswallop

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"Admin" wrote:
"Aphrodite" wrote:
What's your personal view on organ transplants/donations?

Nowt wrong with them.

Ok, if you know Islamically they're not allowed, does your view change?

~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~

"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson

It would have to. Would it not?

Again I do not see anything wrong with it.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
It would have to. Would it not?

Again I do not see anything wrong with it.

As far as I'm aware, organ donation is prohibited in Islam. I used to carry a donor card until I knew.

~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~

"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson

Just Using IslamOnline:

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[url=http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-Englis...
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Not much Detail though...

... and I have heard that yeasterday Hamza Yusuf complaigned about my beloved Shaykh Google...

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
Just Using IslamOnline:

[url=http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-Englis...
[url=http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-Englis...
[url=http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-Englis...

Not much Detail though...

... and I have heard that yeasterday Hamza Yusuf complaigned about my beloved Shaykh Google...

I'll read all that tomorrow.. my eyes have gone funny.

as far as I'm aware, and I should've clarified that up there ^^, a living donor can give up an organ so long as their own quality of life doesn't drastically deteriorate, they have given full consent, and the organ is DONATED rather then sold, which would make it haraam. Donor card carrying is prohibited - "The bequest (Wasiyyat) of a person that after his death, his organs be donated is forbidden in Shariah"

What's wrong with Googley?

~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~

"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson

Its the fact that someone supposedly asked him why are the doors to ijtihad closed, and he asked where was such a preposterous thing uttered...

But this is a second hand report. I was not there.

From those 'fatawa' as long as the individual had agreed t it previously, upon death organs can be used for transplantaton.

A quote from one of them:

Quote:
...The Fiqh Academy of the Organization of the Islamic Conference in Jeddah, during the year 1408, and the Mufti of Egypt Dr. Sayyed At-Tantawi also allowed the use of the body organs of a person who has died in an accident, if the necessity requires the use of any organ to cure a patient, provided that a competent and trustworthy Muslim physician makes this decision.

It is important to note that most of the jurists have only allowed the donation of the organs. They do not allow the sale of human organs. Their position is that the sale of human organs violates the rules of the dignity and honor of the human being, and so it would be haram in that case.

Some jurists suggest that because people have become too materialistic and it may not be possible to find a free organ, under necessity one can purchase the organs, but a Muslim should never sell his/her organs.” ...

Quote:
...Conditions associated with deceased donors:

1. It must be done after having ascertained the free consent of the donor prior to his /her death. It can be through a will to that effect, or signing the donor card, etc....

However There are opposing views on this from what I have heard.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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