Secular Vs Religious Society

Published by eH on 20 November, 2006 - 15:51

It would seem to be a given that Muslims would prefer to live in a wholly Islamic society.

Is this the case? What are your views in living in a secular society? What is your ideal society?

I would be extremely interested in your views.

Submitted by mmm on 20 November, 2006 - 15:59

This topic is irrelevant if you intend to argue the point that Muslims are not for secular society.

Of course Muslims would like to live in a Islamic society, Jews in a Jewish Society, the BNP in a all white society….etc

A better topic would be:
What kind of society would you like to live in?

Your intentions seem to be misguided.

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He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!

Submitted by eH on 20 November, 2006 - 16:19

"mmm" wrote:
This topic is irrelevant if you intend to argue the point that Muslims are not for secular society.

Of course Muslims would like to live in a Islamic society, Jews in a Jewish Society, the BNP in a all white society….etc

A better topic would be:
What kind of society would you like to live in?

Your intentions seem to be misguided.

An intelligent man doesn't pre-judge, he also should read the OP in more detail. I asked "What is your ideal society" - this is more or less equivelant to "What kind of society would you like to live in".

The point of the post is to determine [b]if[/b] there are advantages in secularism which are available to you but denied to others.

The topic is very relevant.

Submitted by The Great 100 on 20 November, 2006 - 16:51

In answer to mmm's comment, as one Jew, I prefer to live in a secular society.

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Submitted by poster on 20 November, 2006 - 21:59

"mmm" wrote:

[b]Of course Muslims would like to live in a Islamic society,[/b] Jews in a Jewish Society, the BNP in a all white society….etc

speak for your self! :roll:

Most Muslims prefer to live in a secular society.

An ideal society IMHO is a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-faith society living side by side each other. I would like people to be well integrated, instead of killing others we should be willing to die for one another.

I want to live in a society where persecution of Others, cheating in Trade & Monopolizing is the exception and not the norm.

However to keep it interesting we need the odd nut case like Nick Griffin :twisted: But people like Bakri and Hamza is going way too far!

I want people to be secular but not too materialistic (if that makes any sense).

Submitted by You on 20 November, 2006 - 22:12

I don't think we are actually capable of living under a 'fully Islamic society'.

Even the basics of the Islamic state (brotherhood) were established 13 or so years of preaching at the time of the Prophet (saw).

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Beast on 20 November, 2006 - 23:35

People have different ideas about what a secular society is. To some it's an irreligious atheist society. To others it's a society which does not discriminate on the basis of religious belief and respects all religions equally.

I think the latter definition is what I see it as and as such I don't mind this model. The irreligious athiest model of society is what I have a problem with.

Having said that, I believe an Islamic society based strictly on Quranic and Prophetic values is the ideal society. Whether such a society exists, or is even viable on earth, is another matter.

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