Lets Thank god that 'Ed is not a judge. I know you hate him (and do not even try to deny it), but it would be better if you did not respond to him.
Fitnah: trials or temptations that test the unity of the Muslim community
Bid'ah: Innovation in religion.
Murtad: Apostate, someone who has left the fold of Islam
TJ: Tablighi Jamaat
thanx
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Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
yeah well... i hope the police think the same way as you.
:?
Weird girl....
no not really, it's just that they could find stuff to do with bin laden in my house, and then i'm busted
What the hell are you on about??? :?
don't worry
—
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
Submitted by Angel on 10 August, 2006 - 22:29 #134
"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
I cant stand Med
Ed DEF cant stand Med
Sirus cant stand Med
even angel/Dust reg disagree with Med and put him in his place
other ignore him cos he's not worth the effort
I reg put him in his place
so the Q arises-does the prob lie with the "revival forum" or with a certian Mad Med?
lol Mad Med, good one. I can't stand him either but have a good way of keepin it quiet i guess. lol at Ed's post but how true.
Zara, what do u have of OBL's in your house? :shock:
Submitted by Medarris on 10 August, 2006 - 23:28 #135
"*DUST*" wrote:
don't give me that. differing is different to disrespecting, and suggesting in your usual self-righteous manner that a Mufti has been 'unfortunately influenced' is disrespectful.
how did Mufti Muhammad's opinion on the cutting of hair differ from Maulana Taqi's ruling btw?
oh rite. Now I get ya.
Your contention is that saying Mufti Ibn Adam hafizahullah has been influenced or however I put it is disrespectful?
I apologise for that - if it came out disrespectfully then for that I apologise but again that comment was not from my ownself. Certain ulama did comment that Mufti Sahib came back unfortunately influenced from Syria - it was on that basis that I said it.
Mufti Ibn Adam's opinion regarding women cutting their hair is that he says they may with certain strict conditions - Mufti Taqi Uthmani Sahib and Mufti Zubayr Sahib say its not permitted at all.
again if you think that was disrespectful then ALLAH knows that was not my intention - I was merely saying what certain ulama said after Mufti came back from Syria.
These days I guess you have to think twice before downloading things like the jolly roger cook book...
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
These days I guess you have to think twice before downloading things like the jolly roger cook book...
I take it that's not a Book of Buccaneer Barbeque Recipes
Submitted by *DUST* on 10 August, 2006 - 23:52 #140
"Med" wrote:
oh rite. Now I get ya.
Your contention is that saying Mufti Ibn Adam hafizahullah has been influenced or however I put it is disrespectful?
I apologise for that - if it came out disrespectfully then for that I apologise
its not me you should be apologising to. you should think before you speak (or write, in this case).
"Med" wrote:
but again that comment was not from my ownself. Certain ulama did comment that Mufti Sahib came back unfortunately influenced from Syria - it was on that basis that I said it.
may i know which ulama?
"Med" wrote:
Mufti Ibn Adam's opinion regarding women cutting their hair is that he says they may with certain strict conditions - Mufti Taqi Uthmani Sahib and Mufti Zubayr Sahib say its not permitted at all.
again if you think that was disrespectful then ALLAH knows that was not my intention - I was merely saying what certain ulama said after Mufti came back from Syria.
unfortunately your intention is something between yourself and Allah alone. so you should think before you write things down because thats all we base our comments on.
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Medarris on 10 August, 2006 - 23:58 #141
Look Dust - I said I wasnt intending disrespect. As far as Im concerned thats the end of it. You can carry on banging on about it if you want.
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Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by *DUST* on 11 August, 2006 - 00:14 #142
"Med" wrote:
Look Dust - I said I wasnt intending disrespect. As far as Im concerned thats the end of it. You can carry on banging on about it if you want.
i'm not banging on about anything, i was merely commenting. sorry if you found it hard to stomach.
please may i know which 'ulama you were referring to?
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
These days I guess you have to think twice before downloading things like the jolly roger cook book...
I take it that's not a Book of Buccaneer Barbeque Recipes
nope recipe's of a diferent kind. Its a bit long winded (too much effort to let nails rust to collect the iron rust... and then also collect aluminium 'rust' (what do you call it?), mix together, get some magnesium... it may be bright, hot, but too much hassle. But then again there is a simple recipe for napalm. shockingly simple. Not sure if it works, but that is the thing. don't wanna know if it does. Its similar to the one used in Fight club to make explosives.), and has simple things like how to make thermite solution etc...
...it would be seen as interesting reading these days by authorities now.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Sirus on 11 August, 2006 - 11:33 #144
lol
i had a gud laff reading this
Ya Muhammad, Ya Ali, Ya Ghous-e-Azam, Ya Fareed
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Medarris on 11 August, 2006 - 17:38 #145
"*DUST*" wrote:
please may i know which 'ulama you were referring to?
I have an inclination against disclosing the names of the ulama - partly because I am only aware of the names of about half the ulama that were in that majlis and more importantly because I dont want to attribute anything said by them in privacy publicly. My saying it myself is different to the ulama saying it in private.
[b][size=18]Ya ALLAH Madad.[/size][/b][size=9]
Ba'd Khuda Ma'bood na koi
Jiddee ikkoo zaaat,
o
Ba'd Muhammad Nabi na koi,
Jiddee uchhiyaan shaan.
After God there is none worthy of worship,
He who is One and Eternal.
And
After Muhammad there is no Prophet
He who has High Rank.
Now by your definition that makes you a mushrik...
and last time you brought this up, I actually gave a full answer. Why do you keep going over lost ground?
And you do realise none of those phrases are phrases of worship?
and sticking an urdu poem does not make your view any less wrong.
I would like it if people stuck to english.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by laila on 11 August, 2006 - 21:49 #147
"Med" wrote:
The salafi brothers hate - absolutely hate - the barelwiyyah. I wasnt that way so much before - partly because I grew up in that type of culture but something agitates me a lot. I dont really mind so much personal insults or mockery or sarcasm - because thats not important. But this attraction to shirk and bid'aat that exists among people really does grind on me.
Tawheed is what my Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam came for. It was for tawheed that Banu Hashim spent months and months under social boycott outside Makkah, it was for tawheed that my Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam was stoned by the streeturchins of Taif, it was for tawheed that my Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam left the city of His Birth and the Ka'batullah and emigrated to Madinah Munawwarah.
To see people who claim to be followers of the Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam attributing qualities that are exclusively belonging to ALLAH to the Holy Nabi salallhu alayhi wa sallam is the biggest insult to the sacrifice of Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam. And its not even the majorities fault - its the fault of their priests who have done such a thing that really I cant get over it.
The salafiyyah have no time for the barelwiyyah and I can understand why:
to put it bluntly - Shaykh Abdul Azeez from Riyadh said to me when I told him what the barelwiyyah swear at us said :
Barewli? i have heaarrd of them. Barelwi - Kaafir Kaafir.
Im beginning to understand.
so Med you are only beginning to understand why not go the whole nine yards and fully agree with the Shaykh.
personally and strangely your words do not perturb me i'm so glad and thankful to be a brelvi that i am constantly thanking Allah for this favour he has bestowed on me
whilst the Muslim ummah are involved in such petty squabbles amongst themselves the world is leaving us behind isolated and scorned
can you not at least see that hatred between brothers is destroying us from within, especially as only Allah knows who is right and who is wrong
Submitted by Medarris on 11 August, 2006 - 23:44 #148
Admin - keep statements in their context and the aqaa'id behind them.
And I aint going over anything - cant be bothered.
Laila - love and hate is for the sake of ALLAH. We are meant to love people for ALLAH'S sake and we are meant to hate for ALLAH'S sake - this is the millah of Sayyidina Ibraheem alayhis salaam and the seerah of Nabi Muhammad salallahu alayhi wa sallam.
Admin - keep statements in their context and the aqaa'id behind them.
And I aint going over anything - cant be bothered.
Be clear. Which statements in context? Your two? My two?
Is your poem off topic? Are you highlighting istighaasah? or are you not comfortable with using Yaa?
I will drop it as soon as you do. You cannot make statements, and then not expect to be called up on it. Its simple really.
If you do not want to go over it, drop it. That's your prerogative, not mine.
Just came to me that your post may (I said may, not is. Dunno) have been in jest... which would make me look like a fool! No matter, I look good as a fool.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Medarris on 11 August, 2006 - 23:57 #150
I have dropped it. You can carry on knawing at that bone if u want.
thanx
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
I cant stand Med
Ed DEF cant stand Med
Sirus cant stand Med
even angel/Dust reg disagree with Med and put him in his place
other ignore him cos he's not worth the effort
I reg put him in his place
so the Q arises-does the prob lie with the "revival forum" or with a certian Mad Med?
i like med
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
u also like Bin Laden.
Nuff said. :roll:
only cuz he's a muslim brother (grandad more like, he's old!) but not his actions. same reason i like med, but med is also funny.
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
lol
not funny!
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
Well it's not my fault i find it funny..
yeah well... i hope the police think the same way as you.
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
:?
Weird girl....
no not really, it's just that they could find stuff to do with bin laden in my house, and then i'm busted
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
What the hell are you on about??? :?
don't worry
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
lol Mad Med, good one. I can't stand him either but have a good way of keepin it quiet i guess. lol at Ed's post but how true.
Zara, what do u have of OBL's in your house? :shock:
oh rite. Now I get ya.
Your contention is that saying Mufti Ibn Adam hafizahullah has been influenced or however I put it is disrespectful?
I apologise for that - if it came out disrespectfully then for that I apologise but again that comment was not from my ownself. Certain ulama did comment that Mufti Sahib came back unfortunately influenced from Syria - it was on that basis that I said it.
Mufti Ibn Adam's opinion regarding women cutting their hair is that he says they may with certain strict conditions - Mufti Taqi Uthmani Sahib and Mufti Zubayr Sahib say its not permitted at all.
again if you think that was disrespectful then ALLAH knows that was not my intention - I was merely saying what certain ulama said after Mufti came back from Syria.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
lol no actually it is pretty funny
[i]oookay....[/i]
These days I guess you have to think twice before downloading things like the jolly roger cook book...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I take it that's not a Book of Buccaneer Barbeque Recipes
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Look Dust - I said I wasnt intending disrespect. As far as Im concerned thats the end of it. You can carry on banging on about it if you want.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
i'm not banging on about anything, i was merely commenting. sorry if you found it hard to stomach.
please may i know which 'ulama you were referring to?
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
nope recipe's of a diferent kind. Its a bit long winded (too much effort to let nails rust to collect the iron rust... and then also collect aluminium 'rust' (what do you call it?), mix together, get some magnesium... it may be bright, hot, but too much hassle. But then again there is a simple recipe for napalm. shockingly simple. Not sure if it works, but that is the thing. don't wanna know if it does. Its similar to the one used in Fight club to make explosives.), and has simple things like how to make thermite solution etc...
...it would be seen as interesting reading these days by authorities now.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
lol
i had a gud laff reading this
Ya Muhammad, Ya Ali, Ya Ghous-e-Azam, Ya Fareed

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
I have an inclination against disclosing the names of the ulama - partly because I am only aware of the names of about half the ulama that were in that majlis and more importantly because I dont want to attribute anything said by them in privacy publicly. My saying it myself is different to the ulama saying it in private.
[b][size=18]Ya ALLAH Madad.[/size][/b][size=9]
Ba'd Khuda Ma'bood na koi
Jiddee ikkoo zaaat,
o
Ba'd Muhammad Nabi na koi,
Jiddee uchhiyaan shaan.
After God there is none worthy of worship,
He who is One and Eternal.
And
After Muhammad there is no Prophet
He who has High Rank.
salallahu alayhi wa sallam.
Ya ALLAH Madad.[/size]
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Ya ayyu hannabiyyu...
I assume you read that in salaah?
Now by your definition that makes you a mushrik...
and last time you brought this up, I actually gave a full answer. Why do you keep going over lost ground?
And you do realise none of those phrases are phrases of worship?
and sticking an urdu poem does not make your view any less wrong.
I would like it if people stuck to english.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
so Med you are only beginning to understand why not go the whole nine yards and fully agree with the Shaykh.
personally and strangely your words do not perturb me i'm so glad and thankful to be a brelvi that i am constantly thanking Allah for this favour he has bestowed on me
whilst the Muslim ummah are involved in such petty squabbles amongst themselves the world is leaving us behind isolated and scorned
can you not at least see that hatred between brothers is destroying us from within, especially as only Allah knows who is right and who is wrong
Admin - keep statements in their context and the aqaa'id behind them.
And I aint going over anything - cant be bothered.
Laila - love and hate is for the sake of ALLAH. We are meant to love people for ALLAH'S sake and we are meant to hate for ALLAH'S sake - this is the millah of Sayyidina Ibraheem alayhis salaam and the seerah of Nabi Muhammad salallahu alayhi wa sallam.
Why dont I go the full 9 yards? ALLAH knows best.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Be clear. Which statements in context? Your two? My two?
Is your poem off topic? Are you highlighting istighaasah? or are you not comfortable with using Yaa?
I will drop it as soon as you do. You cannot make statements, and then not expect to be called up on it. Its simple really.
If you do not want to go over it, drop it. That's your prerogative, not mine.
Just came to me that your post may (I said may, not is. Dunno) have been in jest... which would make me look like a fool! No matter, I look good as a fool.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I have dropped it. You can carry on knawing at that bone if u want.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
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