[size=18]UN appeals for Palestinian funds[/size]The United Nations has made an unprecedented appeal for funds to help alleviate the deepening humanitarian crisis in the Palestinian territories.
The UN is asking donors for $385m (£205m) - an increase of 80% on the budget earmarked for 2006.
Officials say the problem is the result of sanctions against the new Hamas-led government, as well as Israeli restrictions on Palestinian movement.
The new Palestinian government has not paid its employees since March.
Around a million Palestinians, including policemen, teachers and doctors, are dependent upon the Palestinian Authority for their wages.
Some Palestinians have already begun selling their belongings to survive. Others are cutting back on what they eat.
[b]Temporary measure[/b]
The UN says it is launching the appeal because of desperate need.
It wants the extra money for food aid and medical supplies as well as for emergency employment programmes.
But David Shearer, the UN's humanitarian co-ordinator for the Palestinian territories, says this is only a stop-gap measure.
"To be honest, humanitarian assistance is not going to stop the slide of what is going on here.
"It's simply just going to soften the situation or help those people who are most vulnerable now, but inevitably, the economic situation and the problems with the services is going to continue and we can't do very much about it."
The UN says it is in the interest of the international community to help.
Officials fear that growing desperation among the Palestinians will lead to more violence.
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5035516.stm]BBC News[/url]
So let me get this right are the UN asking us (the public) for money. If yes then what is Israel doing with the money it collects on behalf of the Palestinian Authority?
I really feel for the Palestinians....let Allah be the judge.
well... they are 'witholding' the tax money they collect on 'behalf' of the palestinians.
The US has cut most of its funding. So has the EU. Noone is stepping up to the plate.
I thinki I got a letter from Muslim Aid the other day asking for emergency assistance. Should have put it on the site, but since I have cut back my presence, I totally forgot about it.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
There was a demonstration in Central London on the 20th May (Saturday) against the EU's sanction on the Palestinian people. Anyone reading the newspaper 'The Muslim Weekly' will know. Dr. Essam from Interpal [url]http://www.interpal.org/[/url] was there and emphasised the need to donate money to the Palestinian people.
To show support you can send a text message PAL to 84858 and donate £3.
I think [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/03/AR200602... Ross[/url] makes a fine counterpoint.
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Noone is asking anyone to give Hamas anything.
While Hamas may be the governing party of the Palestinian Authority, its not the PA.
Just like our taxes here do not go to NewLabour.
Its an obvious mistake.
That is a major point. Israel collects the taxes, but does not deliver them.
It drills water, but does not Allow the PA to drill for water.
It builds walls that separate farmers from their land.
Its got far less to do with Hamas than people make out.
Hamas is the bogeyman that others use to justify inaction.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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I wasn't aware they were linked to the 'Muslim Brotherhood'. Figures though.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
About time too!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
That is good. It is what Israel has been doing all along.
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What has been Israel doing all along...giving money to the palestinians?
Didn't they 'withhold' the money for some time....
Israel has been making arrangements to channel money to vital services while bypassing Hamas. Hamas has been arranging large amounts of aid from China and across the Middle East and smuggling money across the border (leading EU monitors to suggest they are being played for mugs and may have to quit), their foreign minister managed to "lose" £450,000 in a hotel room in Kuwait, both Hamas and Fatah have been spending an unprecedented amount on arms as well as military training which they have used against each other and against Israel, Hamas suggested the shortfall in paying Hamas employees could be made up by increasing taxes on Palestinians - all in all nothing suggests that they are presently serious when they speak of using aid for humanitarian purposes. Initially when Israel attempted to coordinate aid with Hamas they refused, insisting on managing the money themselves. So Israel has sought alternative routes for getting aid to Palestinians, as have Quartet members. And that is a good thing.
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I was expecting a simple answer by you saying yes Israel has been withholding money but now they are going to bypass the hamas government and help the palestinian people.
And the arms Hamas is spending on, isn't that essential....unlike Israel who get everything free from the US.
Also Hamas were insisting on aid from the international community, when did they refuse?
The way you're explaining it looks like you are against Hamas....
We were just discussing that, and I sure am against Hamas. Have you read their charter, above?
It [i]is[/i] the simple answer that Israel has been withholding money but now they are going to bypass the Hamas government and help the Palestinian people. I guess you found the following difficult:
No, it serves no essential purpose. It just antagonises everyone and alienates the Palestinians. Hamas' militant, doctrinal hatred of Israel is the reason money has been withheld. Israel does not get everything free from the US. It receives a similar assistance to Egypt and military guarantees. Most of Israel's arms are paid for by the state, and if Israel has America's strong support it is because Israel is under constant guerilla attack and has had to fend off massive Arab campaigns on several occasions. Moreover Hamas was evidently lying when they claimed their biggest needs were medical, and they have no right to spend earmarked income on arms.
I referred to Israel, not the international community. [url=http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,...
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Let me just say I don't fully support Hamas, but however I support Hamas more than I support Israel.
I was trying to say instead of writing a big paragraph it would have been easier if you just said what I said.
Israel is not getting everything free from the US but it is getting alot of aid from them. Israel is America's puppet, just like the UK is one.
Isn't Israel part of the international community....
You will not agee with me but you're entitled to your views.
Entitled to my views? Sure, thanks. Thank you for this conversation. Maybe we can continue it sometime. Most generally we seem to get on fine.
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I've got an exam tommorrow (actually today coz its after 12) so will be going in abit.
Let's not fall out because of this disagreement and as you rightly said, most generally we seem to get on fine
Yep, I was intending to curl up with my book ages ago.
Good luck tomorrow! (If it helps you could always say a zionist Jew kept you up late.)
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Israel has been [url=http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=b57b1873-425d-45f1... out[/url] with arms buying.
How many Israeli attacks have the Palestineans and other Arabs had to fend off?
True (for Mahmoud Abbas, not for Hamas), and I understand the total shipment is greater than the one Olmert alludes to in the article. It is because Hamas announced their own "security force" and Israel is trying to shore up Abbas. I would rather Israel stayed out of that but they have their assessment as to which is the greater threat, a balance of power in what is emerging as potential civil war, or a Hamas walkover, and they also have promises to keep.
The reason Olmert has played down the shipment is many Israelis across the spectrum don't like that, but Israel has offered Abbas guarantees for an effective security force and Olmert is good on his word. I suppose if the in-fighting continues Israel will support the side that is willing to be most cooperative, which would be Fatah, I acknowledge with great discomfort. Otherwise Israel after Olmert's realignment (disengaging from 90% of the West Bank) will find itself in serious war with a victorious Hamas and any outcome of such a war would be a disaster for all parties.
I do not want that after Israeli disengagement Hamas reengages and creates a full-scale war, which Israel would have to fight-to-win. Palestinians would risk decimation. At present Israeli operations are exercises in containment while everyone casts about for partners and solutions. I hope Hamas has the sense to see this and is not fooled by swaggering Iranians. Iran will be an entirely different operation. Israel is fond of Iranians generally, their president is an Iranian who misses greatly his country of old, and they will not hesitate to back up regime change given continuing muscle-flexing by the present leadership.
Israel has consistently stopped its incursions where they wanted to stop them, and has not attempted to take over or destroy any country, so the answer is none. Israel conducts anti-terrorist operations and then withdraws. There has never been an Israeli attempt to attack Palestinians at large. Strictly Israel was the first to attack in 1967, but that was a situation when the Arabs had already announced they were going to destroy Israel and amassed their respective forces on the borders. That is how Israel got it over with in six days, and why Ahmadinejad and co are so excited about long range WMD.
btw just to make clear my personal position, I do not support Olmert's description of the realignment as "final" because it still has to account for strategic necessities over and above the creation of a homogenous Palestine. There is no way that a disjointed West Bank can be considered permanently acceptable. Also, I do support his plan apart from that description, and Hamas' peace demands are cynical and based on the premise of eroding Israel. What Olmert is doing is pretty much exactly what he should, but he should not consider it final, and the Palestinians should start to enjoy their gains and recognise Israel. Incidents like the destruction of the Gaza greenhouses are especially miserable, because with that Hamas keeps the Palestinians in relative poverty. It is clear to me that if they will reconsider their intentions Hamas has every opportunity to create a peaceful settlement, and if they do that unequivocally (never mind an interim hudna) we can all relax. (ftr it was Jewish Americans who financed much of the purchasing of the Gaza greenhouses for Palestinians, and when there was a serious shortfall Bill Gates stumped up the rest! Good man!)
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