Noor or Bashar

Salaam,

Last week in university, i was sitting in a study area, doing my work, across from me was a group of girls, all of them were of Asian or Middle-Eastern backgrounds, a few wearing hijab I think, i didnt pay too much attention to them. They were speakin very loudly, and i shushed them a few times, but girls being girls, they payed no mind to me, so I gave up.

Im tryna do my work, but they jus too loud, i cant help but hear there conversation. Suddenly I start listening because I heard one of them say "....noor or bashar".

So I start to listen, call it evesdroppin if you will, but they were on max volume, askin for it. One of the girls says "I was always told the Prophet s.a.w is Noor", and I see a lotta head turn, I look up to see a lot of the girls giving her a shocked look.

They start to throw at her hadith after hadith, narrating verses from the quran, taking them completely out of context, to prove to this young woman, that the Prophet is Bashar, and one even says, "he's not alive anymore".

Anyway this continues for about 5 minutes, and thers atleast 15 of them, and now, they all believe The prophet is Bashar and they were never Noor.

One starts narrating hadith from Tirmidhi Shareef. to further prove her point, then she goes onto a different subject, So im thinking to myself, this girl's got the Tirmidhi Shareef, surely she must have the Shamail Tirmidhi, in which is clear proof, from the character of the Prophet s.a.w.

So this conversation goes on, and one of them says something which disgusted me completely, all this tym ive shushed em, n ive not joined the convo, but now im thinking, "its over now, im joining ya conversation, watch out world". I give them a disgusted look, a few of them see me, and one says "lets go now", I thought to myself "you lucky you got up, other wise it cudda gotten ugly".

Now, I like to think im very tolerable when people talk of aqeedah, and they have certain differences. I think this because in my family, we have all kinds of aqeedah's. Some cousins follow the scholors of Deoband, some Brelwi's, Im more conformed to the Aqeedah of ahl-e-sunnah and follow the scholors of Minhaj, some are Salafi, a few HT's etc etc. And, for the most we all get along, but in family gatherings, when this issue is raised, people are flinging around many insults, Shirk this biddah that etc etc.

So, Revival Family, lets not make this a bashing thread, lets talk about this like civilised muslims, tolerable muslims.

What, in your view, is the Prophet s.a.w. Noor (light) or Bashar (flesh like us). And whatever you beleive, when we talk about them should we pay respect and send durood upon them?

My personal Belief is, they were Noor, with an extent of bashar. That bashar was there to show us, that a human being can be perfect, and we are to follow their perfect example, and we are to fight our nafs and unleash the light within us. I beleive that the Holy Prophet s.a.w. is still amongst us, and if we draw close to them, they will watch over and protect us. They can do all this because they are close to Allah swt.