Why is a man allowed to have more than one wife in Islam?
Published by MuSlImAh786 on 8 February, 2006 - 16:00
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Trust me these 'freshie gyals' arent far behind
Some what can be Very demanding...come across bare ones
What do the women-folk think about changing their last names when they marry?
Well i personally wouldnt.....
I would prefer having my dads name.
I dont think its an asian thing :? ...dunno most of my married cousin sisters have changed their surname.
Yea I think it's more of a western tradition... i don't think there is any religious significance attached.
More and more women are opting not to these days
What in the west ?
Yea I see it a lot in the northern US - it's weird. When couples introduce themselves it always throws me off a step.
Another thing bout surnames....
I dont know, but in pakis- kids tend to have their fathers name as their surname...
I have my fathers name as a surname, and loads of people i know....its not the surname of my father thats passed down...
I wont like that idea with my own kids....the surname of my husband shall be the surname of my kids.
That's kinda weird... some people do the hyphen thing if they come from an important family on their mother's side, but the father's name should be the surname, since he is the head of the house.
maybe thats done in the western thing.....un heard of again in asians,
but hold on you were calling it weird and you just go the fathers name should be the surname :?
Or you mean the fathers surname should be the surname.
lol father's surname.
I know a few people who also have their husband's first name as their surname after marriage for e.g Miss A B marrys Mr X Y so she changes her name to Mrs A X and then the kids will also have their fathers first name!
Wheras me and my sisters have our Mothers first name as our surname! Its a bit wierd i know and i would have so preffered having my Fathers name as my surname
Yea....i havent come across that one, personally i dont like that idea.
lol..... havent come across that either, dont call it weird though....
some girls just end up having the surname bibi and begum, random stuff not bearing with the mothers or fathers name. Its funny thought wouldnt like that.
lol flower i'm incredibly confused - is that supposed to happen?
Islamically the wife does not have to adopt the name of her husband. and mostly they do not.
Thus when this is extended to chidren there is surname-mania. anything goes.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
^there's ur answer Don, a Muslim woman is not expected to adopt her husband's surname when she marries, she should keep her maiden name. but admin i dont get wot ur saying here? children are given the fathers name/surname as their own surname right?
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What's the reasoning behind it? Because she is still in her father's family or something?
Esteban is going nuts because he doesn't want Annette to have my surname, she wants to - already started remonogramming stuff...
I really don't see what the big deal is for the guy
Not always. Note the Akhtar, and Bibi, and a few others for girls. They are generic I think, or taken from mother.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
'esteban'?
yea islamically its just to show her lineage/family name, and is her right to keep, so she cannot be forced or pressured into changing it.
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akhtar is a mens name too is it not? but yea, i've noticed the 'bibis' and 'begums'... i guess if its generic then fair enough, but islamically we can't take our mother's maiden name anyway because a person should be attributed to the father.
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(two 'n's in Annette)
Yea... for some reason he is letting me call him by his first name now. Did I ever mention he's the most intimidating person i've ever met?
...the man's got more titles than God it seems.
Well it bugs me because she doesn't have a problem with it - and it's not like her mom runs around calling herself "Mrs Eliot" - she uses his name, so surely he's familiar with the concept :roll:
What's with lineage in Islam? I noticed there is a real careful attention to where you come from - I personally think it's pretty cool, on my top 5 favorite things about Islam, but is there some sort of religious reason for all this or is it something that worked into the culture?
Dunno.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
yea its major - there is a hadith in Sahih Muslim that says the Prophet
as to why it is so important, good question, off the top of my head i cant remember the answer, will find out and get back to u, but i agree, it is SO cool (i know my lineage way back by heart).
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Thanks...
Yikes! lol that's pretty emphatic - but you can see why, it's dishonoring your mother and father to pretend you are from someone else I suppose - thus breaking the commandment.
So Muhammad had a point.
lol how far can you go back? I can go real far back on the one side - but those damn dark ages keep getting in the way when I try to go back further than 640.
How are muslims supposed to preserve their family line? Are there coats of arms or family trees or is it just flat memorization?
Salaam All,
Woahhh what a response lol.
Just wanted to thank u all for clearing up this matter especially sis yashmaki..You have made it very clear the reason y men can have more than one wife?
surplus of women,
halal way was to marry them take them with them,
women left widowed due to war, or single women left without any male guardians.
also a lota divorced women, men seem to be more reluctant to marry them. Some societies due to stigma other societies coz she comes with baggage.
Muslimah x
I received nothing I wanted
I received everything I needed.
My Prayer has been answered.
Lol, its a long story about name confusion, my dad had three names, a 'home' name, an 'official' name and a 'nick' name (my dad HATED his official name)
but we didnt get any of them and instead got my mums first name because my mums name is one of those surname sounding names i.e begum, bibi, akhtar, kousar etc
what do you mean 'home' name same as 'nick' ?
I hate my offical name too.
Salaam
This issue is really fascinating….
I’ve never really thought about it.
Some websites says it’s totally haraam to take on your husband’s surname..
My mum never changed her surname…only cos coincidently her surname happened to be what my dad’s first name is…..even though she wanted to, dad said its best not to..
So...we've all taken our mum's surname :?
Personally, my surname has always annoyed me…it’s been the butt of many jokes in high school and even in the schools I teach today…
I’ve always thought that if my husbands surname is ever prettier then mine…then I’ll take his name, if not I’ll stick to my own.
I don’t know how strict Islam is about tis matter…and I wonder what it says about converts surnames?
I may ask someone about this.
Wasalaam
Like i said its a long story,
The name my dad was given when he was born was my dads 'home' name
But the name given on his birth certificate was different coz i think My grandad forget what they had named him at home and when He went to register he must have made a name on the spot
Then my uncle got my dads 'home' name as his 'official' name lol
But then at school there was lots of confusion coz my dad refused to be called by his 'official' name (and i honestly dont blame him) so my Dads freinds just made up a nick name which my Dad used throughout his entire life
lol......Very confusing, lol
Another Q. why do these asians add the name Mohammed before each name....but the second name stands the actual name.?
My grandma did that for my dad....then my dad did it for my brother...
its very confusing, coz my brother gets called Mohammed at times at college and sometimes his name lol.
All my dads brothers are called Mohammed something ..
Answered by Shaykh Amjad Rasheed
Translated by Sidi Hamza Karamali
Is it permissible for a woman to change her family name to her husband’s family name? Is it permissible for her to join between her own family name and her husband’s family name? (If her name is Aisha Qureshi and her husband’s name is Ahmad Rashid, then an example of the former would be for her to change her name to Aisha Rashid and an example of the latter would be for her to change her name to Aisha Qureshi-Rashid)
If, by changing her family name and ascribing herself to another family, she intends to absolve herself of and turn away from her lineal ascription to her own father from whose loins she came, and to make herself a daughter of that other family, then this is a major sin that is extremely forbidden. Its prohibition has been transmitted with rigorously authenticated (sahih) chains in Bukhari and Muslim and other collections of hadith. [The reason for its extreme prohibition] is that it comprises showing ungratefulness for one's blessings, disregard for the rights of inheritance, kinship, reason, and other things, in addition to the severance of kinship ties and parental disobedience that it entails, as Imam Nawawi has explained.
If, however, the matter is not like this, but is merely an ascription of the wife’s name to her husband’s that some people have become habituated to doing without her intending to absolve herself of her lineal ascription to her father and adopting someone else as a father, then what is immediately apparent from the words of Imam Nawawi and others is that it is not forbidden and does not fall under the prohibition.
Imam Nawawi in his commentary on Sahih Muslim (2.50), commenting on the hadith, “There is nothing from a man who calls himself by other than his father except unbelief (kufr),†says, “The meaning of, calls himself by other than his father is ascribes himself to him and takes him as his father.†This implies that the one who does not take him as a father has not called himself by other than his father.
The great scholar Ibn ‘Allan al-Siddiqi says in his commentary on Riyad al-Salihin (8.614) in “The Chapter of Forbidden Matters†while talking about the above hadith,
“This means that he also intends to negate his paternal lineage from himself, for otherwise, if he is commonly known through the lineage of his grandfather or of the one who adopted him, for example, and he then ascribes himself to that because of its common knowledge among people, not intending to negate it from his own lineage, then the warning mentioned below does not apply to him.â€
Amjad Rasheed
Amman, Jordan
(Translated by Hamza Karamali).
This is the same ruling in the Hanafi school, as understood from Imam Ayni’s commentary on Bukhari (Umdat al-Qari, 16.80) – Faraz Rabbani
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