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ftr, I did not know that people eat haleem in Muharram.
They can eat it whenever they want for all I care.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
There's two translations of Urdu lectures up at the moment.
One is on the status of Hadrat Fatima (ra)
[url=http://www.minhajsisters.com/home/articles/index.minhaj?id=82&e=11383104...
And another is on the secrets of Muhurrum
[url=http://www.minhajsisters.com/home/articles/index.minhaj?id=84&e=11383104...
Good luck with your speech...I'm sure the main sites will have some Muhurrum lectures up very soon.
And regarding Haleem...mum makes it about once a month.Only recently I found out that people usually eat it in Muhurrum.
Its a non issue.
JazakAllah sis
what are u doin it on, the karbala generally or the significance of Imam Hussain (ra) martyr. The lectures that u can listen to are "the message of karbala" and "events of karbala".
Or u can get this one "The significance of the event of Karbala" from here:
[url=http://tv.minhaj.org/en/index.minhaj?Minhaj_ID=Guest&pwde=1095842525&thm...
Also my sis is doin a speech and she said if you need any info you can ask her, she said she's more than happy to help, she's also doin a speech.
so people worship haleem? and consider it sawaab to munch it?
ur lame assumption is rejected
The issue is COMMON SENSE, alhamdulillah
welcome back lilsis may you prosper
Muharram is the time for quiet and contemplation. for reciting and listening to the story of Karbala for much crying. it is a sad month. a month for deep reflection - well this is how i feel
haleem i eat any time
just thinking about the word Karbala brings tears and a tightening of the chest and shortness of breath
i dont care what any one else thinks Shia or otherwise, i feel my heart bursting at the story of Karbala, well at even the thought, because i never survive through the first few paragraphs of any recital
Go Seemo
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
wots a recital? i mean i know wot a recital is, but in this context what is it, what do u recite...
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
First YOU bring proof from quran and sunnah that making haleem in muhurrum and listening to talks on muhurrum in muhurrum is a devilish act
otherwise fear ALLAH
lol.
You obviously are getting confused.
For something to be an act of virtue or ibaadah it must have proof from the Quran and Sunnah.
You cannot provide any evidence for this innovation and there are ahadeeth which make clear the end of innovation: viz hellfire.
Either provide your evidence, or keep your mouth shut please about topics which you dont have a clue what is going on.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
lol
Your obvioulsy losing it
Bollywood tunes have obvioulsy turned ur brains to mush
NO ONE here has said that eating haleem in muhurrum is "an act of virtue or ibaadah"
so stop chatting outta ur backside
btw why the hell u chatting about Muhurrum in the build up to Muhurrum
how typical of u-u break one of ur own lame rules and indulge in double standards :roll:
talking about muhurrum near muhurrum is BIDDAH according to u
so pls keep ur mouth shut
ok.
LilSis, I take it u dont know what the meaning of logic is? cos you obviously just blabbering on.
The celebration of Muharram as a month of mourning is innovation which many people indulge in. I am warning against this.
Continue with your accusations.
k, whatevaa.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
according to YOUR logic
myself and others here are people of innovation
dont deny it
u banged on about it enough times
and u have said
I dont consider it sunnah
so keep YOUR accusations to urself
next he's gonna say "oh I wasnt referring to YOU, I was chatting generally" :roll: :roll:
Define Sunnah.
The difenition is whatever the Prophet
did, said approved of, or did not disapprove of when carried out in his presence.
Next there is a further generalisation, where the same extends to the Sahaabah's actions sayings and approvals.
and please answer the question in the other topic where your words are very close to insulting the Prophet (saw).
While I had no idea about this haleem thing (first I heard of it was here. before then I thought it as siomething cooked when people wanted to mix foods. Something I do not like...), if it was carried out by a sahaabiyah, it is sunnah.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
recital in this case is retelling of the events of Karbala.
and the Shia have a totally different method of reciting as Med well knows.
Dear Med do you not know that i am quite aware of the Shia's way of Muharram,they wear black etc etc in this month and as you know do a whole lot of things which the Brelvi do not do
as a Muslim i feel deeply for the events that took place and think hearing them makes my love for the Prophet
and his blessed family stronger
Med......you knw how to twsit and exxegarate dont you??? :shock:
me aint heard of Haleeem, and with a name like that - i dont think i'll be touching it
and poeple are using this month in a good way, and u wanna tell em that theres no relevance in the events of Karbalah? :?
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
lol, dunno wot pakistani haleem is like, but the indian one sure is NICE! [size=7](and thats coming from someone who isnt even much of a food person!)[/size]
and guys, Med's point always gets sidelined due to his condescending, harsh tone - i've told him a million times but he just cant seem to drop it. :roll: which is not good coz the few times he actually has a point, noone listens!
in this case, i can kinda see where he's coming from: SOME people consider the eating of haleem in muharram as an act which will give them reward. if they see it this way, it IS bid'ah. if u are eating it just coz it tastes nice and hey, everyone's distributing it nowadays, then good for u.
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
i thikn it would be the latter
coz ive never heard of Muharaam and Haleem connection
i presume hes twisted the truth, n started up the Fatwa engine
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
it can be both. he hasnt twisted the truth, he's just relayed it in his usual messed up way. this sentence:
was from my own knowledge, not just based on Med's assumptions.
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
ah ryt, silly people then arent they!
but im yet to see it happen
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
have to AGREE wiv you there....i've only had indian haleem and its wicked.
what else take place at these mehfils..? or is that it ^^^
How much do the shias differ...
I was of the impression that any act that is allowed, if done with the right intention is eligible for reward?
If you eat, and you read bismillah, and you intention is for the food to nourish you to be able to carry out Islamic acts, it is rewarded. If you shop, but your intention is religious in some way, you will be rewarded?
Am I wrong?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
no doubt the martyrdom of Sayyidna Husain radhiallah anhu is one of the most tragic eposides of history ...but
its like some people attribute the sanctity of 'Ashura' to the martyrdom of sayyidna Hussain rahiallah anhu during the battle...yet we believe the sanctity of ashura cannot be ascribed to this event for the simple reason that the sanctity of ashura was established during the days of the Holy prophet mohammed sallalahu alahi wasallam much earlier than the birth of sayyidna Husain radhiallah anhu.
like med previously said we fast because it was the day Musa alahi salaam crossed the red sea and the firawn was drowned...
people are following the ways of the kaafirs, by taking this month to be a month of mourning and saddness.
erm... I do not think non-muslims care about the martyrdom of Imam Hussain, thus they do not see any sadness.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
kaafirs/non-muslims = christians, jews, hindus ,qadiyanis and shi'ites etc... by me.
ok we've had this before end of.
Med can you have a look at the above mentioned article please.
I am debating wether to keep it in my update of the site...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
"SOME" people "SOME" people "SOME" people :roll: :roll:
how pathetic
maybe if people stopped focusing on "SOME" people and actually focused on their own 101 sins they'd actually get somehwere in life
too bad extreme arrogance and self rigtouness stops people from focusing on their own sins :roll:
ur are right
ANY act done with right intention is rewarded in Islam
the people of biddah phobia would obvioulsy disagree
you referring to me HERE ? ^^^
where did your post go med?
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