Everyone knows the female version is, but I thought the male one generally had a lot of health benefits. I'm reading now that it doesn't actually though, it apparently is not nec recommended by docs and obviously when its done on children its not consensual. So unless there's an already there medical issue, is it necessary?
Thoughts? Evidence?
ive always heard it had lots of health benefits. can you post the new research that says it isnt recommended?
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
Dr. Muhammad 'Ali al-Baar (a member of the Royal College of Surgeons in the UK and a consultant to the Islamic Medicine department of the King Fahd Centre for Medical Research in the King Abdul Aziz University in Jeddah) mentions the health benefits of male circumcision in his book al-Khitaan and so it does seem to be recommended:
I really don't want to go into detail, but you can scroll down and read further into each of the subheadings above, on this website link:
http://www.missionislam.com/health/circumcisionislam.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100831092209AATVvNN
Seems to be the predominant opinion nowadays. Look it up
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Not much point linking to an Islamic site when they're obv going to be biased since Muslim men have to be circ.
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
That slipped out of my mind..
If research has been carried out thoroughly and through the studies, conclusions have been made based on pure evidence, then that it something to be considered.
I know we don't all live in Africa, but i did find this too:
Two years ago, a consortium of experts convened by the World Health Organization and UNAIDS (the United Nations' HIV program) announced that circumcision should indeed 'be part of a comprehensive HIV prevention package'. Three separate, meticulous medical trials in Kenya, Uganda, and South Africa, involving more than 10,000 men, had proved that circumcision could reduce the risk of female-to-male HIV infection by approximately 60 percent. This discovery is one that, over the next two decades, could save three million lives in Africa alone.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29777922/ns/health-mens_health/t/should-all-males-be-circumcised/#.UA_h7WGe4SU
There was one WHO trial (dunno if it was one of the ones mentioned above) that was cut short due to the fact that circumcision had such a startling effect on reducing chances of STDs that it would have been cruel not to offer circumcision to all.
i heard that from a Muslim source though, as far as I remember.
Then again, that ruling in Germany has been overturned, so its a bit of a moot point; circumcision is compulsory and if you wait til the kid is older, its more likely to cause pain.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
It's not immoral, it's a Sunnah that boys have to do unless there's an extenuating circumstance. There's evidence out there Islamic and non Islamic about its benefits.
as for being non consensual, well do newborns give consent when they have their first vaccinations, mine didn't sign on the dotted line, I did. will they give consent for school trips no I will. Consent for dental treatment no that's a parents right. Parents decide what is right or wrong for their minor child until they reach legal maturity, whether they're Muslim or not, so this nonsense about consent is laughable.
this is just another anti Muslim piece of legislation, anti Muslim feeling is very strong across Europe if you haven't noticed. I heard all about this pathetic debate a few months back, I just switched the radio off promptly.
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AFAIK, more than one - they have all ended this way.
As for whether it is cruel, the debate seems to come down to can a parent make a choice for a child? and the answer is that parents make all sorts of choices for their children, from their diets, to their friends, to their education, to their clothing, to where they live and more.
The dissenting voice against circumcision I have read has always boiled down to "how dare the parent decide for the child", but that is the job of the parent, to decide what is best for the child.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Well surely it is less painful if done to a baby?
Also, don't diseases love hiding under the foreskin? Plus it stops urine from being caught in the foreskin.
The more intersting question is: Why do we have a foreskin, if we're meant to get rid of it?
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From an islamic perspective regarding the WHO study that one person has mentioned above doesn't quite make sense? to assume that the child might have STDs, to assume that they will have to do certain things to get STDs is wrong?
Why do we have a foreskin, if it is then to be removed? When was that law given to men? Good question.I'd like to know the answer to that too.
The WHO study didn't assume that the person would sleep around, even marital sex has a chance (reduced by male circumcision) of passing on STDs.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
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